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Why do religious people say Atheists are going to hell?

...they obviously don't believe in hell

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Im a Christian and would never say that. It's not my place to judge others.

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People ask questions to christians about such things and when they answer, they can't lie to them, even if they were tempted to. I'm not saying they are tempted to but they usually tell them what the Bible says.
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I'm not like that. I refuse to spew out verses or certain scriptures. I had a debate about this last night on Fb. It's just not my place to judge anyone. I used to say things but then I got older and learned that no one can say whose right or wrong but God. Therefore I leave the judging to him:)
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We can't judge the soul of another only God can. But we can and should tell everyone what God has said about accepting Jesus as Savior & Lord and how he said "I am the way, the truth and the life, and no one comes to the father except by me." Doing that is not judging because you cannot make that decision for them nor even know for sure whether they have made a decision for Christ or not.
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I see your point, but like I said I used to. It always caused problems. They're atheist so I know they don't believe. I have no problem if they ask me for info. But I have learned they feel it's judging. Therefore I never do that anymore again, if asked for my view I'll give it but only if they want it
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missmario, what you said is absolutely correct and I agree.
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It all depends on beliefs; that's what they believe is going to happen, but these days half of this world are atheists.

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Its hard to believe in one religion when there are so many.
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Yea it can get confusing sometimes, the person who says that are basically going against what they believe in; because it is wrong to judge. I don't know why there's so many religions.
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butterballbuba, what scripture made you think one can make it to Heaven if they don't believe in God, or Jesus, or even hell or Heaven?
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It's not up to me. I'm not saying anything. What I'm basically saying is if someone does not believe in god they should not be judged by it or someone to tell them "your going to hell" you cannot force someone to believe in god. That just makes the person who said that look bad themselves. Who are they to tell someone they are going to hell? Do not argue about religion, its so ignorant. If someone doesn't believe in god then leave just it alone. It's there option not anybody else's. And if someone does believe in god. Okay. That's it.
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bravo butterballbuba
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Nobody can predict where one might end up after death.
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I agree, its a total mystery and always will be. You just have to wait till your time to find out the truth
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Exactly Chloe2013, so not to worry; never let a person tell you your going to hell and if they do remind them how it just makes them look bad and hypocritical. I hope I was able to help you out with this. Most of my friends are atheist even my boyfriend so I have absolute no problem with it.
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Yes you were helpful. Most my friends are atheist as well. I'v had a recent ex-friend who found out i was atheist and said we couldn't be friends anymore. It hurt but im getting over it. Thanks for the help =)
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butterballbuba,They ask the questions and they get the answers. That is usually the way it is.
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In Christian and it's wrong for Christians to say that, as long as you lived a good life you don't go to hell lol even if ur atheists

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We can't make it to Heaven by our works. We needed a Saviour and that's why God sent Jesus to become that sacrifice for us so we could be reunited with God through Jesus. Living a good life won't get us there, in other words. We must have a repentant heart and come to Jesus.
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Yes the comment is spot on. Being "good" cannot gain you entry to heaven, as no one can be good enough because it requires perfection. Or else you die forever. But since Jesus was perfect he could pay the penalty for us not being perfect (death) and as he was God's son he rose from the dead and thus guarantees us life with God in heaven.
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Yes. I agree.
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Whatever
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People believe if you dint believe in anything, then your life has no purpose or that you are miserable because Jesus isn't in your life. Many people lose their faith because of ignorant people and their hateful beliefs. I for one.

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Im atheist and i don't feel like i have to search for my meaning in life. I believe people just are and should make the best of what they have
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magdalene
How can one lose his faith in Jesus for what a human does? Jesus didn't change. He is the same forever.
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It is extremely difficult to be a Christian when so many in the Christian community are so hateful.
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Maddiemoder, I'm not sure which person you thought was being hateful, the one answering or me, in the comment above. But I'm thinking The Tudors called Christians ignorant and hateful. So, I'm assuming that you may mean him. I wondered though. My comment wasn't from a hateful heart. I was just stating the fact that our faith has to be in Jesus.People will disappoint us, but God never changes. He will be the same.
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I am not calling Christian in general hateful. I'm just saying the majority of discriminators and prejudiced people happen to be christian or belong to a Christian based church.
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Look up the meaning if the original Hebrew word for hell. It simply means the common grave of mankind. There is no fiery place of torment for bad people. We just die. Isn't that punishment enough?

