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vdaroju: 9 months ago

No cure for Autism ? So there is no person who was diagnosed autism at 3 years, but got cured 100% ?

I was told that in reality there is no cure for autism, So there is no one in the world who was diagnosed as autistic and latter on he got cured by him self ?

I am more interested in autism professional who mistakenly diagnosed a below 3 years old boy, but latter on they realized he is not an autistic person.

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Sephira: 9 months ago

Assuming that one has not been misdiagnosed, there is not any guaranteed "cure" for Autism, as it is a life-long condition. There are treatments, which can help to minimize the "symptoms", and in some cases (especially for those who are on the milder end of the spectrum) it can seem as if they have been "cured". However it's just that they have learned how to overcome their particular behavioral issues, or other manifestations of their disability enough, so that it is no longer noticeable.

There are many different things which may be misdiagnosed as autism, or as having autistic-like symptoms, which may later be treated and "cured" through various treatments. However in many cases it's more likely that they were not truly on the spectrum, or it was a particular thing (like a food allergy) that was causing the autism-like symptoms.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

So what is the difference between overcome and cure when it comes to behavior of a person. ?

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Sephira: 9 months ago

Cure, means that the disability is completely gone. Overcome means that they have learned how to managed the behaviors, or how to be in a crowd of people without completely freaking out. It's learning how to tolerate different textures, when what you'd rather do is run naked, because the feel of some fabrics on your skin makes you want to scream. It's basically they still have it, but have learned how to cope with it, so that they can function enough to get through their days as "normally" as possible.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

There was nothing abnormal with him, is not responding to his name 3 times out of 10 situation is a abnormal ? if he is not with toys he will what ever you want to do.
pick up pencil and put it on table. there are just two things he is crazy about, one any electronic toy which has buttons and it plays some music.. and another thing is singing song and imagining that video. It just those two things some times makes him not respond. But if we same thing interesting like 'i am going out, Bye Bye' he will respond very quick.

anyway, so how would a child of 3 old, tells you if he is playing with a toy by interest or he learnt how NOT to get scared and play with it?

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

there's nothing wrong with your kid. he's fine. of course if you totally change his environment at that age he'll have some sort of problem.

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Sephira: 9 months ago

It's really hard to say, without being able to actually observe him. Is the diagnosis from his regular pediatrician, or did you take him for a full evaluation at one of the Children's Hospitals? If he went through a full evaluation, and they are saying he has autistic tendencies, I would go with the diagnosis for now - you can always have him re-evaluated in a year or two, and they may find (especially after being in early intervention programs for a while) that he is no longer on the spectrum, and rule it a misdiagnosis.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

sephira, what do you consider the best preventative actions? what would someone actually do to the kid to 'condition' them for the future?

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

Oh yes, it was full evaluation, first three professional came to my home one after another with one week gap, no buddy said or even suspected autism in him, the speech professional said, he is showing speech delay (which i agree). No one suspected autism, and the final psychologist evaluation was done at regional center, it took like 45 minutes to 1 hour, she made him play with toys, some toys he didn't show interest, some he did. One thing though, the psychologist didn't call him with his name not even single time. But she asked us that question 'Will he respond to his name ?' and we said No (as he is not responding 3 times out of 10 situations) and there were lot of questions for which we answered wrong with out knowing that.

For example, will he use index finger for pointing things ?, when we heard that question, we didn't recall, and answered 'NO', but after evaluation is done, we recalled that he uses his index finger perfectly to show his body parts eye, nose, knees... and to show shapes and animals in a book.

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Sephira: 9 months ago

@joeblow - if someone is actually autistic, early intervention programs can mean the difference between literally needing help with basic skills for the rest of one's life, and being able to be either full self-sufficient (in milder cases), or at least somewhat self-sufficient in some areas (in more severe cases). It can be the difference between being able to have positive interactions in one's community (just being able to to to a restaurant or the grocery store, without completely melting down), or being almost completely homebound.

I wasn't kidding either about not being able to tolerate clothing, many children that are autistic have aversions to certain textures, and it's only through occupational therapy, that they are able to even get to the point where they can wear clothes for an extended period of time, without freaking out (literally).

