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Last edited at 8:20PM on 8/21/2012
Let me tell you a story. Two Jews come to see the rabbi before Yom Kippur. The first one says, "Rabbi, what should I do? My whole life I kept the Torah and obeyed all the mitzvot, but just one time I did this one horrible thing, and hurt this man in a horrible way. It was a very serious transgression, how do I atone for it? It was such a heinous violation, is there even a way for me to atone?" The second Jew said, "Rabbi, I never did anything as bad as what the first man said. But all my life I did small things: offended people here and there, but nothing really very bad. How do I atone? Surely it can't be too hard, as all those were small, insignificant transgressions." The rabbi thought for a moment and said: "You both go to the field. The first man bring back with you a boulder as big as your offense. The second man, you fill up this sack with small pebbles and small stones, that represent your many small transgressions." The two men returned, each did exactly as the rabbi told him to do. The rabbi looked at them carefully, and then said, now each of you go back to the field, and put back everything you took exactly where you took it from. The first man had no trouble remembering where he took the big boulder from, and did that quickly. The rabbi told him, "The same way you put the boulder back, go back to the person you offended, and mend it." The second man said, "Rabbi, I can't remember where each little stone came from." The rabbi replied, if you cannot remember who you offended, you do not know whom you should ask forgiveness from. Yom Kippur atones only after you have satisfied the person you offended." I think the morals are clear.
That's pretty much exactly what happens in prison. People do what they want, get caught and learn that if they follow a certain book that all their "sins" will be forgiven and they will go to heaven. You found the loop hole, congrats.
You don't choose when you come to God. God chooses you. And you can be a follower of God and still sin. I'm a believer of God and I sin daily. But if you repent of your sin. You will always be a child of God no matter how much you sin.
Sure you can you can do anything you please , I suggest you think about it first , if you had a son and he would tell you the same thing "dad can I do anything I want till I'm 80 and then can I be good " what will your answer be?
We will all face God's judgement. He knows our heart and our intent. I really doubt that on judgement day it's going to be about technicalities. If our intent was to deceive that is how we will be judged. If we didn't come to a sincere testimony until we are 80, that is how we will be judged. You can't trick your way out of Devine judgment. Personally I'll gladly face God's judgement, because the silliness I'm hearing by so many of these self appointed judges would make me too confused to know what to do if I trusted to their wildly varying opinions.
32 For behold, this life is the time for men to prepare to meet God; yea, behold the day of this life is the day for men to perform their labors.
33 And now, as I said unto you before, as ye have had so many witnesses, therefore, I beseech of you that ye do not procrastinate the day of your repentance until the end; for after this day of life, which is given us to prepare for eternity, behold, if we do not improve our time while in this life, then cometh the night of darkness wherein there can be no labor performed.
34 Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful crisis, that I will repent, that I will return to my God. Nay, ye cannot say this; for that same spirit which doth possess your bodies at the time that ye go out of this life, that same spirit will have power to possess your body in that eternal world.
For full disclosure: this is not a Bible quote, it is actually from the Book of Mormon Alma 34:32-35. If you not Mormon just think of it as a quote from a book for spiritual poetry.
You have to believe in heaven and hell in order to get in... I say as long as you don't hurt others or their families you will be in a good place when you die. But being nice to people random or friends does make your spirit feel good. I don't believe in heaven or hell but I know I will be at piece with myself when I die.
Jesus told a story of a man who owned a vinyard and he went out in the morning to hire laborers and they agreed to work for the day for a penny the owner then went again at noon and got more workers and they agreed to work for a penny and then the owner went again at like four and hired more laborers for a penny and when it was time to get off and get paid the workers who agreed to work all day for a penny were angry because the workers who only worked a half a day and the ones who were hired at four received the same pay salvation is yours no matter how long you wait just acknowledge Jesus as the son of God who came and shed his blood as payment for your sins in romans it says that all who call on the name of the lord Jesus will be saved confession is made with the mouth unto salvation but it is a personal relationship with Jesus that will start a change of heart you will become a new creation you will not want to sin anymore
It's the heart that God is concerned with. If you feel truly sorry for your sins and you want to know Jesus, that is something He listens to. Your age should not be the only factor, but your age should not stop you either. The Bible states of God, "If any man come unto me, I will in no wise cast him out". He will see our heart and hear our cry when we are sincere. Just be honest before Him in prayer as if He were sitting right there in front of you. He does listen and He does respond. Find a good church and if you will be around other christians it will also be uplifting. When we repent of our sins and accept Salvation through Jesus Christ because His Sacrifice made way for us to come to the Heavenly Father, God does forgive and we are then, new in the Lord. All sins are forgiven and we can and should tell someone of this new experience. Read the Bible, pray and thank God for what He has done and is doing and fellowship with others and grow in your new life, blessed by God. Eighty is definitely not too old. If you feel now at 80 that you want to know Jesus, then, you can be sure, He wants to know you as His Child. God Bless You!!
This is exactly the type of legalistic babble that religion makes people waste time on. You could be in the world enjoying you life and being yourself and a good person but instead your brooding over the cheapest way to get into heaven. Religion is for schemers scheming their way into heaven and running from the fear of eternal damnation. Some people will take this thought and run with it because they know when they are 80 some nooby indoctrinate will come knocking at their door with some good news.