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In my opinion dying isn't your own personal punishment, but a loss for the people who love you. I'm not afraid of death
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Hell is described in the Bible.
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Where?
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@Magdalene just leave it alone. Your beliefs are what you believe in, and if someone doesn't believe in god then let it be. You are not to judge anyone. It's there life, not yours.
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Matthew 25:41 Luke 16:19-31 Matthew 8:12 2Peter 2:4-9 Revelation 21:8
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butterballbuba, If I am asked a question, I will choose whether or not to answer. I would appreciate if you would use manners please. And, if not I will still answer when I am asked and comment when I feel to do so. Thank you.
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I'm not trying to be rude, but you should not judge.
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It's not judging.... It's stating facts from the bible. I'm not the one deciding where people end up. It's the bible.
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I've judged no one. If I do, the Holy Spirit will convict me.
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I wanted to know that's why I asked. I'm going to look those references up and comment on them if I may.
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Ok. When you read these scriptures in harmony with the rest of the bible the meaning becomes more clear. We can make any single scripture mean anything we want but put it in context with the entire bible and it can only mean one thing. I am not a bible expert but Genesis 3:19 says clearly that we will return to the ground from which we came and return to dust. Pretty clear. Ecclesiastes3:19-20 says that man and beast have the same eventuality, that they both die, and they are going to the same place; all came from dust and all will return to dust. I dont think ive ever heard anyone say animals are suffering in a hell of torment but the bible says we go to the same place So these scriptures that you quote about darkness and everlasting fire are symbols for total destruction and a cutting off of Gods light of truth into darkness. Revelation is speaking of a complete death from which there is no resurrection. The second death. Resurrection is possible after our initial death. Also see Eccl 9:5-6 where it says when you die your thoughts die too. So those scriptures about Lazarus and the dead man must be symbolic. The question is 'what do they really mean when viewed with these other scriptures?'. Not trying to change your mind, Magdalena, just glad to have a discussion. What do you think? Ever read these before? Thanks for your thoughts.
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We do return to dust. And, yes animals return to dust. All that is true. But, Revelation 20th chapter talks about the lake of fire. I would type it and started to, but really the whole chapter needs to be read. Rev. 20:15 though does say And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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How can sinners burn in a fiery hell and yet return to dust? It makes no sense. But does make sense if Rev is talking about eternal and final destruction not hellfire. Well, agree to disagree. Thanks for the discussion.
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The returning to dust is when our bodies die naturally. Like, for example, if I died today, my body would go through the process of degrading etc. I would return to dust. But, when it speaks of the fiery furnace, that is after Jesus comes and that is where the fiery furnace comes in. It's the eternal Heaven or Hell, the fiery furnace. The dust is first, the fiery furnace is second. Although, I'm not saying I want to go to Hell, just used it for example.
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Religious people don't say this, the bible and our Heavenly Father have said this. The only way to have eternal life is through Jesus.

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there is a reason i asked the question and its because i have been told several times by Christians or whatever they are that im going to hell because i don't believe in god
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Well if you do go to Hell, (and if there Is a Hell) you will be in the company of some 5 billion people on this planet who are atheist.
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As a Christian I have a responsibility to let others know the truth of the bible. The only way to heaven is through the saving grace of Jesus. The alternative is absolute total separation from the Love of God. That is the true hell. The bible also describes hell as a place of eternal suffering.
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Have you ever died before, sir? No? Oh okay. So you know all of this from reading a book? And this book specifically tells you to inform people that they are going to Hell? I don't see God's glory in that at all. I see a corrupt individual degrading other's beliefs for not being similar to his own. God says to live and respect others.
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Why would you worship someone who would inflict eternal punishment on you anyway?
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Everyone has their own beliefs and I vote that we all respect each other's differences. I personally believe that there is some divine being out there somewhere, but with so many different religions and perspectives on those religions, it is IMPOSSIBLE to know the truth of who exactly that is. I respect everyone's beliefs and just try to be the best I can be. IF being a wonderful human being isn't good enough, then I don't want to go to heaven. I would rather be in hell where I would be in good company.
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I feel like a broken record.... God is not sending anyone, or inflicting anything, He has stated truths and we can choose follow them and receive blessings and eternal life or deny Him and suffer. It is the choice of the person. If people choose to live on their own and not believe of the saving grace of our Lord they should stop blaming others. I have nothing to do with this. It's between an individual and God.
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Well, It is no one's place to judge others. I say, if you are a "good person"and love others then if there is a heaven you will be accepted. If the Christian god does, in fact, exist then I doubt he would send good people to Hell for simply not understanding or believing in him. That is not the way of God. (Or so I've heard from the Bible itself). Also, I personally know many Christians that only look out for themselves and for the sake of their "eternal life." They would never help another soul if they thought heaven didn't exist. I applaud the atheists that go out of their way to help others just because they WANT to help others. So it really annoys me when people commend others to an eternity of suffering simply for not believing what they do. Let your God judge them. that is NOT your job. Your job is to be the best person you can possibly be and help others to be the best that they can possibly be.

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The Bible says that you shall not enter Heaven unless you believe in the Lord, but I, personally, find it hard to believe that an all-living God would send good people to such an awful place. I just don't know. It doesn't make any sense to me.
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Your position is that people get automatically invited into a home based on good behavior. That heaven is something you earn, and is Payne t for a life well lived. That's heaven as a reward for "employment." I don't see it this way.
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Everyone that comes in my home does so because I invited him. If someone comes to my door, let's say selling magazines, I do not invite them in just because he wants in. I don't let them in because they have been a good person. I decide who comes in, and my rules apply, not his.
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Heaven is God's home. He decides who can come in, and who can spend the night. Everyone, all 100 percent, have been invited. And it's not going to be based on how good they are-- it's based on the relationship, just as people who come into my home may not have the best behavior, may in fact be disorderly at times, but they all are invited based on the fact that I know them.
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*Payne t = payment (I hate predictive text)
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Or you could be hospitable and get to know them...But I agree to some extent. it is Gods choice an no one else's. That is why I hate when people tell other people that they will not be allowed into heaven. It's like a mean kid in school telling another kid that he isn't invited to the popular kid's party.
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John 14:6 Jesus answered " I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one gets to the father except through me"

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I will answer if you answer mine: Atheists tell theists they can't speak in schools, can't put crosses up on graves, can't pray in public. Why do they wish to limit our religious freedoms?