Also, if one has verbal delays, having speech therapy early on, can help them make tremendous strides, so that they are not delayed later on when it really matters. Or if necessary teaching them other forms of communication, so that even if they never talk, they can still get their thoughts across to others.

It's not conditioning them to be "normal", it's making sure that they have the basic skills necessary to have a decent quality of life. Things that the rest of us take for granted, many of these kids will NEVER have, because of the severity of their disability.

It's fine to ask questions, and do one's own research and be proactive in the care of one's child. However when there is a potential issue, especially if they suspect that it's autism, then it's worth taking every possible step to ensure that they get whatever treatments are available. The earlier the better - it makes that much of a difference to these kids.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

@sephira, i totally understand you. you are quite well intentioned. i don't disagree with what you are trying to handle.

i just don't agree that anyone can label someone with a 'condition', while supporting no cure for it at all, saying they have to live with it for the rest of their life. i don't trust that the medical 'world' has it all figured out, they don't. if they did, they would be able to cure, not treat.

and i don't disagree with any techniques you give the child to help them, so long as you do not drug them. drugging them is a gross joke.

that's all.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

I kind of do not under stand, children are not supposed to hate some textures ? did that kid tell you that he/she doesn't like it ? if you or some one is able to manage that kid overcome that issue, and now that kid is liking that texture?

Anyway, is autism all about preparing or making some one to fit their life. Then that should be parents responsibility, if my child hate some texture, i will deal with right ? how would a third person know about how to teach my kid how to feel comfort about it ?, for example, my son used to scare when he hears ambulance sound, later on, i made it a play. So next time when he heard the ambulance sound he ran to me or him mother and mimic that sound, he not scared to that sound any more.

if i teach him the play with ambulance sound, latter 1 year (he will 4 then). He will still be scared to that sound and psychologist would have one more reason to label my son as autistic guy. And hence get his education records spoiled.

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Sephira: 9 months ago

@vdaroju - when a child's sensitivities to food, textures, sounds, etc... interfere with their ability to function "normally", and please know that "normal is a relative term and clearly varies - then there is a problem.

My son will literally only eat off of one specific plate, and drink out of one specific cup - if something happens to either one of them, he freaks out. He has a specific brand of pull-ups that he wears, and if we have to change brands, it's a huge issue for him if they are different in any way. He only eats certain foods, though he's getting better about that - and he's living proof that a person can survive on dry honeycombs cereal alone for long periods of time. He is completely non-verbal, despite years of speech therapy (though it has helped him immensely with his communication skills in general). He has very little "safety" awareness, and is often in his own little world, we have to keep the house completely locked down, because if he could - he'd open the door and wander off. He will always need assistance with basic skills.

That's what it's like on the severe end of the spectrum. It sounds like your son, is probably on the mild/high functioning end, and if you think you can take care of it all by yourself, go for it. If he grows out of these behaviors, that's awesome. But if there is any legitimate reason for you or your wife to think that your son might have autism, then it's worth it to get the extra help now when it can make the biggest impact.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@Sephira; We never suspected autism in him, only thing we asked our pediatric doctor is 'my kid knows more than 400 words and he can say clearly those words when we ask him or when he see those object, he even sings 10s of rhymes, but he do not initiate a communication like sentences'. So pediatric doctor suggested us to visit the regional center (she didn't even say 'get evaluated him with autism'). We happen to search online about how to make child talk sentences, and we say autism stuff, latter on when we went to regional center, instead of asking them 'my child is not making sentences' we asked them 'evaluate autism on my child'.

anyway, i still do not believe that my child is an autistic person. He might have speech delay, thats completely our mistake because we didn't give him chance to ask for anything, if we felt its time for him to have food, we just fed him ( every 3 hours), make water available to him we keep glass of water here and there like at his toys, So he never had to ask for food or water. We did not encourage him to ask for something. For example from his 15th month he started pulling our finger to computer to play song for him. And we just continued it, we never ever said a word so that he can use it for that song, but yeah, once the song is finished we said 'oh it is over' in our language, from that on he says 'oh it is over' when ever song finishes. So anyway as i said i still dont believe he has autism. But sending him to early intervention will not anything bad, so i will send him if the send evaluation also results in autism. Or just to satisfy my wife's intention. But the issue is, they did not refer him to a speech therapy, i didn't under stand that part.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@Sephira, Please let me know your thoughts on following link

http://www.drhomeo.com/autism-treatment-2/

we contacted them, they say their treatment works they have done hundreds of cases.
Please let me know your thoughts...

