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If we evolved from APES, than why aren't the APES still evolving?

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we and the ape evolved from a common ancestor

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what common ancestor?
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the missing link
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what missing link?
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well if they found it it would not be missing,but ther are several extenct humanoid fossils that have been found as well as extinct ape species found but the one that links the two or the common ancestor has not been found,they have humans from a million years ago
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So, the missing link is still missing?
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yes
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It's interesting that evolution-deniers demand even more concrete, physical evidence of evolution than the overwhelming amounts we already have, but will readily accept an idea that has even less evidence, the idea that we were created as we are by someone/something.
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Oh, but the evolution deniers ignore the tons of more evidence supporting creation. They also ignore the other side of the "evidence" for evolution. However, both views are based on personal belief. If you want to believe we're an accident, well you just believe that we came from a rock. I can't change your mind, all I can do is pray for you. So, I pray for you. I pray that you'll find the truth and come to know God so that I can see you in Heaven one day.
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> We came from a rock
> came from a rock
> from a rock
> rock
> evolution
Am I missing something here?
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So what you're saying is that we don't have the common ancestor of apes yet. Key word here is "yet." Last time I checked (and I check a lot) science is what is observed, tested, and proven. Not something that may be proven in the future - that is left to religion. You're completely leaving the boundaries of science and moving instead to your religion. You can believe that one day we may find the missing link in the future, but it's not science. Don't even call it science. You can't even say beyond a shadow of doubt that we'll ever find the missing link.
And Rmoran: Yes, a rock. You know you're evolution story. 20billion years ago there was a big bang. 4.6 billion years ago the earth cooled off and formed a rocky crust. Then it rained on the ROCKS for millions of years, filling the oceans. And in these oceans appeared a soup of complex chemicals. Then the soup came alive.... and here we are. Yes, you believe we came from a rock. Both sides are religous. I admit that my side is religous, but for some reason, you try to hide it.
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comets brought the water with the comets also came the building blocks of life proteins and whatnot
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63 words to describe evolution and you only actually came close in the ellipses. Congrats, you literally encompassed the entire history of our universe specifically excluding what should have been the only part. By definition, you could not possibility be more wrong.
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Ok, crowtrobot, not rocks, space rocks! Nonetheless, you still believe we came from a rock.
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yeah i guess i do
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Yeah, the blinders are coming off in the world, which limits your time, not mine. Again, common designer, of course there will be similarities like your mutation shared by great apes. It's all belief, whether you like the word or not. There's no proof that we came from a rock, but you believe it anyway. And yes, I'll admit, I probably don't know as much as you, but that doesn't make me wrong, or "ignorant" as you like to put it. You can be the most brilliant man on the face of the planet but still be wrong. The question is who's right? Well, I find absolutely nothing that contradicts the Bible, many things that proves it in the fields of archeaology, biology, astronomy, geology, ect. And sure, there may be a few things that seem consistant with evolution, but there's plenty of stuff contradicting it. Which would you believe if you didn't already have your mind made up? Contradictions or no contradictions? So why is evolution accepted? Think about it. Would it effect your personal life any if you had to follow God's commands? Commands agains lying, stealing, adultry, lust, ect., ect.? Of course it would! 2 Peter 3:4 - look it up.
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i am agnostic,to sat the least,but i wonder sometimes which makes more sense,the universe,which is bigger and has more mass than the mind can comprehend,just suddenly blew out from a miniscule speck,or a being created it by saying let there be light. Either way both sides agree that suddenly there was lifgt. Just food for thought
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bigfoot?

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This was just a theory made by some mad man, No one will ever know for sure how we humans got on this planet, We may have came from apes, We may have came from fish, We may have been put on this planet some other how, All that matters is we're here now.

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I've heard that we evolved from a common ancestor, not DIRECTLY from apes. .-.

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what common acestor babe?
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We evolved from a common ancestor. The apes took another direction - what we observe is MICRO evolution

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They might be, if the evolution idea is right. If it is, and they are in fact evolving, itd be happening too slowly for you to notice.

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Yeah. Unless your a few million years old. In that case, who am I to argue with you, your smart enough to have figured out both immortality AND time travel.
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We are all slave created from aliens that have been put here once we were no longer needed. Jk

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The history channel would have you believe that lol
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You've never seen the documentary movies??
The orangutans are developing into the administrators, gorillas will be the soldiers, and the chimps, the scientists!

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wwwwooow someone will believe anything they see and hear..
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your statement speaks for yourself.
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It's all theory

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Gravity is also a theory
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And that means?
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it's a theory but cannot be a proven scientific fact, like gravity. It is strongly believed.
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Perhaps, because, we didn't evolve from the apes at all. We find no evidence that we ever evolved, in DNA similarities, or in the fossil record. Even Darwin said that there should be millions upon millions of these intermediate links. How many have we found? Only a handful of disputed ones. DNA only proves common designer. There are still millions of differences in just the 10% of similar DNA to the apes. But, if we were created from a common designer, this is exactly what you would expect - similarities. Plus, how did they get the different DNA anyways? There's no scientific evidence that supports the theory that we evolved from apes/common ancestor.

