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HI bellydncr, we have looked at his content but have found no violations with the community guidelines. Users are welcome to ask religious questions as long as they fit within the CGs. If another user would like to ask questions about other religions, they are more than welcome to. Ask.com does not discriminate against different religions. If someone asked a dozen questions about different cars, it would not be an issue.

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I asked a religious type question yesterday and it was removed.
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I suppose a veiled attempt at disguising pontification is not a community violation guideline. Would an agnostic, atheist or satanist have the same broad range? I doubt that.
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It looks like your question was removed because it was an opinion question, however I will clear it for you. Just be sure in the future to make sure questions you ask are not purely chatty/opinion based.
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I see. Disguise it as a question.
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I am agnostic, so I suppose I was looking for the "opinion" of religious people related to that specific question, but when it comes to religion, everything is an opinion if you really think about it, so by the CG's, shouldn't religious questions not be allowed? Thank you for clearing it Phoenix...like I said, I was looking for some "religious guidance" related to that question and was a little hurt it was removed, though I thought it was more ethical than opinion based. Isn't the question I often see on here "Is there a God?" an opinion question similar to mine?
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If it is a legitimate question, it can be asked. If you ask "Who here believes in God?!" Then that will not be allowed because that is just a survey/poll question. I don't think this would even be a question if they were asking about cars, movie, or plumbing. We allow any sort of religious questions as long as they are within the CGs
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@lynnElou, If you asked "Is there a God" it would probably be removed since that is an opinion based question (yes, I know that is arguable for some) but it can be argued back and forth and the only real answers are yes or no. If you have that sort of question you would probably be better off asking them to a religious leader/counselor who can answer all of that for you.
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Lynn, it's rather sad that you were asking a sincere question and it was removed. Perhaps we should study bobby123 to learn how to fly under the moderator radar.
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bellydncr, I am not sure why this seems to be a big issue for you, as I have said, bobby123's questions are not "flying under the radar" they simply did not violate the community guidelines. If you would like a refresher, here they are: http://www.ask.com/about/community/guidelines
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I believe I do understand the CG's, although they are not clearly defined...that's why we have you lovely Mods to make the call on what stays and what doesn't. I think if someone were to ask "What passage of the bible does this quote come from?" it would be fine, because the bible is a real and tangible item that can be referenced..."Is there a God?" is a borderline type of question, because so many people have different opinions about that, whether they base their ideas on something tangible, like the bible, or whether they don't believe at all. I'm sort of glad I don't have to make those calls, because I'm sure people are offended when their questions are removed, even if it's justified :/

And I disagree just a little...I've seen questions make it through like "Did anyone like the movie...?" or "What's the best chick flick?", which is purely asking for an opinion, though I've participated in answering those myself ;)
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Phoenix that seems a bit personal. Consider the guidelines.
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Thanks @lynnElou :) That's the problem with a lot of questions, especially the religious ones, it is a grey area, and in the end, the mods have to make the call to leave it or let it go, and we're going to make people mad no matter which way we go. We try to be consistent, but from mod to mod it might vary a little bit. We don't want to be tyrants and remove everything, but we do try to keep up the CGs in the community. I'm sure I could go through every user and point out low and high quality content, but we try to be fair with the content.

If something is up on the site that bothers you, you can click report and it will be sent to the mods, or you can write into customer service and ask about it. Or... ignore it. If it's against the CGs it will be removed, and yes sometimes we can miss things so that's when our awesome community members can come in and report it so it gets flagged for us, however if it is something you simply disagree with, as I think it is in this case, just try to ignore it.