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Sephira: 9 months ago

If you have the money to spend, it never hurts to try, but generally things like that I am very wary of. It concerns me that there is no mention of exactly what the "treatment" entails - other than "homeopathy", which can mean any number of things. I wouldn't expect them to give out trade secrets, but there should be a general outline of the protocol and how this particular treatment is expected to work (or what sort of results to expect). You'll notice as well that it mentions that this will likely take "years" to affect whatever "cure" it is they are selling - which tells me that it's more than likely more of a money making scheme than any actual cure. Not that it might not be beneficial in some ways, but you'll have spent quite a bit of money before you find out.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

well, what do you define as cure? let's take this 3 year old. what actual symptoms did he have that made him susceptible to be 'labeled' autistic?

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

1. Not using words when he is supposed to
2. Not interacting with kids in here ( he used to interact with kids actively back in my home country, psychologist rules it away as he is here for the last one year)
3. Not responding to his name for each and every time
4. Too much concentration on playing with toy (different type of toys)
5. When evaluation was going on he repeated Fork (we do not use fork, he fork for the second time.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

okay. what is the goal? a pattern individual? is a perfect society one where everyone responds 'appropriately' and does not differ? i don't think so. maybe he is really interested in that toy. is that a problem?
now, how does this then manifest itself 15 years later?

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

That is what said to doctor, and doctor said some reason like he do not like interacting to new people and that is why he is playing with toys an you are (parents) thinking he is interested in toys.

i kind of didn't understand 'manifest itself 15 years later' could you please elaborate ?

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

okay. just don't get tricked into thinking that a 3 year old kid that is a bit more shy than others is a candidate for labeling him mentally ill. should i get a mental illness label because i am addicted to coffee? that's what the Diagnostic & Statistical Manual (DSM) states.

I mean, what will this kid be like when he is 25? Will he have any problems preventing him from living a good life?

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

thank you for the explanation. Exactly, looks like they do not have answer for such kind of questions, but want to label my son autism and put him in an early intervention programs(EIP). The big issue i have right now is, the EIP will show up on his education back ground even after 25 years, i believe it will make difference when it comes to selecting my son in a job selection where knowledge competition ends and education history makes the win.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

oh boy. yeah i wouldn't want to do that. especially, don't let them put him on any sort of drug.

if society advanced just fine through all the way up until the late 20th century without labels of mental disorders and drugs, why can't it now? 20 million children in america are now on drugs for 'mental disorders'. why is everyone suddenly insane? and look at the statistics of the schooling system - it is declining in an exact parallel measure to the amount of labelings.

whether your son isn't quite as social as others right away is not a major issue. he can still do well in life.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

And one thing i don not understand is, they say each children is different, but when you take him to specialist the compare your child with same age child's qualifications, they are ruling out their own statements....

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Sephira: 9 months ago

@vdaroju - if your son is potentially delayed, early intervention is one of the best things that you can do for him. Even if it turns out that there is nothing wrong with him, at worst he's simply had a head start in learning, which can only help him as he grows.

While each child is different, there are certain "markers" which are present in nearly ALL cases of autism. So they evaluate based on those markers. Even though all children are different, there are still certain things that all children do to one degree or another - it's also important to note that if he used to do those things, and now is not doing them, that is also another potential warning sign, as there is a form of autism that is regressive and doesn't show up until later. A child seems to progress normally, but then starts regressing.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

good catch on my child's 'used to do things, but stopped it now', i know that is red flag for parents. But you should understand that he used to play with kids back in my home country, where every one has their doors open day time, every one speaks same language and specially there were 14 members (i was not with him all these 18 months) continuously used to play with him all day long, and he had such environment till his 20 the month, and then we brought him here, and it is a prison for him, doors are closed all the time, no body there to play with him, youtube rhymes, toys and her mom is the only world for him all by one day changed everything. Don't think it would have shocked him ? and made him attached to toys.

