Because God has the ability to foreknow events does not mean that he is forced to use that ability any more than He is forced to use His almighty power all the time.God uses his power selectively to accomplish His will.He also uses His ability of foreknowledge selectively.Case in point; God had known about and had made statements regarding Abraham’s faith.However, it was only after Abraham attempted to offer his son Isaac in sacrifice at God’s command did God say “Now I do know that you are God-fearing.”The same was true of Adam and Eve.God warned them of consequences of disobedience, but he let them act as free moral agents in their course.The blame falls on Adam and Eve, not God. Some say God predestines all things.Then God would be responsible for planning out the lives and deaths (many in the most horrific of circumstances) of billions of people.This could not be true of a loving God.God did use His powers of foreknowledge in cases of certain individuals as is plainly stated in God’s word, but He does not predestine the lives of all people or why look both ways before crossing the street?
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he had it coming thats why it was a test to see if they would ever listen to him
It is God command, for a wisdom that only God know, to both Adam and Eve not to eat the forbidden fruit and God informed them that Satan is an enemy to them.
"He knows everything" God's knowledge is not merely greater than our own, but it is infinitely greater. He knows all things in totality.
Westminster Confession of Faith chapter III:
"God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass; yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established"
It was necessary to have the fall so that God could then have a reason to die for our sins thereby demonstrating that God can and does provide the greatest act of love which is to lay down one's life for his friend (John 15:13).
The fall of Satan provides yet another method for God to be glorified in that God can use sin to prove that sin is "bad" and that God's Word about righteousness is true.
If God is to have creatures with free will, then the risk of rebellion is part of that freedom. Satan had that freedom and used it to rebel.
If God had not created Satan and instead another angel fell, then we'd be asking why God made that angel knowing he would fall.
God has reasons about which we know nothing.
I know my children will act badly at times, but knowing that does not mean mean that I shouldn't have kids. Part of the risk of freedom is that rebellion will be a reality.http://carm.org/if-god-all-knowing-why-did-he-create-satan
he had to.. they say he knows all of our plan.. including that shooting in colorado. god planned it..
Logically, yes, If there is a universal deity that holds the answers to life the universe and everything, then, yes. Monotheist shouted the characteristics of a universal deity as an omnipotent, omni present one, the alpha and the omega, that is to say, the beginning of all things and the end of all things and everything in between, endowed with the sum of all knowledge, past present and future because it exists in them all at the same time. Logically, if anyone takes any 1 of these characteristics of power away from this deity of the universe, life and everything, it would not be an all knowing, all seeing deity, logically. tee hee.
One of Jehovah's attributes is that he is omniscient=(all knowing)=================O LORD, you have examined my heart
and know everything about me. You know when I sit down or stand up.
You know my thoughts even when I?m far away. You see me when I travel
and when I rest at home.
You know everything I do. You know what I am going to say
even before I say it, LORD. You go before me and follow me.
You place your hand of blessing on my head. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
too great for me to understand! I can never escape from your Spirit!
I can never get away from your presence! If I go up to heaven, you are there;
if I go down to the grave, you are there. (Psalm 139:1-8 NLT). After carful examination of Psalm139 yes he did know.
Greeeenie and a smile. :)
God is omniscient, which literally means "all-knowing." Job 37:16; Psalm 139:2-4, 147:5; Proverbs 5:21; Isaiah 46:9-10; and 1 John 3:19-20 leave no doubt that God?s knowledge is infinite and that He knows everything that has happened in the past, is happening now, and will happen in the future
1. The rebellion of Satan and the fall of mankind were foreknown and foreordained by God.
2. Those who would become the people of God, the elect, were foreknown and foreordained by God.
3. The crucifixion of Christ, as atonement for God's people, was foreknown and foreordained by God.
To summarize, God knew that Satan would rebel and that Adam and Eve would sin in the Garden of Eden. With that knowledge, God still created Lucifer and Adam and Eve because creating them and ordaining the fall was part of His sovereign plan to manifest His glory in all its fullness. Even though the fall was foreknown and foreordained, our freedom in making choices is not violated because our free choices are the means by which God's will is carried out.
yes im sure he knew...he is all knowing all seeing...it was a test for them not him
biblically, yes he did. which amazes me because hes a hypocrite. he stood there acting like it wouldnt happen. and its cruel too. its just like the movie saw. i mean you know theyre going to do it and the persons punished when they did it anyway. why should they be punished? i mean eve was personally tempted by the snake to disobey. jesus was never tempted by the snake personally. i mean you know the snake is in there the entire time and you punish them because you allowed them in there? its like bad parenting. you see a snake go into your babys crib and you tell them not to play with it. but do you think theyre really going to listen to you anyway? obviously not
Did Henry Ford know the car he was building would kill people? Perhaps. Does this make him evil? Probably not.
