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Is it possible to lose your salvation, become unsaved?

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No, the Holy Spirit never leaves you and Salvation is yours. You can harden your heart and not listen to the Father and miss out on the blessings intended for you during this lifetime. And it's hard to store up your treasure in heaven if your not doing the work of the Father here.

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I agree lala
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I have a moral question for you. If you expect to go to Heaven for your actions, are you really good? Are you not simply being selfish? If you are truly good, then it should not matter if Heaven, Hell, or neither exist nor to which you are going. Should you not still do what you believe to be the right thing? If that statement is so, then those who believe they are dong the right thing ,but do not follow your scripture, are they not just as good as those who follow your scripture, if not better? I am plainly saying that does motive not determine what is good and bad, for if actions count and motive doesn't, then don't people taught in which ever scripture, if any, turns out to be correct have an unfair advantage over those who were taught otherwise, therefore making the god or gods unfair and unjust? Think about it for a minute.
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No, we all have the exact same set of facts laid out in front of us in the bible and the choice to choose. When I do something that is " good" or helpful for someone one I can honestly say that it was for them and that God should get all the credit because there was a time in my life when I would do something if I had the time or if it fit into what I was doing. Now I gave no problem letting other people know that I can do something that might be difficult or that it interrupts my plans but with the help of God I can do what needs doing.
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Yes, but you were taught to believe in the bible. Had you been raised Muslim you would believe in the Quran just as throughly. If you were raised Hindi, you would abide the Hindu scriptures the same. If you were raised Jewish you would cling to the Torah's teachings as you now cling to the Bible. Do you not see where I am going with this? You are Christian because you were brainwashed from a young age to be so. You do not question the bible's accuracy because it is so against your upbringing that it could be inaccurate. Do you not realize that everyone believes the same of their own religion and are just as likely to become Christian as you are of becoming another religion? If you are correct in your belief, everyone who was raised differently would be at a disadvantage as they were instructed to believe otherwise. It is one thing to believe a religion, it is another to fail to realize that all your complete certainties regarding your beliefs also exist in all other religions. If that were not so, yours would be the only religion in existence, which it is not. You won't go against your scripture, how can you possibly expect others to do so?
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Storing up our treasures in Heaven happens simply as we are obedient to God's Word and the promptings of His Holy Spirit in our heart. It may look like a good work that we have done but truly it is an action that comes from His Love residing in our heart and our willingness to follow that. If we just try to earn our way to Heaven by good deeds simply it can't be done. Not saying that is what the other comment was meaning, I just thought to bring that out for mention. But to the original person who asked the question, Please don't ever let yourself be afraid of losing your salvation. The Lord loves us and sees our heart and is faithful to hear our cry. We can reach Him in prayer and as we grow in the knowledge of His Word as we grow it's a wonderful experience as well as when we first come and throughout. He is Faithful!
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I was not brainwashed because I made my decision of faith as an adult after being scared to death as a child and teen by what the church was trying to sell : FEAR. Now I know it's all about a relationship with Jesus and that the reason there are people risking their lives daily as missionaries to spread God's word because of Satan trying to confuse people with other religions.
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Agreed. If we are faithful to His promptings and obedient in service we are doing His work as a result of the Fruits of the Spirit which result in said treasure and blessings in this life.
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Lala you are right on target. If one is only motivated to do good to impress God without believing Him for all things then they may lose out on the benefits of God. When I do for others it answers a need within me to always be available to help those who couldn't help themselves without thought of a pat on my back or worldly compensation. It is in obedience that I answer that call and love for the helpless. I always wanted to be like MotherTheresa as a young catholic I thought she
was the coolest person that lived.!
So that's who I modeled my life after for real. I gave up my family, my inheritance and my retirement funds to help the homeless! after my few years as a catholic I became an atheist got lost in the world and came back and tried several different denominations now i am a Christian, a Christ follower,
Medelene forgive me if I misspelled your name I also agree with you I just want to add this, We are going to be surprised who gets to heaven. There is good in all religions one should never believe one is more superior then the other. Remember, this is my belief, just like there is so many variations of man and race, God has the same variety of religions. As long as certain facts remain the central concept and ppl can be the best that they can be, kind, loving, and obedient I believe would be our ticket in the door of Heaven although the road leading us there is narrow. Just a thought, we believe there are no mistakes with God, if God didn't want us to be born, we would not be here. That's how I got rid of racism. My own ppl have treated me worst than any non black in fact I was educated by whites and loved and nurtured to do my best in college on the stage and in Church . When I came to my ppl they have rejected me and my truth. And I feel more of an outcast amongst my own. Other cultures and other religions have welcomed me so again I say we are going to be surprised who gets to Heaven!!!
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You're saying despite knowing God doesn't exist, I'm going to end up in Heaven anyway, just because of a little youthful exuberance?
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That's one of the big unknowns, isn't it ? I would have to wonder if willful and slanderous denial of God and His Spirit dwelling in you just might be the thing to do it. I'm not God and still have hope that people will come to see the error of their ways before its to late.
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You don't get it do you. Everyone else would say the same exact thing. The brainwashing is the belief. If you are instructed in one belief until age seven, it is highly improbable that you will ever give up that belief. If you believe that God tells you what to do and that you don't have the ability to decide what is right and wrong, then isn't Heaven a way to reward mindless creatures who are not intelligent enough to make their own judgement calls and simply do what they are told blindly?
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The point is I don't make the decisions, God does. And you guys are so sure everyone is brainwashed... Well here's something,I became a believer as an adult and so do a lot of other people. I don't mind not having all the answers. Athiests have to have a perfect answer for everything and sometimes God has decided that we don't get to know everything.
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i think everyone has there "UnGodly" moments at times. nobody is perfect. but i dont think you have to get baptized again every time you do something bad. Go to God yourself and repent