Now from last one year we took him to play with other kids only 30 times i guess, and each time different kid and no one talks his language, so how is he supposed to interact with kids ?

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Sephira: 9 months ago

Honestly at his age, he shouldn't have any trouble (even with a language barrier) hanging out with random kids at the local playground. Kids normally don't care so much about that sort of thing, they just play. Also at that age, a year is plenty of time to adjust to new surroundings, even if he doesn't have a lot of other kids his age - how is he interacting with you? If he's not even doing those things with you, then that is a flag as well.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

in all honesty, don't take each doctor as being some all-knowing authority. it is a subject hardly known about, with more authority given as a pretense than is due.

if you want to want to make an informed decision as a parent, you should honestly take the time to watch the following video. here is an introduction to it:

http://www.cchr.org/videos/marketing-of-madness.html

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

He plays very well with slides, swings only thing is he doesn't interact with kids.
Oh yeah he interact with us, for what ever his needs all my gesture like pulling my finger to computer key board for a video. If i still do it, he starts crying, recently we started not do anything if he use gestures, so he started asking about it, for example, he pulls me to the computer key board and sings a song that he wants.

What would you expect more than that out of a 2 years 8 months old buy.

And language is not a barrier ? really ?, the psychologist who evaluated my kid used bubbles to test some thing (i dont know what it is) once she stopped she said 'MORE' in english, but if she has said same word in our language, he would have definetly said it back, because we teached it to him.

one more example, if we command him to bring his book in our language, he goes and searches for it and brings it back us, if you say the same thing in english he just ignores you.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

Oh yeah he interact with us, for what ever his needs all my gesture like pulling my finger to computer key board for a video. If i still do not do* it

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Sephira: 9 months ago

If he is 3, he should be talking to you. If he's non-verbal and using gestures and having to pull you to indicate what he needs that is a HUGE red flag. Please let your son get help if he needs it. It can make a very big difference in his life.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

well, i my self didn't talk untill 3 year, am i an autistic guy now ?

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

definitely not! did you look at that video?

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

to add more he is 2 years and 8months now there are still 4 months, i would rather wait till that time, instead of having a black dot on his white education records paper, i can wait till 4more years.

when autism was not found, other guys (who matched my son's symptoms) who were autistic might have settled well with their clean education records that do now show early intervention even if they needed.

now that Autism is found, not sure how kids with autism are being treated at early intervention, but sure the education record will show its impression on his talent.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

agreed. did you look at that video?

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@joeblow123: Thank you Lord, really, my wife needed this kind of videos, he was really fighting with me to get him medication, she saw some add and a youtube video, and then she started pushing so hard that we have very big fight last night. about giving him medicine. Thank you joeblow123:.

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Sephira: 9 months ago

@vdaroju: My son was accurately diagnosed at 18 months as being autistic, so if your son is almost 3, there are clear signs. Just because you don't want your child to be labeled, is not a good reason to ignore them.

Autism has been around for years and years and years, it is not some recent discovery. What is scary is the the incidence rates have skyrocketed in the last few year. Yet despite that, they have not yet been able to isolate what causes it, nor how to cure it yet.

Do not ignore your doctors - if they think that he would benefit from early intervention, then there is absolutely no reason not to let him do it. If there is really nothing wrong with him, early intervention programs will not hurt him, if there is actually something wrong, not doing it can be detrimental to him.

Some things that may be worth reading...
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/blogs/on-parenting/2009/12/02/how-to-get-early-intervention-autism-therapy-for-your-child

http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/treatment.html

https://www.health.ny.gov/community/infants_children/early_intervention/autism/

As to meds - my son has been on Celexa to help with his meltdowns and to help him focus for 9 years, with no side effects, so it's a matter of finding the right medication (if medication is needed).