It's like in Bambi. "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" :)
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@Phoenix, I've seen Is there a God? many times and have read through the arguments that follow...entertaining sometimes, but still people arguing about their opinions. I would never ask that question myself. Being agnostic means I admit that I don't know lol

@bellydncr, I agree that I often find myself rewording questions I have simply because I'm afraid they may be removed for one reason or another...whether it's because I'm looking for guidance on a subject (deemed opinion by some) or for some reason a little red flag goes off in my head while I'm typing saying "Ooooo, that's not going to be liked"...I try to be a good question asker and answerer in an effort to help combat some of the dumb questions/comments I see.
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No you are incorrect. That is not the case. Either a question is valid or an opinion is being offered via a disguised question. Let's not pretend this isn't happening.
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Practically all my questions & comments speaking about Pastafarianism has been removed. So, yes, this site is discriminatory against religions, apparently as long as they're not of Christian association. I also emailed Ask about it, since it is a legal religion, & they flat out ignored me.
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@bellydncr, Look, we try to do our best to keep higher standards on the site and to enforce the CGs. I'm sorry that you do not agree with 100% of the decisions on the site, but in the end, it is up to the moderators. As lynnElou said, the CGs are not 100% clear so it is up to the mods to interpret them as per our instruction. Some grey areas do get allowed with slight opinion based but we try to keep out the blatant violations. If you see THOSE, go ahead and report them. But in this case, I think it is best that you just ignore those questions.
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@Phoenix, I agree that there is a big difference between disagreeing and offensive. I don't flag often, but when I have, it was because I was offended by what I saw (or thought someone else might be...it's pretty hard to shock me lol). So I ask what I think is an ethical/religious question, but someone else sees it as me looking for opinions...we agree to disagree :) I don't really mind the "opinion" questions, but it is obviously the "opinion" of the remover whether it doesn't fit within the CG's...little ironic :P
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Phoenix your suggestion to ignore an issue doesn't resonate with me.
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Pastafarianism? I'm sooooo looking that up...never heard of it...
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Pastafarianism is a legal religion or a parody of Christianity? I've found conflicting opinions LOL
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@shhhmoonbeam, probably because it was seen as trolling since pastafarianism was created on the internet as a joke to mock other religions, and is based on worshiping a flying spaghetti monster. Taking that into account, that is why it was removed, because it was seem as being used to harass other religions.

@bellydncr what I'm saying is you are making an issue out of a non issue. The content you are complaining about is not in violation of the CGs.
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That sounds like an opinion. It also sounds like a scolding. I find that offensive.
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bellydncr, I've made my point. I really have nothing else to add to this.
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I agree. You don't.
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It STILL IS a legal religion, though. By me discussing my beliefs of The Flying Spaghetti monster is not me making fun of other religions. It's not fair to say that my things were removed because some other people find my religion offensive to their religion.
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Schmoonbeam, I like your style. Your religion makes more sense to me than what I see floating around this site. Glad to see you here.
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The only two things I learned from that WOFTAM (look it up) is that Christian preaching and intolerance will continue unrestrained on Ask, and that there really is a Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Here's a lovely BBC story about one of his believers.

AUSTRIAN DRIVER ALLOWED PASTAFARIAN HEADGEAR PHOTO

An Austrian atheist has won the right to be shown on his driving-licence photo wearing a pasta strainer as "religious headgear".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523
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Dozy..I tried to find WOFTAM in the dictionary (free app) and it wasn't listed...not to worry I have an idea what you meant.
You always have a gift for expanding the subject matter that makes for interesting and informative reading.
Great job! :)
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Thanks, Tex. If I can say it in Australian English, it's a Waste Of Flaming Time And Money...

Had you used Google's "define woftam" you'd have got it.
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Dozy... I removed your answer because not only was it not an answer, but it was extremely offensive on many levels.

For me, I haven't seen any religious intolerance preached on the site, if I had, I would have removed it. If you see such a thing, you can and should definitely click report and or send it into customer service and we'll take a look into it. We do not allow inappropriate content on the site from anyone, we are not religiously biased. I am sorry that you think that Ask.com only allows Christianity, but it looks like the people asking questions about that are more frequent than other religious questions. Let me remind you all that you only see what does make it onto the site, you don't know what we have already removed, so to say that we allow only a certain type of content or not is highly inaccurate.

