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Demographically man has come from one area. So did Adam and Eve really exist?

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Adam and Eve are a metaphor, yes we all came from the same region, what is now Ethiopia.

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Every culture in the world has a creation myth to explain where they came from to children. Adam and Eve is the creation myth for Christians. A creation myth cannot be proved. The other purpose of a creation myth is to build identity in children. It's helps them recognize the group they belong to, as well as helping them recognize outsiders.

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In this case, the myth is actually fairly close to the scientific consensus that humanity came from a very small subset of individuals, likely smaller then 20 individuals. Myth does not always entail fiction.
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Rathkeale: Best answer on this post. Green & double green for you, sir.
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Thanks, Pious.
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It is true Adam and Eve existed. This is because they were the origin of man although they were created and not born unlike the rest of mankind. This is the only one area that man came from even demographically reasoning.

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yes Adam and Eve were real they ate the fruit off of a tree when God told them not to

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No they didn't exist. Mankind evolved over time from a species of ape, it's been scientifically proven that they weren't "created".

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The human population (early or otherwise) never dipped below 2,000. Some research has numbers like 10,000 or 15,000 which may be more accurate, but I went ahead and picked the lowest. You cannot have a first two humans when there has never been less than 2,000.
Francis Collins, an evangelical Christian who was the director of the Human Genome Project and is currently serving as the director of the National Institutes of Health, has stated that Adam and Eve couldn't have existed with the amount of genetic diversity we have today.

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There is no doubt that we have had multiple bottleneck events in history. But I am unaware of any research showing a group haploid divergence or a group mutation. Typically, mutations originate in a single individual, unless there is an environmental cause. I am also unaware of any identified mechanism to cause the divergence of humans and chimps. Perhaps tou have something for me to read? http://www.evolutionpages.com/homo_pan_divergence.htm
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Here is the context of your comment. You will note one of the entries on the blog is that mitochondrial DNA shows we all have descended from a single woman. I do not know if this is true, but I have heard it several times and read it I a TIME magazine article...
http://kenschenck.blogspot.com/2011/06/francis-collins-on-adam.html?m=1
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By the way, in what way is diversity within a species (say, dogs) at all related to divergence from a prior species? One is haploid mutation, the other is genetic drift, environmental adaptation, habitat fragmentation, population structure/management, and similar dynamics.
Haploid mutation occurs at a fairly known rate, resulting in new species; if it's successful, all progeny carry the new trait (hence no diversity). This is why we do not give birth to chimps (or choose your atavistic predecessor). Within the species, diversity occurs as adaptive processes within the DNA/environment/population allow for useful changes (skin color, height, etc).
Or am I miseducated?
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All natural evolutionists I know of believe all of humanity evolved from a different organism and that at one time there were no humans alive. I don't think anyone in their right mind would say that 2,000 humans spawned simultaneously all over the face of the Earth. Genetic research has shown that all of humanity comes from a single location--in Africa, yes, but still. It is possible (genetically) that all humans came from a single woman.
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Nope, you still need at least 15 breeding females and 8 breeding males to start a viable genetic line. In this case 1+1=genetic abnormalities and the death of the group.

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This same principle disproves Noah's ark.
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The scientific consensus is that humankind (specifically homo sapiens sapiens) originated from a very small subset of individuals, perhaps as small as a couple dozen or less.
Adam and Eve are not so much names as Hebrew for Man and Woman. Ish and Ishah are man and woman. an original haploid divergence usually occurs in a mutation, and a group mutation has not been demonstrated absent a single environmental cause.
http://www.evolutionpages.com/homo_pan_divergence.htm

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Ish and ishah are man and woman in the sense of male and female, husband and wife, etc.; but Adam indeed means man in the sense of human or humanity and can refer to a male-man.
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That's what I think I said. We agree, again!
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Oh. Ok :) I thought you were correcting me :)
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Having a BA in Biblical Studies and finishing my MA with a focus on the Pentateuch, I've come to believe what most Old Testament scholars I know believe: that Genesis 1-11 is written intentionally to address incorrect mythological beliefs of other Ancient Near Eastern cultures and was never meant to be read as a linear-history text. Adam is never even named in the text. (The Hebrew word simply means humanity, male, or husband.) Eve essentially means "source of life." Despite most names of popular people in the Bible being used over and over again, Adam and Eve are never used again. Humanity and Source of Life do represent real people--all people--but they are not to be interpreted as historical persons.

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Indeed. This is how i view it also.
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If they were not real, then Jesus Christ and the New Testament are frauds and should not be believed. This question about the credibility of the Bible account is one of many challenges that must be met with truth, for only truth will set us free from our doubt (John 8:31-32).

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It's that kind of thinking that turns many away from Christianity. If you wish to paint such a black and white picture, please don't force it upon others. The historical reality (or lack thereof) of Adam and Eve do not negate or enforce anything of the Message of the New Testament or Old Testament.
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I believe in order to really be a Christian you have to believe in the Bible in it's entirety. I don't think you can just pick and choose what you want to believe and dismiss the rest if it does not suit your interests or thoughts. If you don't believe what God says about Adam and Eve then why should you believe what God says about Jesus. That is the danger.


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Jk: I agree with u to the fullest.
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SbG, in Christianity there are those who take the Bible literally, some take it dynamically or metaphorically, and others use a historical and grammatical method. I use the latter; my first masters in Biblical Languages is likely the reason. The writer intended a meaning, which is what you try to puzzle out using the original language, cultural and historical context, and grammatical intent. It's close to your statement, but I do not literally interpret phrases like "our God is a consuming fire" to literally mean that god is aflame. I use it to mean God is capable of destroying some created thing or all of creation, possibly with a view toward purification.
The mythic interpretation of sections of scripture is typical of neo-orthodoxy and has roots back to Origen; it's lots of fun but I am not convinced its the appropriate hermeneutics to apply. To me, you need to understand what the intent of the writer was. I accept as valid in Christianity both your and Jkg's positions.
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I accept the potential literal interpretation, but I don't accept the exclusive nature that if one doesn't believe the literal interpretation that he or she is not a Christian. It is one thing to have faith that the Bible is the true word of God. It is quite another to believe that one's own literal interpretation is the only way that a passage can be interpreted, and that interpreting it via another method makes someone not a Christian.
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You will be surprised to know that the Adam & Eve myth of bible was forged from the Hindu scriptures, that was written about 4000 years before the genesis. In that scripture Brahma, the highest Hindu god, made up his mind to make the world and a man and woman. He made the world, and he made the man and then the woman, and put them on the island of Ceylon. First he created a man -- and his name was "Adami", and then a woman -- and her name was "Heva".

Almost all the religions claim similar myth of creation while they differ on the identity of the deity. Why? Is god geographical or tribal? Is there any reason to accept one's claim, and reject the other's? Either all are true or none is. All being obscure & phony, all are equally doubtful.

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