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Atheists don't want to limit others religious freedoms they just don't want others religion to be pushed on them, if you have a religion and want to express your religious beliefs by praying then do it at a church or in your own home. Public schools are for leaning not for religion, thats what church is for.
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and i do believe there are christian schools or catholic schools...so if you want religion in school there you go. its an option, everyone can believe what they want to believe just don't force it on others
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If ever I needed evidence that atheists want to limit my religious freedom, I have it.
Do you have freedom to free speech only at home or in church? Religious freedom is exactly the same; limits on it are tied to free speech, and if you substitute speech for religion, any limits that seem unreasonable for one are unreasonable for the other.
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I will answer your question now. I never tell people they are going to Hell; I don't have specific knowledge of their destiny, I only say that heaven is God's home, and he has the right to invite whoever he wants to it, and to exclude those who don't belong also. Everyone who stays overnight at my home has been an invitee. God has the same right.
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Thanks SBG but you forgot to up thumb! Lol
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Juke to the left... Stutter step forward...fade away........... Swish
Ball game ...
Green :)
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That's why there are christian and catholic schools. Freedom does not come without restrictions. The only way to make it fair would be to abolsih religion all together, and no one wants that.
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Dark nexus--are you telling me that, as an atheist, you want to restrict my way religious rights by limiting me to praying at home & church???
You do not understand how civil rights work. 4 example, say that this was just free speech. Would I be restricted to have free speech only at home and at church?
There is a 2fold test when seeking any restrictions on civil rights. What is the compelling state interest ? And is there a less restrictive way of resolving the question? Restricting any speech, prayer, or religious talk to home and church does not meet either of these tests. No court would enforce this, and no legislature would enact it. If they did, churches would march on Washington.

In what way do your restrictions on my constitutionally protected free speech and religious rights make any sense whatsoever?
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Yes shiny.. He is ;) lmfao
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Always a green for you, Shiny
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Nah, I'm not an athiest and I don't want to restrict your way of religion. It's just that freedom without restriction causes chaos. Praying in public and putting crosses on graves are perfectly fine by me, though there may be some... violence involved every once in a while. Speaking in schools in my opinion is a definite no. Schools are places where people of multiple religions come together, so to teach a religion in a public school would cause parents to worry. Religious clubs, I am all for. Religious electives in highschool? Maybe, but probably not. Other then that I don't think it would work out..
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They actually will not only restrict teaching of any kind of religion, bit also remove all references. Christmas break has been changed to winter break in most schools (in california anyways) and easter break has been replaced with spring break. It isn't a matter of preaching as much as acknowledging. People's urge to be "politically correct" cuts down on our freedoms and privacy. That doesn't mean racism, but it is ridiculous that I can't quote the bible in public without someone having to say something. Secular media and education try to not only censor religion, but make it irrelevent
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Dark- religion was incorporated into our education system for almost two centuries without harm or difficulty. In fact, we never once had a school shot up like Columbine, prior to prayer being removed from schools. So, I think the burden of proof is on you to prove that an extreme secular position is better for education; as for me, I am convinced otherwise.
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When a person feels that he is in the right direction, naturally he feels others are on the wrong. The religious faith obliges them to warn those who are on the wrong path to prevent them getting perished.
May God Bless you!

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Thanks Shiny!
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Because they deny God and Christ and God isnt going to let people who refuse to even believe He exists into His heaven and the only other choice is hell by default.

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Christian don't say it... They just quote the God that "does" say it

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A truth with bite. Green
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Green.
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Not all of us do. I believe so long as you're a good person, you get into the afterlife (which is called the Duuat, or at least the higher levels of it). I'm a practitioner of the Kemetic/Ancient Egyptian religion.

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Hm. So, anyone can camp out at your home, as long as they are a good person? That's pretty nice... Do you feed em too?
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If someone comes to my door and asks to spend the night, I would first ask myself if I knew them, and I might ask if they were my wife's friends. I would not be impressed with their goodness, nor with their having done a lot of nice things for other people. I would invite them in based on my relationship to them.
The afterlife is not employment. We don't earn it. We are given permission to live with God because he likes us and gives us permission to stay. His house-- his rules.
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Well, I don't believe in your God. So what you just said really doesn't matter to me. No offence meant.
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All are welcome in God's kingdom. But if you do not accept God or do not believe in God then accepting God's invitation would be doubtful. It is their choice. Funny thing about free will--it was given to us by God and is ours to do with as we wish. Heaven is being with God and hell is being without God.

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That's an interesting way of looking at it. Thanks for sharing.
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You are welcome.
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