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Exactly. You can only be baptised once.
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Yes it is called Backsliding

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Only if you truly turn your back in GOD.

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yes, but that's what repentance is all about.

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Absolutely, positively not. Once you you have received Jesus as your personal savior, He will never 'leave you or forsake you'.

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It's true. He never leaves us but we can turn our back on Him. There's a difference. But He is ALWAYS faithful and just to forgive and when we come to Him according to the Bible scriptures, He will not cast us out. It also says that it's not His Will that Any should perish but that All should have everlasting life. His Spirit lives inside a born again believer and it is by His Spirit that we learn, grow and are able to. He is a forgiving God when we first come to know Him and He is faithful to forgive us when we mess up and are truly sorry even after we have had our salvation experience. But you should always compare any thing you are told to what the Bible says as well because It is His Word that is what you have to hold on to and learn and grow with although He does use people it has to be in agreement with what the Bible says as well. Just had to mention that.
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After spending the first 19 years of my life I was at a low point and felt my faith was faltering. I cried myself to sleep many nights asking Jesus to guide me. I said I am placing myself in his hands and do with me whatever he felt was right. Within a couple of weeks I learned about the Baha'i Faith and became a Baha'i within a couple of months as the teachings answered every question of faith I had. I remained an active and happy Baha'i for the next 15 years. So I am living proof that accepting Jesus as your savior is not a one-way door.

(Of course, someone will chime in as they always do that I wasn't REALLY saved to begin with. I always wonder how they think they can know me better than me, and know what I felt better than me.)
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HE will never leave YOU, but YOU can leave HIM!!
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magdalene

When we sin and are truly repentant and ask God's forgiveness, He is faithful to forgive and cleanse us. We may not "feel" any different, but if we turn away from that sin(and He will help us) we can have know that we are once again in His Will.

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Shouldn't you apologize to the person? If you hit someone and then apologize to God, have you really corrected your actions? Don't you owe the person rather than/as well as an apology? You didn't hit God in this situation, did you?
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Yes, of course you should. You would be asking God for forgiveness of your sin, but you should always ask forgiveness of the people you wrong as well.
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I never saw where the person mentioned hitting someone. But if you hit or wrong someone I agree that we should go to them and make it right too. Not because I say so, of course, but because the Bible does.
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And shouldn't the apology--as well as any possible material compensation--to the wronged person be required first before God would forgive?
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I do agree that we have to make things right with the person if we wronged a person.
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Mariaunderwood, it was a hypothetical, hence the word "if".
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Some say yes some say no. Baptist say yes methodist say no. The bible says what? Once you have been baptised you have been forgiven if sins. You cant be unbaptised. Your measure of salvation will depend how i live after that. In a short form. I dont want to type a whole sermon. Ask.com dont have enough space lol

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I am a Baptist, we do not believe you can lose your salvation.
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Sourhern or northern lol
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Baptists do not believe a person can loose their salvation! Its once saved ALWAYS saved!!!
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We also do not mix up baptism with salvation. Getting baptised is an act of obedience that comes AFTER being savef.
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Southern, Amen and Amen!!
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It is not. Jesus clearly showed that to receive the holy spirit he had to baptised firstf. Peter explained to the jews that they needed to be baptised for forgiveness of their sin after they crucified the Christ and they would receive the holy spirit. Read for yourself
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I agree with you auxarcs that baptism is an act of obedience to God after we have repented and received God's Salvation. The thief on the cross didn't even have the opportunity to be baptized by water and went to Heaven because of His Repented heart. Jesus said He would see this man in Paradise.We are to be baptized though. Jesus Himself was. Matthew 3:11 speaks of water baptism.

