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Do you think that mayor Bloomberg is overstepping his bounds by getting "Big gulp" sodas banned?

I do, and I find such a "crusade" a pathetic waste of time, and I'm thinking I thought this type of lunacy was only in San Francisco.

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Here's a clue that it is politically motivated and not because of obesity. Bloomberg claims he is doing this because of obesity concerns. Yet the ban does not affect sugared drinks if they have sufficient dairy content. But dairy products actually have more calories due to fat than drinks that only have sugar. So Bloomberg claiming he's doing it to combat obesity is an obvious lie. So this is obviously politically motivated or a power grab.
Had this been a federal ban I would object to it as a violation of the Constitution. However, this is purely a state issue and I am not familiar enough with the NY State Constitution to know if the NYC ban is a violation of the NY state constitution. If it is not, then the people of NYC have only themselves to blame for sleeping on the job while politician continue to encroach on every aspect of their lives.

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Beautiful
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Thank you for your well put response.
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He may be trying to do what the First Lady is.

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I don't understand your response. What is the First Lady doing?
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Perfectly understandable and correct!
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No because she does not have the power to pass laws. Bloomberg does. There is nothing wrong with govt informing us of health risks or Mrs Obama promoting healthy eating. It is tyranny when govt insists that we do so.
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True but Bloomberg may have gotten some inspiration from her?
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I heard about this through the news. My first thought was "unfortunate", but actually it's appalling. A law put into place that restricts how much soda a person can buy through the use of businesses not being able to sell it... absolutely ridiculous. I don't know what more to say about it quite honestly... biggest bunch of malarkey

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I agree. I was just seeing if I get any people who thinks Mayor Bloomberg is some sort of "hero" for engaging in this kind of behavior.
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I can't say b/c I don't know the guy, but if that is what he is spending his time on.... I'm certainly glad that he's not in this part of the country. Yes, obesity is a huge problem, but adding another prohibition is not going to solve anything. Anada below said "these high calorie, no nutrition items kill people"... wrong... lazy people who choose to ingest these items and not exercise enough to counteract these items kill themselves. It's not my responsibility to ensure that they stay trim.
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Exactly. It is not our responsibility to keep people thin and healthy. This is a reason govt should not be supplying our health care. You will start to see these kinds of laws being passed to the point of living like the book 1984.
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Nwarguy hit the nail on the head. Great minds think alike, right?
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@priest... And like you said, you (as well as I) rarely agree with begred... but when we do, it's rather nice, epecially on a topic like this that concerns our future liberties.
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.no. it is along the same lines as making illegal pot, speeding, and trespassing into hazardous areas. it's a public health issue. these high calorie, no nutrition items kill people.

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In that case, all items with a certain fat % should be outlawed too. Where is the cutoff point with laws like these?
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I gave you green, mainly for taking the time to respond to this question. Unfortunately Nwarguy stole my thunder by asking the question he did in his comment to your response.
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people only need ~2,000 calories a day. those calories need to have nutrients in them. so that is your starting point for what is reasonable. you then look at people with dietary realated illness, heart disease, cancer, obesity, diabetes, etc, and you examine what those people are eating and are not eating. the result has been the consuption of the high calorie, high sodium, low nutrition items such as the big gulp and the absence of fresh, whole foods, such as an apple. so the idea is to eliminate the bad stuff and make more available the good stuff. such as making it illegal the selling of big gulps and the bringing fresh foods into food deserts through farmers markets.
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No, it's private heath issue
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It is not your business what people eat. You sound like you want to be a dictator or live under one.
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

First paragraph of the us constiatution. freedom does not meen 'i do what ever i want and damn the consequences'. We live in a society, we live side by side sharing space and resources. we have to think how our actions affect others. we told the government to make sure we all play nice with each other (domestic tanquility) and to make sure the people stay well (general welfare). and sometimes that means there will be laws restricting you. in this case, that means the government will do its job to stop pain and suffering among the people by eliminating that which is hurting us, the aweful 'foods' that we eat. and it's not a private health issue, you are not an island unto yourself. your bad health and death hurts us all.
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To bad. Humanity has to die out sometime soon. Or else the world will die first. No offence, but facts are facts. We are killing this planet, and that can't continue. How is it right to force someone to be healthy when they don't want to be? How about if they force you to exercise for hours a day? Their right to force people to be healthy is non-existent. How about they stop meddling with healthcare? Then they won't care anymore.
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It's like laws against suicide. It's moronic. If someone wants to die, who are they to tell them no? It's their life. Death doesn't hurt anyone besides the one who died until someone gets mopey over it. I had two relatives die in three months. I barely even cried, only on the first of two. Death is a cold, hard fact that the soft people in most of the world cannot accept. Unlike you people, I learned not getting caught up on it migitates any negative side effects from it. It's called moving on. Learn how to move on. Humanity will die out sooner or later. Hopefully before we destroy the Earth. And I do have a heart (no comments about me being heartless, I just see now reason to worry when people die. I can't do anything for them), so don't say I'm heartless.
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The preamble states the purpose for writing the Constitution but it does not actually provide any authority to the federal government. The preamble does not state that the constitution was written so that the government could promote the general welfare. The right granted the government are few and innumerated. The reamble does not provide unrestricted license for the government to do anything it feels promotes the general welfare.
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Amanda, according to you we should outlaw death since apparently the death of any individual is harmful to all society and the government has to protect us from harming society.
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No. nobody needs a soda that big.