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

that's so sad that you're kid has been on a drug for 9 years...

chemical imbalance is a lie.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

No, i did not ignore any doctor in my life, or in my wife's life, even when they did bad to me. But god, this is a 2 hrs 8 months kid. He cann't even tell you whats his problem is. Physically he is good, he is eating good.. he just not satisfying your measurements. As i said i would have sent him to early intervention, does not matter my son is autistic child or not.

But now after knowing that the early intervention program leaves its own finger print on my son's education record, i am scarred join him.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@Sephira, I my self did not talk until i am 3 years old, am i autistic person now ?

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@Sephira, if some one evaluated me at my 3rd year, and told my parents that i am an autistic boy, and if my parents have sent me to early intervention and i would have gained, who knows, may be a very good hand writing. But early intervention would have left its mark on my education record and i might not be doing this job. May be i might be doing some kind of low paying job just because i have that thing in my education background, what you say ?
Please correct me all the objection i have right now is that education background, i see that thing i my dreams, that my son got rejected even though he did well in his interview process, at some company because they saw this early intervention thing in his education background.

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Sephira: 9 months ago

@joeblow123: when my son is not on his meds he has violent meltdowns and can injure himself and others - on his meds he is able to focus and not be as self-harming, without being totally "drugged". Do not presume that every medication out there is bad - I am well aware of the ones that are. By assuming that all doctors and/or medications are bad (and yeah, there are some pretty rotten ones out there), you are potentially putting others in danger with your advice.

@vdaroju: speech delay alone is not enough for a diagnosis. However when there is speech delay, in conjunction with other indicators, then it can make for an autism diagnosis.

Your son being diagnosed, will have absolutely no negative effect on his potential job prospects when he is older. No prospective employer will have any access to his school or medical records, in any way shape or form. The only school records that are required are related to GPA - so usually a general transcript, and a copy of one's diploma. All other information is protected private information, and is not released. Your fears are completely unfounded in that area.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@Sephire; Have you seen this link ?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120803075244AADq3Zp.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

@sephira: okay. but is a perfect world one where every person in it is diagnosed as insane in some way, but has the perfect drug that fits his needs?

it is natural that one needs to pop pills every day of his life because of a 'naturally born' disorder?

i can just see it in 50 years. everyone is on drugs. and we are all very socially pleasant vegetables.

name 1 drug that finds the root cause of the disorder and cures it. that means he doesn't have to take the drug the next day.

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Sephira: 9 months ago

@joe - you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. When you have a child who is non-verbal, and needs constant supervision, and assistance with basic skills (and will need such for the rest of his life), you come back and talk to me about it.

Are there misdiagnosis and an over abundance of unnecessary medications being prescribed in some cases... yes, obviously. However there are also plenty of times that it is all very necessary. In this case treating cases of autism (or potential) autism - and we are not talking medication treatment, but things like speech therapy, occupational therapy, and physical therapy, etc... makes a huge difference in the child life, as opposed to just taking the "wait and see" approach. Medication is something that is used rather sparingly, as there is not an "autism" medicine.

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melian: 9 months ago

I think Joe here sound a lot like he knows what he is talking about. Why take a pill if there is no cure. It will only numb the true nature of the person. I like real people even if its not "normal". I have no autistic child but I know I would leave him be and except who he is instead of making him a fake by numbing and covering up his true nature.

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Sephira: 9 months ago

@melian - when medicine is prescribed for someone who is autistic, it's not being prescribed to "cure" the autism, it's being used to help minimize the repetitive behaviors, the debilitating meltdowns, the constant hair pulling, finger flapping, rocking, bouncing. It's helping to get their brain clam enough, so that they can focus on basic skills, or so that they can tolerate being in a public place. So that normal everyday sounds don't literally drive them crazy.

I'll be the first to agree that not all meds are good, however there are times when they are necessary. It's just important to do one's own research first, so that we are aware of the alternatives.

