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So i have some questions about evolution?

I try not be a close minded person. I dont want to shut people out without giving them a fighting chance. Ive heard a lot of people talk about how much sense evolution makes. So i read up on it. Only to discover that it didnt really ring any bells for me. I read that self replicating molecules added other genes to themselves or something like that. To create life forms. But if the molecules were self replicating, wouldnt they just continue to be molecules? I dont understand how something different could possibly come from something thats self replicating? And im confused as to how bacteria turned into other life forms. I do believe in adaptation. But i dont see how molecules or bacteria would be the maker of all human life forms? So what are the steps of this process? The self replicating molecules made what? Which then made what? And so on and so on until you get too humans? What evidence is there of this happening? Ive read that darwin himself didnt have full confidence in this theory. How do things acquire all of the needs for life by just developing from something else. I just have a lot of questions about this.

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Recently scientists were able to come very close to fabricating a self-replicating molecule - without outside intervention - and with chemicals scientifically believed to be present on our primordial earth, about 4 billion years ago. Was that life? A bunch of molecules that, obeying physical and chemical laws from the environment - began to self-replicate. This is called "abiogenesis". We are closing on reproducing the exact mechanisms that allowed inanimate matter become animated and developing. Scientists have also been able to create laboratory conditions that caused primitive cell membranes to form, along with primitive molecular mechanisms to transport other chemicals through these membranes. We'll soon have reproduced the mechanism for primitive life to form primitive proteins. As far as your other question - you're referring to how species evolve from other species. Evolution was already a known theory in Darwin's time - but the mechanism was unknown as well as how all species were related to each other. Darwin envisioned a "tree of life" with many branches, where mutations in replication caused the next generation to have survival benefits against a harsh environment - to stay alive long enough to reproduce - early reproduction was by prokaryotes - using binary fission. Cell components, like mitochondria, were most likely other organisms in symbiosis with the new lifeforms - trading energy for survival - eventually becoming part of the cell (mitochondria organelles have their own separate DNA). Keep in mind that every generation over millions of years produces a myriad of mutations - at the genetic level. Darwin suspected the mechanism, but it was much later that we discovered genes, genetics, variation, adaptation, and speciation. Go to Amazon and run a search on evolution and / or Darwin - for a more detailed explanation. Keep in mind that the religious will oppose your getting exposed to this research as it contradicts a fundamental, literal interpretation of the Bible - much easier to understand - you just have to surrender your intellectual curiosity and believe in the supernatural. Good luck with that.

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Wow! Thank you, again.
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I guess im asking for a more down To earth to the point Answer than that. Abiogenesis, prokaryotes, organelles and symbiosis are not words commonly used by most people unless youre extremely educated. So it becomes hard for the average guy to put all these things together. Not disrespecting your answer but i guess im looking for the basic idea and not all the scientific details.
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Rath: glad to help - I really haven't given you the exact details in the whole evolution of species by natural selection (and other pressures) here - but it's out there - despite the hyper-religious trying their best to confuse and keep scientific theories and evidence from you - the topic of evolution really sets them off - you would not believe to what extent they will try to discredit all of it - you'll get statements like - the earth is 6,000 years old - which is quite a claim since we've got cave paintings drawn by humans (we found their bones) that are over 10,000 years old. The 6,000 year number was invented by an archbishop named James Usher, who opened the Bible to Genesis and sat there, counting all the "begats" (generations) - not exactly a scientific process. This religious attack on scientific theory is called "creationism" - referring to the fable of Adam and Eve - and is hiding today under the name "Intelligent Design" to make it sound more scientific - it's not - it's not even good pseudo-science - it's just a story a two thousand year old guy - we're not even sure existed - came up with. Why do so many people believe this children's story? Because it was hammered into their heads when they were kids by adults - who also underwent the same indoctrination. Always stay skeptical.
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Im not questioning that some things in the bible sound pretty amazing. And sort of make you wonder if this is possible. But i think thats the case in any way you view creation. Sorta hard to believe one of my ancestors couldve ben a fish too ya know?
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Redsox: I wouldn't exactly call an ancestor a "fish" - that thought is repugnant to most people. You might think of it this way - a really long time ago - almost an unimaginable amount of time ago - we were not the species we are now - we kept advancing over millennia to more advanced lifeforms and more recently - we developed these huge brains that allowed us to dominate the planet. Another thing to understand is that many species developed parallel to us - but went extinct - we found another alteration in our humanoid branching about two weeks ago in Kenya - the fossilized parallel human has many of our features - but arranged slightly different - anthropologists are now trying to figure out why they went extinct while we survived. There may be a chance we murdered them off - Neanderthal fossils have been found with their heads bashed in - along with the killing tool - most likely used by our more hostile predecessors.
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Welcome to life 101 my friend. If we had all of the answers then we would be the Gods. Trust in faith and when you read something try not to take it so seriously. If you question something then read three different sources to see if they agree. Then believe only half of it. Good luck with the philosophical musings.