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I gave you green as well, because I actually agree with you, that nobody needs a soda that big especially in light of the fact that many times I see plastic containers from fast food restaurants and other places tossed in the trash with the sodas not fully consumed. But that actually makes my point. Because if people are buying "Giant gulp" sodas and not actually drinking all of them, isn't this crusade of Bloombergs an act of bufoonery? Or a pathetic attempt at garnering "merit badges"?
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It is the act of a tyrant. It is not his or the governments job or right to make us healthy. We are free to pursue whatever makes us happy. There are already way too many laws that is not govt business. For every law passed is a freedom lost.
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Nobody needs a 2 oz soda. What does that have to do with anything? What give one man the right to decide what anyone else does or doesn't need?
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To AgNuke: I was just saying that in my opinion nobody NEEDS a "Massive Gulp" beverage especially because I see these large plastic containers in the trash and even littering public places and many times it appears someone may have taken a sip or two and that is it. I am in NO WAY about to dictate to someone that they may not purchase such an item and even waste their money by only taking two sips and leaving it on the table or in the theatre or God forbid a park bench somewhere. We DO have a right to express opinions still, somewhat, even though that right is slowly getting swallowed up by the Nanny State as well.
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Jeb, I appreciate what you just said an I understand it is an opinion. Thank you for having one. but I see you also Have no desire to dictate others live based on those opinions. I'm just pronouncing my opinion because I do feel the Mayor is potentially overstepping. I am doing so by demonstrating the arbitrariness of the ban. If soda is so bad, why limited to big gulps and such.
I agree with you, we should not legislate based on opinion.
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To AgNuke: We are basically on the same page here, just reading from different paragraphs.
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i agree w/mr bloomberg......kids need big gulps like i need another hole

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I gave you green mainly for taking the time to respond to my question. However read my comment to Legogeek99 for another look at the matter.
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Whether you agree or not, it is not yours or Bloomberg's business what free people do or drink.
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Then don't let your kids buy them. This restriction is not just against kids so your point is meaningless
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i think it is unfair because either way you could order two drinks that could equal a size of a gulp. Its pointless and what if someone used the gulp to split it with people. Its like trying to control us and how much we drink.

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I agree. Thank you for your response.
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Yes they are and stupid Americans are allowing it. I say stupid because if these laws continue to be passed you will soon find we will have lost all of our God given rights to a tyrannical government. Geeze I wish people would wake up. It gets tiring fighting this fight alone. Read our Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights and the Constitution and refresh your memory on what a free country consists of before we lose it forever. Please!
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Wow. I agree with Bigred. That's rare.
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Except for the "God given" thing.
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Well inalienable rights do mean God given or born with.
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I think the mayor oversteps his bounds just by being in office on a daily basis. I hope voters will help him to step right out of office at the next possible time.

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I don't know enough about Mayor Bloomberg to determine whether or not he should be voted out, and since I don't live in New York, I'm not sure I even care all that much. It's just that when I first read about this story, I'm thinking to myself: "Is this guy doing this just to get attention? Is there not more pressing concerns going on in NY City?" If not perhaps you are right, the mayor of New York is an obsolete position.
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Freedom is such an easy word to say yet most people in America have no concept what it entails. Personal responsibility. We have inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Government gets its rights from us. It's job is to protect our rights. A business has the right to sell any size drink it wants as long as it is a legal drink and the consumer has the right to buy that drink regardless how fat it makes him or her. The problem lies with a government giving us an unconstitutional right to healthcare (the word health can not be found in our founding documents.). By doing this they then think they have the right to tell us what we must do to stay healthy since they are paying for it. Next thing you know we will have mandatory exercise. Government is force at the end of a gun. We must never let them decide for us what makes us happy. We the people are responsible for our own life's. These actions by Bloomberg are tyranny, soft tyranny now but if allowed to continue we will be living in a country that is exactly what our founding fathers tried to prevent. Stand up and take responsibility for our freedoms. Too many have died to give us this wonderful free country. Don't slowly let these freedoms be lost. Say NO to all laws that take away the freedoms we rightly have.