I can defend the view that the existence of evil in the world is consistent with the existence of an omnipotent, perfectly good God. First, we posit that evil and good exist.
1 The amount of good in the world requires the possibility of substantial evil (good only appears good by contrast).
2. I distinguish moral evil (which comes from humans acting in morally bad ways) from natural evil (pain and suffering that comes from anything other than human action with predictable outcome), both of which are necessary for the world's good.
3. Why is moral evil is necessary Consider what sorts of goods a generous god would give to humans. In addition to pleasure and contentment, is it possible that such a god would "give us great responsibility for ourselves, each other, and the world, and thus a share in his own creative activity of determining what sort of world it is to be??
4. This kind of responsibility requires that humans have free will, for we are not responsible for our actions absent the freedom to choose other actions. Moreover, it is incompatible with God's intervention when humans commit bad acts. That is, to have genuine responsibility for something, one must have the opportunity to harm that thing as well as benefit it.
5. I argue that humans must have some inherent inclination to act badly in order for us to have a real choice between doing good and doing evil. If we only had an inclination to act rightly, then doing so would be a foregone conclusion.
6. Thus, in order to make the choice between good actions and evil actions meaningful, God would have allowed humans inclined to act wrongly in order to facilitate the responsibility necessary for a good life.
I believe the presence of natural evil is necessary in much the same way. On account of this, natural evil provides opportunity for humans to have the complex responsibility necessary for good lives. It does so in two ways. First, the natural processes that result in evil allow humans to either exploit them to harm others (a moral evil) or fight them to do good. For example, humans can learn about diseases to help spread disease or fight it. Second, the existence of natural evils gives humans the opportunity to act in morally significant ways. Pain, for example, allows one to thrive in the face of adversity or to help others in need. It therefore increases the breadth of human responsibility and contributes to quality of life available. So both moral and natural evil bear upon human responsibility, which is itself necessary for human good. Since an omnipotent and benevolent god would provide the best possible life for humans, such a good would allow for evil.
As well as certain human characteristics and motivations
Yes. It was all part of the plan, Adam fell that men might be, and men are, that they might have joy.
After partaking of the fruit, they knew good from evil.
Sure he did, but he had the perfect plan for that ... Like he always does
But guess what.. Your "going" to get to ask him.. While on your knees
But god said it best .. He does laugh........................................:-))
?How long, you simple ones, will you love simplicity? For scorners delight in their scorning, And fools hate knowledge. Turn at my rebuke; Surely I will pour out my spirit on you; I will make my words known to you. Because I have called and you refused, I have stretched out my hand and no one regarded, Because you disdained all my counsel, And would have none of my rebuke, I also will ""laugh ""at your calamity; I will mock when your terror comes, When your terror comes like a storm, And your destruction comes like a whirlwind, When distress and anguish come upon you. ?Then they will call on me, but I will not answer; They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me. ""Because they hated
knowledge "" And did not choose the fear of the Lord, They would have none of my counsel And despised my every rebuke. Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way, And be filled to the full with their own fancies. For the turning away of the simple will slay them, And the complacency of fools will destroy them; But whoever listens to me will dwell safely, And will be secure, without fear of evil.? (Proverbs 1:22-33 NKJV)
"The (spiritually) living and the (spiritually) dead are not alike. Allh causes to hear whom He will. But you cannot make those hear who are (lying buried) in the graves (of ignorance and prejudice)." Al-Quran [35:22]
"(On the other hand) there are some people who follow ways of causing diversion (from guidance), with the result that they, in their ignorance, lead (people) astray from Allh?s path and treat it (- Allh?s path) as something of least importance. A humiliating punishment awaits such people." Al-Quran [31:6]
O btw I answered your question in the comments on the ? Concerning creation, light, and the sun and earth being formed..
Think is the ? Under "dinasaurs "
Hope it help understand the position somewhat..
Tc
It was all part of his plan...free will. Otherwise we would all be robots....with that, why exist? There will always be good and evil...its up to us to decide what we do.
All you have to do is read The Bible. It has your answers.
God gave them free will. God Knew they would disobey him, this was a test of obedience and failed.
Welp I'm gonna hafta say that he supposed to be omnipotent, right? Wouldn't that include seeing into the future?