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Ok, why don't you back up what you're saying. Tell me what is so ignorant about my answer. Because Kent Hovind says the same thing? Again, go to an unbiased, scientific website and they'll say the exact same thing. I do much more research outside of Hovind's words. I do research, and all I find is that what Hovind says is 100% accurate. You should do the same thing.
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There's no scientific evidence we were created by a common designer, either. If you're so insistent that the lack of evidence means you can't believe evolution, you must be equally strict and accept that the utter lack of evidence for a creator means you must also not accept the creator theory. Simple consistency. Both are theories, but only evolution is a plausible theory because it is based on overwhelming physical evidence.
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Ok, I'll tell you the same thing I told neodarwinian, back up what you're saying! If you have so much evidence, name one that I, or any other resources I have access to can't explain. Name some solid evidence for evolution. I'm not saying you can't believe evolution, I'm just saying that you can believe either one because both are based on faith.
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Okay, GodordirtZack. Obviously you haven't been reading enough, or you'd know that there IS evidence of evolution every day in laboratories with fast-reproducing species of animals such as fruit flies and mice. Viruses also evolve constantly and quickly, which is why you keep hearing about new, antibiotic resistant "superbugs." Unless you live under a rock or are just supremely stubborn, you have to accept this incredibly clear and constantly observable evidence of genetic change over time. Duh!
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neodarwinian, believe whatever you want, I doubt you'll ever even understand that your belief is a religion.

whatsername, what is observed in these laboratory tests are variations within kinds caused by a loss of genetic information. Has any of your mice or fruit flies ever produced a non-mouse or fruit fly? Of course not. No matter how resistant bugs become to pesticides, they'll always be a fly, or mosquito. They're actually even losing information. They're losing that certain enzyme that the active ingrediants in the pesticides lock on to. When they're put back in a normal population, however, that mutation that was beneficial only in that enviroment, disappeares. That certain fly or mosquito just can't make it. It's considered an abomination in a non-pesticide resistant population. This is the complete opposite of evolution as well. This is an example of losing, not gaining.
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Ok then, have any of your populations of mice or fruit flies ever become a non-mouse or fruit fly population? Either way, it's still the same. All we observe is a loss of genetic information, never gained genetic information. And you immature names that only a five year old would say do not help any of your "arguments" either. I have no Kent Hovind curriculums in my class, and my religous curriculum have nothing on creation. This is all my own research. It even goes way beyond Hovind, but again I'll tell you, I ONLY FIND THAT WHAT HE SAYS IS TRUE!!!!!! If you don't get that, then I'll tell you agian, I PRAY FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! If you don't want to argue any further, fine, nothing's stopping you. I'll I want you to know is that God loves you, He has a plan and purpose for your life. But you can't recognize this plan until you realize first where you came from. God bless.
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"Ok then, have any of your populations of mice or fruit flies ever become a non-mouse or fruit fly population?"

No, because it takes millions of years for a noticeable change to take place.
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Ok, you are now outside of science, peterparker, hiding behind millions of years and "unnoticable" changes. You can believe that if you want, but don't call it science.
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We share 90% of our DNA with Chimpanzies
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So what? That is still millions of differences in just that 10% we don't share. Also, where did it come from? It's never been observed that new information can be added to your DNA. And this exactly what you would expect from a common designer (God) anyways. Similarities. You know, that lug nuts on a Pontiac will fit on a Chevy. I guess that's proof that they both evovled from a Honda 14 million years ago. Or, it could indicate a common engineer. Similar DNA? Not a problem.
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If Europeans colonized the Americas then how come there are still Europeans?
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I think you messed up your score board.
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It's just a joke. I love these kind of things..
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If the sun is a star how come it's a circle?
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If God exists then how come he doesn't exist?
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it makes no sense and it's not helpful.
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We evolved from a common ancestor.

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The way that I understand it, apes evolved from apes, we evolved from proto-humans and there were several species of humans that died out. Homo Sapiens survived the extintion event with only a few thousand surviors. I remember that the article refered to the event as an evolutionary bottleneck. Im sorry, but that is all that I can remember about the subject; it has been a long time since I read it.

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The modern ape has evolved since we've rocketed away from every species as a result of numerous things. The modern ape is only modern today as we are the more intelligent specie because we have gone away so quickly that the modern ape is lower and really has little room to catch up to us because we keep them down. We kill them because we have the brains and barbaric attitude to do so. We catch and cage them. This not only goes for the modern ape but safe to say also any lower specie or sub-human being up to today. We humans have evolved this way.

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if you cannot understand the concept of natural selection and general evolution, do not bring religion into it. religion was not even a concept of it's own while we were evolving 10's of thousands of years ago. Religion is the product of the frontal lobe brain in humans, higher thinking.
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it is only a theory that still has no strong basis. and if we really came from apes, then it must be a special specie of apes. i am a Christian, so i would be believing that God created us. Faith works.

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The belief of God has no basis. (THE BELIEF OF) God to create us, whether or not in his image, is the product of evolution. Could you mention one rational way in which faith works? Not bagging on you, but making debate.
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