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Interesting answer. Many people fear a despotic government, and rightly so. I sometimes think that the form of despotism in the future will not be harsh or violent like despotic govts. of times past, but one that literally softens us up to the point where we no longer have the desire to wipe our own butts, because the big Nanny State will be there to change our diapers for us.
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I bet the Germans, Chinese, and Russians thought the same as you. Socialism is Communism without the killings. But they too shall come.
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I applaud you bigred. I completely agree with you. Which is quite rare.
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To Bigred50: The killings may indeed come, but I have a hunch that IF they do, they will take one of two forms: 1)The people being led to the slaughter will literally have no clue what is happening to them; the whole scene in the future will probably be done as quietly, efficiently, and more "gently" making the Nazi concentration camps look like drunken orgies by comparison and/or 2. Ostracism will play such a huge role that one will be forced to "adapt(change) or die"
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On his answer, not that comment above mine.
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Don't you wonder why the Jews literally walked into those trains by the thousands with only a few Natzi's forcing them.? Or why if they knew they were going to die in the showers why didn't they fight to the death? It is amazing to me how masses of people are like sheep and don't fight for their rights to the bitter end. America has become sheep and are allowing our govt to take our rights little by little until we wake up one day and are being slaughtered by the millions. It's coming. Maybe not in my lifetime but my grand kids will surely witness this unless we the people put a stop to it now.
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I don't know this for a fact, but I have a hunch a number of those folks loaded onto those boxcars DID know what was happening. Why didn't they fight? Some did I'm sure, but the Nazis being as efficient as they were, swept any "mess" under the carpet very quickly. I'm sure too, that they took out any potential "ring leaders" waaay before loading folks onto to those boxcars so in fact all that was left were the "lambs" being led to the slaughter. Keep in mind it is the intellectuals and other "aberrant" thinkers and personalities they took out first. I don't care how tough one thinks he or she is, but I suspect when they know the inevitable is barrelling down on them, many WILL go "gentle" into that "good night". Only VERY FEW will drop their pants, put a smile on their face and say "kiss my a--" to their murderers or tormentors as they take their last breath(s)
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He is far overstepping it. I view food bans as just plain tyrannical. If I want to eat myself to an early grave, it's my right to do so. I can eat what I want. It's a simple thing that gets overlooked because of the obesity "epidemic". It's their choice to eat the way they do. We who aren't obese shouldn't be punished because of them. No offence meant to obese people. The government is just using them to have more power over us. I dislike the Nanny State mentality that is on display with that. How about just putting healthy food in schools?

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Thank you too for your response. It is interesting too that when I look around, I do in fact see obese people, but by no means would I call it an "epidemic" (Unless the extremely obese are literally stuck in their domiciles, in which case they are NOT in movie theatres drinking "Big Gulp" bevrages.) I'm 5'11" and weigh 200lbs. I think I look faily decent, but according to some chart I read, I should be weighing only 180lbs! I hardly consider myself obese.
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I wouldn't be against the govt putting out informational ads explaining how obesity is bad and how to overcome it but you are correct. This is tyranny.
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Yes, he is most certainly over stepping his grounds.

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Thank you for your response. I must add a correction though. He is NOT oversteppING, he appears to have oversteppED (Past tense)
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I think you should be able to drink what you want. Besides if you fill the cup with ice there's not that much drink in there to start with.

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Thank you for your response. Interesting comment about the ice, because I don't know this for a fact, but I suspect drink dispensers are supposed to be kept at a certain temperature that is fairly cold, so unless one likes their drinks ICE cold, one's beverage is cold enough. I mention this because I sometimes suspect that the adding of ice is just a "ploy" to save on the cost of the beverage, which some might say is a preposterous idea given that many places have free refills. (Most movie theatres do not have free refills though) Just a thought.
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I'm pretty liberal, but that scares me. What is he thinking? Are my snacks next?

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All liberal ideas should scare you. They always have unforeseen consequences. Unforeseen by liberals but conservatives see the dangers of feel good laws. They are always tyrannical.
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They might be.
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