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melian: 9 months ago

Sure. I could agree with you. But hey, check out the above video (http://www.cchr.org/videos/marketing-of-madness.html) Its very helpfull. Did you see how much it helped Vdaroju. I just saw it and it is mind blowing.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@melian, Yes that video really helped me, specially my wife calmed down a bit after video.

@Sephira, I really do not see me child repeating things, if he finds a new thing he just repeats it for some time and moves to another one. We have lot of toys for him, he doesn't play with one particular toy one day one toy another day another one, but if we buy him new one, he plays with it for a while until he gets bored. So i am sure that my son do not need a medication for that. And my wife was so strong that, we should give him medicine, specially, when psychologist saw my child repeating 'fork' word and told us, your child should not be repeating that word so many times. Psychologist didn't even asked is this his first encounter with fork ?

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Sephira: 9 months ago

@melian - I am well aware of the dangers.... hence why doing personal research is important. What's not ok, is to dismiss a recommendation of meds our of hand, without weighing the pros and cons. In most cases if the benefits will far outweigh any negative side effects, then logic speaks to using the medications.

If it's the difference between being able to lead a somewhat normal life, or being practically catatonic... guess which one I'm going to choose.

@vdaroju - medicine is really not something that is used to treat autism, unless there are severe behavioral issues that are manifesting, so not sure what sort of meds your wife was thinking they would give him.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@Sephire: my wife was thinking about Homeopathy.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

the world seemed to get along quite well for the last 3000 years without psychotropic drugging... it's interesting that the schooling system is decaying in a remarkably coincident ratio to the amount of child drugging that is taking place... hmmmm.....

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

you mean the Homeopathy word ?, if yes, yeah it is a good one and interesting, take long long time to cure some problems. My own sister and brother had asthma from childhood, it took 5 years my brother to get out of that asthma problem, but for my sister it is 95% cured, she suffer's once in a year or two with sever asthama except that she is good, no medicine at all..

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forever_niall_sings: 9 months ago

There is no cure, just accept your son the way he is.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

Well, if there is no cure, is there any reason why autism ?
What about the guys who were autistic, before even finding autism, they are doing fine ? settled down.
Now that these guys found something called autism and label my son (that to, at age just below 3) with it, and future he is going to face problems because of that label where as the same kind of person was good before finding that label...? if you guys really want to research, just do not put autism or early intervention program stuff in his education records, until you find a cure for it.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

And i do accept my son is unique, but just do not want have a label in his education records...

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Sephira: 9 months ago

Having the diagnosis, can only help your son in this case. With it, you will be able to get the extra services he may need in order to succeed in school. Without it, he may find himself struggling.

Having that in his records does not affect one negatively, it's not like they will run around school telling all the kids that your child is autistic. You need to realize that (depending on where you child is on the spectrum), you have a very long road ahead of you, and you will want all the help you can get - from wherever you can get it from. Getting a diagnosis early, is one of the best things you can do, so you can start those early intervention programs. The earlier they start, the better the chances are of mitigating some of the more "troublesome" symptoms, and giving him the best possible chance at living "normally".

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

I do not have any issues with getting him early intervention or other other kind of treatments (not through drugs though), But i do not want to see those records on my sons education records. Because, i spent lot of time on reading autism, but the guy who is interviewing my son after 20 years, do not want to know he may just see my sons education record and say 'Oh this guy needed some help, back in his 10s, who knows what help he needs now' and just reject him with some other dummy reasons.....

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Sephira: 9 months ago

Um... a job interviewer will never see your child's school records, or medical records, unless for some reason your son gives them permission to look at them. In any case neither one would ever be used in the hiring process.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

Are you sure about it ? with education background verification, i am not sure some one will offer a high level jobs, i am not sure if you have seen what happen at yahoo 3, 4 months back. If the same thing happens again, i am sure every one will start education verification process.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

yes. whatever you do, don't get him into any sort of drug.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@joeblow123: No drugs specially for this one. Or any disorders, some times i think, this not a dis order this just a uniqueness of my child.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@Sephira: I do not want to happen following to my son, if he selects to go to some military service or something who requires this information. Please see this link

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120803075244AADq3Zp.