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Try not to take it so seriously? The origin and development of life - is not a serious subject? At least he has some intellectual curiosity - unlike those mired in childish fables that deny all contradictory evidence of their veracity. Encouraging a young, curious mind to stop thinking deeply is tantamount to child abuse.
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Tackling the issues that have cause men to go insane or kill over is not what I would call "light" reading. Young people should not have to worry about those things. Only through years and years of diligent study can one even begin to penetrate the mysteries of life. It's not all wrapped up with a nice neat little bow. My point is to study at a pace that will give you time to come to your own conclusions, not dive right into the deep end and then ask for some help. I could write a book myself on just trying to answer the question.
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look up mutations...

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I just went to a museum in ma they had a chart on evolution. facts are facts. I tend to belive in the hard core facts and still in something higher than myself.

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There may be some entity or entities that exist on some higher dimension or plane than we're aware of. Science doesn't speculate about the supernatural possibilities simply because no real evidence exists - only humans dire need to believe. Science concerns itself with evidence and what that evidence points to - and invites open investigation and challenges disproving, evidence based ideas. Religion knows everything about everything and so many of its claims have been just outright disproven - the real miracle of religion is that people will continue to believe not only without evidence - but with evidence that points to explanations of phenomena that carry evidence and are reviewed over and over - from every possible angle - by brilliant minds - often for decades. Religion does not permit such inquiry and threatens those that do with eternal damnation in a fictional afterlife invented by ancient men to scare people into servility.
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exelent! well put!
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The theories you are talking about are called "abiogenesis" but nobody has demonstrated this in a lab so far. There are many competing theories and no reason to accept any particular one right now.

Evolution deals with things that can reproduce and pass traits to their children.

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Check out the TED Talks on this research - scientists actually demonstrating non-random behavior or primordial molecules that form matrices that are pre-cursors to self-replication and primitive energy metabolism. They're closing on true abiogenesis.
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TED's search engine totally sucks. Do you have a link or at least a name?
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Nothing is ever exactly the same in nature. There is always a range, and any kind of feature of any being will appear within a range. For example .. height, the length of a limb, the strength of your eyes, etc.
A being can inherit such features from its parents.

So .. if a feature .. however small .. by chance is different enough from the majority of the population, and also gives an advantage to the being then that being and others like it .. will have a better chance of survival or breeding than similar beings with more normal traits, and that feature may be passed on to children.

Over a very long time this can lead to totally new features .. or even a completely different species.

examples:
1) fins of an early fish became large and strong enough to support the body allowing the creature to walk .. eventually becoming legs of a later creature that left the water and walked on land
2) light sensitive membranes of an early creature developed over millenia into fully functioning eyes of later creatures
3) posture and limbs changed allowing a early land creature to stand upright on two legs

etc

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We did not evolve from apes. Trust me!