I think there is a difference between asking religious questions and "preaching intolerance" so far I would actually say that you guys sitting here not wanting people to ask some questions about the bible is more religiously intolerant than anything I have seen on the site thus far.

Let me also say that personally, I am not even religious so I take no part or sides on any religion, and none of our mods moderate biased on personal feelings or opinions, so to say that Ask.com is slanted towards one religion is completely untrue, it is simply that the user base appears to have some christian members that are more vocal than others.
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Thank you for believing in FSM, Dozy!
Sieves & pasta for everyone!
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Phoenix, I'm sorry I didn't keep a copy of my answer. I'd love to know what was in it that was so inappropriate. I'm sure I didn't attack you or the other Mods since you have my full support.

Most of the time.

There are too many inconsistencies (for very human reasons) for me to approve all decisions.

OK, we'll bury my answer there. Thanks for taking the trouble to explain in such detail. It's appreciated.

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& thanks again, belly!
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Phoenix I thought you were done here? Please carry on, I'm sure your expertise is needed elsewhere. Dozy, I've never seen an inappropriate answer from you ever. Perhaps Phoenix is a candidate for more training.
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Bellydncr, I don't think you need to be hostile because I didn't give you the answer you want. I'm sorry you disagree, but I am trying to be as polite and helpful as possible, I am simply upholding the CGs and site rules as best as possible.
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@Phoenix: Thanks for sending me a copy of the question. Appreciated.
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pastafarianism? Shoot I'm still a frisbeterian. Man I'm soooo 1980's ....
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Hi Phil, You're a bit late for the party but are welcome as always. Fill your glass, pull up a laptop, and have at 'em...
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Phoenix, trust me. This is nowhere near hostile. Carry on.
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Hi bellydncr,

in the life& society category you're going to find different opinions and points of view on religion because that's what it is for is to have a forum for a question and answer session on any topic. I go into education category or science category or even pets/dog category and its the same. it is like an opinion pole. if you don't like that category then go into a different one and stay out of the religion category. you need to remember it's the web and those are other peoples opinions like it or not. It's kind of like television, if you don't like a program then change the channel. Besides this is AMERICA and everyone is entitled to their opinion whether you agree with them or not. that is why so many men and women died, so that we could have the freedom to speak out and present opinions and differences. i'm pretty sure that this isn't what you wanted to hear but it is my opinion. if i don't like a question asked i just skip it and the same goes with a category.
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I do not skip it. I address it. I refuse to run from controversy.
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Then quit your whining- no wonder women get a bad name!
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Iv it makes you feel better to degrade a woman that's your choice. I'm here, I'll comment where I like and to be honest- your opinion of me is irrelevant.
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Come on bellydncr, you can chim in at anytime in these topics. It's fun, have your say like the other atheists on this website who are bashing the other religious people. I'm not saying you should bash other religions but you should involve in these conversation. Maybe who knows you may one day acknowledge your God and believe in His last and final messenger prophet Muhammad. Just kidding i know you'll have something to say :p
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I repeat, I dislike the degrading way you have attempted to speak to me.
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I'm very sorry bellydncr as i didnt mean to offend or anything like that :)
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It's interesting the assumptions you all have made about me. Those of you who are religious have assumed I'm an atheist. I simply do not believe in organized religion or hell. Keep attacking. It reinforces to me that religion causes war, on small and large scales.
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I love how anyone not Christian is assumed to be Athiest. It's not one or the other, people!
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you can be a jew or a muslim too...who said only christian believe in god ?
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not to mentioned that we muslims and jews are more monotheistic then the christian because we believe in the same one god.
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I never assumed they were all Christians. I do see one similarity, they have zero tolerance for people who don't believe what they do. I am speaking only of those I have encountered on this site.
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actually bellydncr my comment was a reply to shhhhmonbeam
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If you'd like for Muslims & Jews to be lumped into that presumptuous category with Christians, then you asked for it.. But I usually get in the most scuffles with Christians.
This isn't about who is more monotheistic. It's about how most people who believe in one god seem to forget there are other religions besides them. Like polytheistic religions. Pagan, Wiccan. Then there is Buddhism. Hinduism. Jainism. Etc.
I'm extremely annoyed at the fact that if you don't believe in one mighty, powerful god, it is assumed you believe there is no god at all. People constantly assume I'm an Atheist. I'm really not.
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S. You couldn't be more right on this one. High five!
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Does it really matter? Nobody likes a tattletale.. we all know most of these moderators are conservative christians anyways, why r u surprised?