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Jesus was not dead yet when the theif on the cross was told this. The new covenant did not start until after he gave up his ghost. Where by the way does it say the theif had mever been baptised? Somehow in my ministering as a youth pastor amd prison minister i missed that in the old and new covenant. Its stand silent so whose to say. Just like bible stands silent as to gambling.
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Hmm, that's a tough question. I don't believe so. Our God is loving and forgiving and I don't believe he'll ever truly forsake us. However, you are CLEARLY better versed in the bible then I am.

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It depends on which belief you hold. Some believe in predestination, when whether or not you are saved was determined before you were born. If you mean that your actions and beliefs determine whether or not you are saved, then I would have to point out that what makes you think you had it in the first place? "No one is a villain in their own eyes." However, your answer is yes. Depending on your beliefs, it can be easily achieved or difficult to achieve.

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No I was saved from
Drowning in an icy pond and I can't become unsaved -

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You can of someone pushes you back in or messes with space and time by going back in time and preventing you from being saved either directly or indirectly through the "butterfly effect".
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Actually I did not think of that but I guess you are right
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Yes, we can lose salvation through mortal sin. Mortal sin destroys the life of God's grace in our souls which without we cannot inherit the Kingdom. Mortal sin lands one in danger of hell. Yet, some people still say that you cannot lose salvation. This is a wrong set of choices. The idea of "once saved, always saved" was first proposed by John Calvin during the Protestant Reformation in the 16th Century. Among many evangelical and fundamentalist Christians today, this belief is known as the doctrine of "eternal security." Prior to Calvin, all Christians believed that one was free to walk away from God though mortal sin. The Scriptures give several examples of people falling away from the faith. Here are some of the clearest passages: (My answer continues in the comments)

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1. In John 15, Jesus says that He is the vine, and we are the branches. "If you keep my commandments, you will remain in my love" (15:10). However, four verses earlier, He says, "Anyone who does not remain in me will be thrown out like a branch and wither; people will gather them and throw them into a fire and they will be burned" (15:6). This does not sound like "once saved, always saved," since Jesus speaks of some people being taken off the vine if they do not keep His commandments.
2. John continues this theme in his first letter, when he says, "there is such a thing as deadly sin... all wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that is not deadly" (1 Jn 5:16-17). If the sin is "deadly" (that is, mortal), then this clearly indicates that we may choose to "kill ourselves" spiritually and, if we persist in this sin, die in a state of separation from God.
3. In his letter to the Romans, St. Paul speaks about the "obedience of faith" (Rom 1:5, 16:36). He also says in his letter to the Galatians that some have been "separated from Christ," and have "fallen from grace" (Gal 5:4).
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4. St. Paul advises the Philippians to work out their salvation in "fear and trembling" (Phil 2:12). If losing salvation was a "done deal" there would be no reason to write this - instead, St. Paul might have written something like, "Congrats, Philippians on getting saved. I'm happy for you and look forward to seeing you all in heaven."
5. Now it seems clear that you can't "fall from grace" unless you were once in grace, and you can't be separated from Jesus, unless you were once united to Him. St. Paul stresses this reality several times, exhorting the Corinthians to avoid immortality, telling the Christian community there that fornicators, drunkards, etc. will not enter the kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:9-10). (Remember, St. Paul wrote his letters to believers.)
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6. St. Paul is perhaps most blunt in Romans 11:22, when he says, "See then, the kindness and severity of God; severity towards those who fell, but God's kindness to you, provided you remain in His kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off." Paul even extends this same warning to himself, when he says that we should guard against overconfidence (1 Cor 9:27-10:12).

All of these warnings should not lead us to fear, since God is always faithful and will always help us to avoid sin. Our job is to continually say "yes" to Him by striving always to do His will. This involves being obedient to His Church and its teachings, and by listening to Jesus as He leads us in our prayers.