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To each his own!
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The evidence for it is overwhelming. Can you refute it, or have evidence for the contrary!
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Correct. Apes and humans both evolved from the same common ancestor, the so-called missing link.
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I love Lucy.
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Those above have detailed already so I'll give you the 6th grade basics. Single celled organisms became vertebrates( a backbone/spine) those diversified, some ventured on land and became amphibians(frogs) those changed more and some became birds, reptiles mammals and dinosaurs. Some were evolutionary dead ends and others continued to evolve, eventually apes evolved in the mammal family and diversified, one branch became the Homo family and evolved into homo-sapians(us). What you have to grasp is the time, 3,800,000,000 years have passed since this began, homo-sapians have been around for about 500,000 years, civilization has existed for some 8,000 years a human life lasts around 80 years. divide 3.8 billion by 80, this will give you an idea of the vast amount of time involved.

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They can't - it's a simple as that. In order for this to happen, we have to get the right amino acids - this has never happened. Then these amino acids have to make DNA - but we can't even get the right amino acids. An interesting thing about DNA is that it is a kind of code that biologists are just beginning to crack. DNA is, basically, a language. Language only comes from intelligence. It's been estimated that all the information in your DNA, three feet of it in every one of the trillions of cells in your body, were written down, that it would fill the Grand Canyon with books, 500 pages each, multiple times. Get some monkeys together with typewriters sometime and try to fill that many books with a sequence of letters that make a language - it's never going to happen. After we get the information, we have to get a cell. (See Comments)

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A cell is irreducibly complex, meaning you can't take away anything, or it will cease to be a living cell. It's been estimated that for this to happen by chance, the chances are 1/10 to the 200 power. That's far beyond the Law of Probablity which states that anything beyond 1/10 to the 50 power will never happen. You know what I think? I think that it is far more logical to believe that God, the God of the Bible who created all things, created life. Furthermore, we see animals change withing their kinds. This means that we see dogs change, but they're always dogs. We see flies change, but they're always flies. It has never, ever been demonstrated that one kind of animal can change into another. Darwin was skeptical about his theory for multiple reasons. He knew that there was a lack of fossil evidence, and there still is - he even said that this was probably the most grave thing against his theory. He said that there should be millions of intermediate links. How many do we have? Only a handful of highly disputed ones. He knew that if it could be demonstrated that something was so complex that it couldn't have possibly came into existence on its own then his theory was wrong. Years later we were able to see inside a cell, and what did we find? Something that was so complex that it couldn't have possibly came into being on its own. He saw things change within their kind, like his finches. But he never saw one kind change into another. Things have never been demonstrated to change in the way that macroevolution requires, and until it is, I will continue to believe the Bible, especially Colossians 1:15 which says that "all things were created by Him..."

Hope this helps - Zack
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God: we're just beginning to crack the human genetic code - wrong - the Human Genome Project was completed in 2003 - I worked with a lead scientist on the effort -Jane Reese - who is also a college textbook publisher and went on to research e.coli. The Project mapped about 20,000 - 24,000 genes - we all thought there would be much more - there are plants with more. We have now identified a significant number of genetic markers that indicate a predisposition to various aspects of individual biology: "genotypes" - only a small percentage of the DNA strand is directly involved with direct expression - most of the strand is involved with timing mechanisms, protein production, and gene expression: phenotypes. We can now accurately predict risk factors for several major diseases such as CHF and take preventive action to prevent expression from occurring. Darwin: he was not at all skeptical about his conclusions - he delayed publishing -one reason - because of his wife - a devout Christian - he knew his findings would embarrass her among her fellow mythologists - ironically, when Wallace had come to similar conclusions, his wife supported his publishing of "On The Origin of Species". Darwin was long dead before the actual biomechanics involved in replication with variance - favorable or not - to survival - to reproduce - was discovered: genetics. Huge labs worldwide are continually decoding the human genome - a whole new industry of pharmacological genomics has arisen where medications can be administered to specifically treat aberrant gene structures that give rise to disease. When you're going to argue for creationism disguised as intelligent design - don't attempt to take on the hundreds of thousands of brilliant researchers in evolutionary science and genetics by dismissing every discovery - many now used clinically to treat ill humans - with a childhood fable you so desperately cling to - science involves education and intellect - two enemies of dogmatic retrograde religions.
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"It's been estimated that for this to happen by chance, the chances are 1/10 to the 200 power."