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Are you in kindergarten? I haven't heard an adult ever use that word.
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You hit that right on the head way to go
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@shibbq, I think that is not only an unfair statement, but completely untrue. Not all the mods are even christian, let alone conservative. Not that that matters, because we do not base our moderation of the site based on personal views.
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Phoenix did you notice the name calling?
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I hardly think "tattletale" is an offensive term... surely as an adult you can move past that. I would not classify that as offensive or harassing another user.
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My daughter is a tattletale and gets in trouble for it at school LOL

I believe shibbq used it as a noun, rather than name calling though...
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Daughter... child.... lol. I think adults can move past "tattletale" haha
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So Phoenix when you feel someone is offending you- you address it. However when it is an Ask user we are told to ignore it. I don't like the scolding nature of your comment.
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I didn't find that offensive, just plain incorrect. Making a statement like that about the mod team would possibly skew other user's ideas of the mods, and we are not religiously biased at all. I have endured a lot more than being called "tattletale" on this site. Again, as an adult, I can move past that. There is really nothing else to add to this, I hope you can move on and have a great day.
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I don't think that it would" skew" ideas that aren't already evident to the users.
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Bellydancer, if ur gonna act like a child i will refer to u as such.
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Why was shbiqqs comment not removed. I will launch a formal complaint. The attacks on this site are unwarranted and one sided. How do the moderators allow a member to tell me he will now " treat me like a child" ?
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The moderators don't care when the uncivilized non Christians are attacked.
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Oh yes since Christianity has been so civilized throughout history(refer to the crusades for just one of many examples). U don't surprise me ignorance and judgementality, are the staples of any good Christian.
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You said it not me.
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Hey, bellydncr, did you also try going to "report a problem" on the site about this? I've found that doing often gets more action. As for the comments you've gotten about community guidelines, I've seen an awful lot of nonreligious questions that are of the polling variety that stay up, even after I've flagged them as being against the guidelines. Good luck, I really hope someone takes you seriously on this one. When I want a bible study, I usually look in my church bulletin for a time & place, not online!

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Thanks coolmom, I do plan on it. I truly have no problem with different belief systems, I would feel the same with anyone else constantly using the site inappropriately.
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Freedom of speech!!!

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Interesting considering our disagreement on whether women need to be veiled or not.
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They must :D
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But like i said they also have their rights of worship. I pray to God.
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Pray to whenever you like. It will bd a cold day in hades when American women succumb to veils.
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Women must be veiled? That's ludicrous.
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Shhhmoonbeam, thank u. I'm glad you came here.
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So am I !!
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ignor it, don't get into it, do things you enjoy not whine about what you don't like no one wants to listen to your little sermons, sorry.

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You are being rude.
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I said i'm sorry.
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Sore loser!!!

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ShayJay-wasn't that interesting reading something from a whole year ago from this site??!! I could have sworn it was from an hour ago except that Bobby does not get on like he used to, so that part had me confused .
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Seriously shayjay, why would you comment on a question that is 18 mos old? Ridiculous. The problem of prostletizing continues but most of the old Ask preachers have left.
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LoL bellydncr same question why would you reply to an answer if its related to an old Question :)
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Because it Emma's originally my question and I was checking to see why someone would answer a question so old. Now that I see its nonsense it is of no importance. Carry on.
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Why thank you miss I shall carry on!
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@bellydancer-it was just interesting to see the community before I was here. I didn't think anything about anybody. There's got to be some light times once in ...oh forget it. It's not worth explaining.
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