Hope this helps! - ManOfKnowledge
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I notice you didn't have a thumbs up to show good answer but after this comment is done, you will have one. I agree with scripture also and that it what you gave. Thumbs up!
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No. Once you belong to God/Christ He will never let you go.

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What about those of us who have determined through scientific study that religion is a little silly? Did He let us go? I think you mean, as long as one keeps pretending they want to believe, it will seem real to them.
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God created all things including 'science' so really youre the sillies for using His creation to claim His creation is silly. Foolish is another word that comes to mind but He provided free will for a reason. Its your right to choose Not Him. Just keep that in mind when the Day comes.
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Actually, you are being ridiculous. You don't understand the argument. You are supporting God with God. It is one thing to believe. It is another to be ignorant of the beliefs of others. You start with the assumption that God created everything. The opposing argument would be that God did NOT create science. You cannot say He did as an argument against it because that is your refusal to accept the other argument as valid. The other argument is better because it doesn't go around in the endless loop. Your whole support is God exists. You are supporting that God exists. You can believe all you want, just understand that it is not a convincing argument if you look at what you are really saying.
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I wasnt posing an argument with alternatives. I accept and present only what is absolute Truth. To do otherwise would be both ridiculous and foolish. God created EVERYTHING including science. Humans can have as many alternative ideas as they wish but there is only one Truth.
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And you are correct. I accept no other view as valid. God IS. He IS creator of ALL things.
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If we sin we can lose fellowship with God til we repent. Yet, we never lose our salvation. However, this does not give us license to sin.

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Aughghgh! Cognitive disconnect!!!
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Nope! Can be punished and loose rewards, but not "unsaved"

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Let's assume religion and spirituality is a consequence of sufficient brain power to contemplate one's eventual death. If one never actually had this "salvation" (where one would be allowed by the Super Fantastic Sky God to enter a blissful eternity of never again experiencing pain or unhappiness) in the first place, does one "lose" it when it comes not to pass?

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Not if predestination is true.

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No way!

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Yes, it most certainly is. Example: A person was recently saved. They loved the Lord and everything. Years later they are now a notorious murderer, horrible thief, and have no problem with what they are doing. They hate God and rebuke him all the time. Do you think they are going to heaven? Nope!!
"Nothing can pluck us out of the hand of God" That doesn't say that WE can't remove ourselves, though!!!"

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Don't get me wrong, you don't go to heaven because of good works you've done or anything, but in my example, that person obviously does not have Jesus as their savior. That is how we get to heaven: by accepting Jesus died for us on the cross. Knowing that we can not get to heaven any other way because we are all just as bad as Hiter, even. If Hitler was a christian before he did all that chaos, do you think he would still be going to Heaven? For many people he is the definition of Evil!!! Think about it.
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Im sorry i missed this question 4 months ago, But i would like to add my two cents any way. I know many people who believe once saved always saved,Kinda like they are entitled to salvation. However the bible doesnt teach that, I read the king james bible, where it says faith with out works gain you nothing just as works with out faith gain you nothing, you always have to work on being a Christain, God also says if you turn your back on him he will turn his back on you. Most can be saved lest those who blasphem against God, thats the one unforgiveable sin, aoso think of it like this if a sinner say a murder or child molester or rapist or killer of children get saved and they Change their ways, in the begining they truly serve God and are repentant of their sins. Then maybe 10 or 20 years later they fall back into their old ways and die with out ever serving God again or asking for forgivness, Should they be allowed to enter heaven?. To me the answer would be no, think of this also, there are some ex Christains who actually turn to atheitism and stop serving God this would be turning your back on God, and remember what he said about you turning your back on him.

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12 The disciple Jude wanted to write to early Christians about “the salvation [they held] in common.” However, the prevailing bad moral climate obliged him to counsel his brothers to “put up a hard fight for the faith.” Yes, to gain salvation it is not enough to have faith, to stick to the true Christian faith, and to obey when everything is going along smoothly. Our devotion to Jehovah must be strong enough to help us resist temptations and immoral influences. Yet, sexual excesses and perversions, disrespect for authority, divisions, and doubts were taking a toll on the spirit of the first-century congregation. To help them combat such tendencies, Jude urged fellow Christians to keep clearly in mind their objective: “Beloved ones, by building up yourselves on your most holy faith, and praying with holy spirit, keep yourselves in God’s love, while you are waiting for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ with everlasting life in view.” (Jude 3, 4, 8, 19-21) The hope of gaining salvation could strengthen them in their fight to remain morally clean.

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Yes definately because if you aren't doing what he wants you to, you cannot go to Heaven

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