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Sephira: 9 months ago

@vdaroju - on the off chance that he would want a military career, you would risk your son's mental and physical health, by refusing to let him be diagnosed? What kind of parent doesn't want their child to get the best treatment possible?

If you are not comfortable with the diagnosis, get a 2nd opinion from anther qualified facility. Take him to Kennedy Krieger if necessary - as they are at the forefront of research on autism. Don't deny your son care, just because you are worried about the potential stigma his diagnosis might carry. If you care about him, that should be the least of your concerns.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@Sephira, thank for the suggestion, we decided to go for second opinion, after 2 months, mean while we join him daycare, to see if it improves his behavior, we will sure go for second opinion. What if the second evaluation results in different ?

What should i understand if the second evaluation results in not autistic child apart from first one was not a proper one, just curious... can we consider that my child case was due to my lake of parenting? I totally agree as he is my first child. Or you suggest something else ?

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@Sephira, Well, I was worried about education background if the diagnosis was wrong, but know one finds it. He does good, and let say eventually he is interested in joining military career, then i made him failed over there right ?

I say if some body needs early intervention, and autism doesn't have any confirmed treatment, specially research is going on, why are you stopping a person to fail automatically in some career ? Do you see my point ?

I do care my for my child and that is the reason i am here talking to people what is wrong what is right how should i proceed... I do not think i am doing wrong here.

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Sephira: 9 months ago

Like I said - get a 2nd opinion if you feel that the first one might be wrong.

Keep in mind though, by not getting him treatment early on, you could potentially harm his future career plans as well. So if he gets a diagnosis now, at worst he won't be able to have a military career, but he'll still be able to choose almost any other career he could possibly want. If he doesn't get diagnosed now, and doesn't get early intervention, he could end up having other significant delays are not addressed which could affect his schooling and all later potential career choices.

All I'm saying is that you shouldn't dismiss it out of hand, just because you are worried about one future career path. Have him evaluated further, then make a decision.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@Sephira, I thank you So much for talking time to answer my questions. I do know that having him in early intervention wouldn't make a major damage on his career, but i just wanted not to limit him in open opportunities. looks like there are career limitations by having early intervention in his records. But not joining him in early intervention may result in some more limitations.

anyway i will be going for another doctor/profession for second opinion.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

@joeblow123: thank you for your suggestions on medications, specially the video link. But i don't think my son needs a medication, if they prescribe one, i will reject it with out hesitation, no matter how strong it is.

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joeblow123: 9 months ago

@vdaroju: great! that's all I wanted to relay to you. anything else you do with your son is totally your choice. you are his father, right? but by keeping him away from any and all drugs, you are giving him so much more of a potential future.
not just in the goal of 'a perfectly normal person', but in terms of his own personality, creativeness, originations and drive for life.

i wish you and your family the best.

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Wolf_Larson: 9 months ago

I dont believe in mental disorders.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

Hmm... I Do. But not blindly, specially some research is going on, and they say 'some thing' also called mental disorder.

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Wolf_Larson: 9 months ago

Ok, well let me refrase myself.I do believe there could be situations that occur that woulod create a problem in someones behavior. But to handle that with a chemical pill. There is no proof that any "chemical imbalance" exists its only theory. To me its just a very dicy subject.

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vdaroju: 9 months ago

OK, let me tell you example, As you may know, a pain, feeling, watch and smell all senses are attached to brain and brain will decide how to react for that sense. So when some object hits you and causes slight skin cut open, as adult you might not scream a lot but a toddler will ... (screaming level may differ where that person is grown), but when you were given anesthesia (which is a chemical) you or a baby will not scream. So we can clearly say chemical is controlling brain and eventually how you behave to that skin cut, but when it comes to autism, science is still doing their efforts to help society, but mean while they are trying to help us what they know, some times it could fail some time it may not, it all depends on the doctor, how he learnt it, how he evaluated your problem and his experience and his/her.

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Wolf_Larson: 9 months ago

Interesting, I see your point.

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