Estimated by who? Using what method? This is science; please cite references or show your work.
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You will NEVER get a straight answer. For me Creation and Evolution are not mutually exclusive - I just watch the conflict from the sidelines and applaud when someone says something intelligent. Which is a RARE event....

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Cell->bacteria->slime->slime worms->worms->fish->lizards->dinosaurs->all kinds of dinos->all kinds of animals (incl.humans). Read some articles about the evolution of the whale, they were land animals at first.

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So people evolved from worms? And why did the whale end up being a sea creature if it was a land animal?
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Noooo it's not like that people didn't evolve from chimps but we both share a ancestor that was nether human or chimp
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There's no more food on land for the land animal so it went down to sea.
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If you believe adaptations then evolution is just a long process of adaptations , the originally single cells that when tried to reproduce stuck together they became better at surviving so more of them came around , and so forth , look up why you should always finish your antibiotics ,

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You are wise to question. Truth is never afraid of questions. Your textbook will present one view based on naturalistic evolution. For some reason, this view hates to be questioned. Consider this question.

The Cambrian explosion, which apparently is not being taught in science class, or it would raise legitimate skepticism.
As one author has stated, assume the entire history of the world (use 3.8-4 billions years) on a 24-hour clock. For the first 21 hours, only single-cell life is found. Suddenly, in the equivalent of 2 MINUTES, a variety of complex life forms appeared. Yes, in geological terms, the Cambrian explosion is very very short. And still puzzling to paleontologists and biologists worldwide. And it is certain Darwin himself would be even more puzzled today than when he called the Cambrian explosion an inexplicable mystery. Paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould said, "Nothing distressed Darwin more than the Cambrian explosion." Even atheist R. Dawkins admits, "it is as though they were just planted there, without any evolutionary history."

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According to Stephen Jay Gould, who took the time to read Darwin's journals, Darwin claimed that nature makes no sudden leaps; and if the fossil evidence showed the sudden appearance of various life forms, then that would be evidence of special creation. To those who 'pretend' to want 'evidence' of a Creator, try looking at the creation itself. The Cambrian explosion reveals a sudden appearance of organisms with developed spinal cords, eyes, and the basic body shapes still found today.
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I love this statement by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, "without gradualness...we are back to a miracle." He understood Darwin's dilemma and Darwin himself once remarked that if the fossil record continued to uphold sudden appearance of different phyla, then that would be a genuine argument against his theory. So be it; 150 years later the evidence is even more imposing against transitional forms and supporting sudden appearance.
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Evolutionist want 4 billion years; but let's look at the math.
Doug Axe, molecular biologist, wrote an article for Journal of Molecular Biology, detailing his research of the odds of a DNA producing amino acids producing a working protein based on random mutation and selection. He estimated the odds at 1 in 10 to the 74th power. Trillions and trillions and trillions, much longer by many orders of magnitude than any accepted age of the earth, much less the time of the Cambrian period. And that is just one protein. There is more information necessary to produce a complex organism. Simply put...it is not only improbable but impossible and totally illogical.
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Thanks for your smart...aleck...contribution?? Haha. You have no idea how to read with understanding.
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As one great teacher has profoundly explained, "Telling is not teaching; listening is not learning." My point specifically used the word 'taught' for a reason. I did not imply that students have not heard of the Cambrian explosion. The big question is, 'are they being taught to think' about those things that they are hear. This should have been my first response to your comment; I apologize.
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Okay, we can apparently go no further. "Telling is not teaching; listening is not learning." when it comes to spiritual matters, that maxim is evident every day on Ask.com. Atheists held a 'day of reason' in Washington, yet when debating they often refuse to reason; they predictably attack the messenger when they can not refute the message. I pray neither of us end up so biased that we don't want to be 'confused with facts.' I hope we both continue to seek truth and remain teachable.
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