1 year ago
Last edited at 4:17AM on 8/22/2012
In my opinion. If this is your outlook then you wouldnt accept Jesus as your saviour anyway. I dont believe you can plan on being a sinner your entire life and try to sneak your way into forgiveness.i believe Jesus would know whether you were truely sorry or not.and how seriously you were taking things
Certainly people can become christians at the end if their life but unless they really mean it it wont happen. At this very moment God already knows the falseness of your heart and He will know it then as well so in your case i would say 'no' unless you have a true and serious change of heart. You cant fool God.
The Bible warns us concerning the brevity of the human lifespan. "You are just a vapor that appears for a little while and then vanishes away" (James 4:14). We are not instructed to consider converting someday, but to believe today! "Today if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts" (Hebrews 3:7-8, 14; 4:7). None of us knows how much time we have left in this life or what the circumstances of our death will be. The only reasonable option is to repent and believe in Jesus Christ today. Many people die without having the experience of an extended amount of time on a death bed. Many people die instantly and unexpectedly, with no opportunity to trust in Christ. 2 Corinthians 6:2 declares, "In the time of my favor I heard you, and in the day of salvation I helped you. I tell you, now is the time of God's favor, now is the day of salvation."
1 year ago
Last edited at 8:15AM on 8/22/2012
Oh, yes!! Very much so!! That's the FUN part of Christianity. It teaches that you can be forgiven from the sky for all your lifelong crimes and evils, if you ONLY subscribe to its impossibility. It forgets that history has proved time and again that personal morality cannot survive where people believe in divine forgiveness, believe in the absurdity that some "higher power" can remove the guilt from the guilty, without removing the wrong from the victim.
Yes, you can accept Jesus anytime you want - even when you're 80. But, here's the problem, you are not guaranteed tomorrow and if you're unsaved when you die you're on a one way ticket to Hell. You have no idea if you're going to live to be 80, so why not accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour right now? Or would you rather take the chance of spending eternity separated from God and not get saved until you're 80? You could die before then, Jesus could come back, so why are you waiting?
you may never make it to 80. you may even die tomorrow. you only have now. NOW is the time of salvation. by the way you will have a crappy life not knowing god and spending time getting to know his awesomeness.
Why would you wan't to do this?! You are sinning by will, and if you really want to accept him as your saviour, why not do it now? Why live a worthless life of sin and ignorance when you can live it to the max in God, without needing to result to sinning? Besides you don't know when He will come back or when you will die! By playing this "sin game" you'd be risking your salvation for sins and you'd spend your eternity suffering just cuz you waned to enjoy your short time on Earth. GBY
Let's say I find this wonderful, incredible woman. She's stunningly beautiful. She's as sweet as apple pie. She's got personality like I've never seen before. She's the most perfect woman I've ever met. I go to her and I say, "I'd like to marry you. I'd be the luckiest man in history if you said yes." Then I add, "But first, I'd like to spend the next 40 years playing the field, enjoying other women, partying, etc. Then I'll come back and find you and we'll spend the rest of our lives together. How's that sound?" Ludicrous, eh? Why would you choose an empty, sordid life full of regrets when you can start enjoying a relationship with a God that loves you right now?
Hebrews 10:26 says:"For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left." Acts 3:19 encourages us to "Repent, therefore, and turn around so as to get your sins blotted out." Why would one want to go to heaven if they enjoy a life full of sin? Heaven is for the righteous! Individuals who have righteous thoughts, followed by righteous words, and righteous actions to back all of it up. Anyway, when Adam & Eve sinned (condemning the world of mankind to sin and death), they didn't burn in a fiery place of torment. Genesis 3:19 says "for dust you are and to dust you will return." If anyone was deserving of eternal torment, I would think it would be them! And no where in the bible will you find that that was their judgment.
Yes. God has mercy on us all. It seems like you want to except him only because you don't want to die and go to hell though. Don't let that be your motive. But yes you still can be saved as long as you're alive. The message of salvation is Acts 2:38. So you have to repent for you sins, be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and recieve the gift of the holyghost, which is speaking in another tongue. God comes and lives inside of you :) Live for God.
1 year ago
Last edited at 7:10PM on 9/2/2012
Why would you want to miss out in all of His wonderful mercies and blessings throughout this life that he will fulfill you with? You are playing with a very serious thing. My sister tried to do that, however satin had a hold of her too tight and her time was too short. She died of a drug overdose at the age of 43, two months ago. She had just started going to Church to seek God, for she knew right from wrong, and chose the wrong path making her life a disaster and full of despair. Do not try to play with God and His word. If you belive in God at all, you already know the answer.
Knowingly, or unknowingly, we all commit sins, with varying magnitudes. If, a person, doesn't believe in, or accept, GOD, then, that's his or her Fate. Because, one washes away, one's sins, by praying the GOD, and by other good deeds, and shapes the fate of his or hers next birth or the very next birth itself. Hence, when a person attains the mental or the needed spiritual maturity, finally to accept, GOD, without any preconditions or reservations, his sins are getting reduced gradually.And, if in the present, birth its not coming to Zero, it gets carried over to the next birth, added to the Karmas of that next birth. Thats the reason, different personnel have different ways of life.So, one can never commit sins and walk away, scot free, but, God will give chances or oppurtunities, to realise one's mistakes or sins, and to make it even, and to finally merge with Him.
Being saved isn't just getting yourself out of Hell. Everyone sins, Christian or not. Im a born agin beliver and i still sin. Its human nature. But accepting Jesus as your Savior isnt truely being saved if you are just doing it to get out of hell. If you truely loved God and believed that He sent His sln to die for you, you wouldnt even be asking that question, because your passion for Him would make you want to live your life for Him.