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Why not Lucifer?

Does he not make a great case for : ambition, self improvement, equality, rebellion, intellect, liberty, enlightenment, tenacity, ingenuity, integrity and personal sovereignty? Civil disobedience won African Americans their rights from tyranny. Same goes for Indians with Gandhi's disobedience. A strong intelligent leader with a mind for making the order of things better by way of rebellion; bypassing the bureaucratic riff raff designed to shield the wicked from justice, Lucifer, stands to shine a light of guidance towards civil justice so why reject the only spirit that has the power to overcome the tyranny of the too powerful that are in power?

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First, I don't believe the popular notion of Lucifer. Isaiah 14 refers to Babylon as the morning star, which for some reason is translated as Lucifer in the N/KJV. That Lucifer didn't stand up and spite a higher power--it was the highest power on Earth but fell to corruption. You can see why some would interpret this as an alegory referring to a fallen angel, but really it's the other way around. Lucifer refers to Babylon. Babylon doesn't refer to Lucifer. But for a moment let's assume the popular presumption of Lucifer is reality, and I'll speak of the alegory as reality. Lucifer was the second-in-command, in charge of the Hosts of Heaven. His rebellion was not one motivated out of a desire to help those under himself. It was motivated out of a sense of personal inferiority, of being less than a perfectly created tool. He didn't want equality; he wanted superiority. He didn't want to use his position of power to help others. He wanted it for himself. His rebellion was motivated by the same desires that fueled Hitler's regime, not the French Revolution or even the Pax Romana. Yeah, he worked for a dictator, but truly benevolent dictators are the best types of rulers. The problem with humans is that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Because we end up using it for our own ends. This is why benevolent dictators such as Napoleon eventually fall. But if a deity is good, and if a deity is true to its word, then there is no reason to rebell. Sorry, but Lucifarianism only works with corrupt political governments (even ecclesiastical governments). Lucifarianism doesn't survive as a theistic religion unless your faith is in a petty deity only interested bolstering its own power at the expense of others.

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I disagree. Yes it is useful when dealing with corrupt political powers. Luciferianism is a motivation for personal justice. It is self serving but in the kind of self serving that helps everyone. One free of political oppression leads to more once the gate is open. It directly combats dictators like hitler with a desire to rule better. Hitler was not just. It's about independence from tyranny not the creation of it. It works as a tool no doubt but theistically I see functionality. Obviously you disagree and that's fine, I respect that. I don't think it's petty to want to liberate yourself from tyranny and be your best self.
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That's not petty. It's the deity that is petty if you cannot be your best self while in its service. It works fine in theism for petty deities.
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But that is the spirit of the deity. I don't think it's petty at all.
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The basic claim of the Bible, should one choose to accept it, is that the God of the Bible is above such pettiness. He is the only deity who has been faithful to humanity by acting in their best interests. The Bible doesn't disavow the existence of other gods. It simply shows how its God is different and thus the only one worthy of following. In its viewpoint, all deities are petty except YHWH. Thus, since YHWH is true to his word and his people, he is worthy of our devotion. I'm not suggesting you should accept this as reality, but it is the claim the Bible makes. For one to oppose this deity is to oppose his intent to look out for the best interest of humanity, and thus such opposition should not be revered.
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My interpretation varies slightly. God or yahweh seems to be most petty of any deity I have read about. Eternal torture because you wont believe ridiculous doctrine? I do not see any more a petty act. A deity that would rebel against such tyranny could not be opposition to the greater good- it would be the greater good.
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With all the propaganda the Christian Church has used to twist people into embracing their authority, I can see why you would believe that. If the Bible speaks to an unending afterlife for the unrighteous (which is debatable), it simply accepts the then-contemporary worldview that "life" as a shade is undesirable, but it contrasts that worldview by saying that even as a shade, there is hope for life-to-come. Any concept of eternal torture is raping the text and impregnating it with the seeds of our Western imagination in a desire for selfish power, and unfortunately our bastard idea has grown into becoming a legendary antichrist perceived to be our salvation.
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I see you deeply think about things rather than use a reactive mind towards them. The text is corrupt. I don't think it matters anymore because something corruptible could never be a deities words unless the desired outcome was corruption in which case makes the script even more suspect. Maybe at one time the bible had it's place but now it just makes sociopaths.
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Why not God?

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true!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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What's true? He asked a question. Why god? He is a tyrant that will flay the innocent and condemn them to eternal suffering for having a thought he doesn't like.
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joshuabagel
Very true
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Truth, he only condemns those who choose to be condemned
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Josh incorrect. He damns those unable to believe. This is no choice. He is a tyrant.
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joshuabagel
Not going to argue with straight up ignorance...
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go with god my friend

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I'd rather rake my face with a scalding iron. Thank you though.
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I guess we will find out the right side in the end.
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We will be dead by the end my friend but it's up to us whether others will suffer or not.
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I'm not following, how exactly is it up to us?
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I think your a bit young to understand but when you are a man you will realize that you are responsible for your actions and those actions effect the world of man.
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Because I want to live and not die.

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We all die. Don't let books dilute you.
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I die on this earth but will live forever in Heaven.
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You do not believe in God correct? But you believe in Lucifer, Lucifer was one of God's angels who went against him because of pride. Hence since Lucifer exists so does God. And God has already beaten Lucifer.
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Who told you I believe in Lucifer?
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LOL.... if you want lucifer as a spiritual leader then go ahead.

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He is but I was asking you?
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no thanx. I don't need a spiritual leader.
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Understandable.
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Because too many people have jesus shoved down their ear starting from the very day they're born and when they get older it is too late for them to comprehend the possibility that god might not exist and they think that god is absolutly real when it's really all in their minds.

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I guess so. These people wont even consider a champion of justice because their god condemns him. We are surely doomed to slavery at this rate.
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Thank you!
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It is brainwashing and a way to control the people.
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Exactly.
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I agree
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Read somewhere he loses
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Yes deb lets all cheer for justice to lose
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Gandhi won Independence for India, through non-violence, negotiations with Britain and hunger strikes for the good of all people. The only dissonance was to Britain which had no rights to own India in the first place. Maybe clarify the facts before looking for more minions ; ,

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This was all done through civil disobedience. In an event that would have dramatic repercussions for the people of India, Mohandas K. Gandhi, a young Indian lawyer working in South Africa, refuses to comply with racial segregation rules on a South African train and is forcibly ejected at Pietermaritzburg. This was only his first act of civil disobedience. Maybe you should do a little research before you defame great acts.
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Carter, let's not spread ignorance. Look into the facts before you mindlessly recite them.
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I think I'll choose GOD that ""CRUSHES HIS HEAD""
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So the Lord God said to the serpent, "Because you have done this,
"Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life. (Genesis 3:14 NIV)
--And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will CRUSH your head,
and you will strike his heel." (Genesis 3:15 NIV)

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Funny how none of this checks out in reality.
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Yahweh is a coward and a jelous one. As impotent as he is immature. Lucifer left and yahweh still can't get over it- had to write a book just to slander. Pathetic really with such empty words.
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Depends Upon Who
Is Actually Doing
The Checking.
Deceiver or
Believer.
Oops!
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And a great challenge it is to discern between them.
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magdalene
thespang, I left you some comments under your answer on the question about empathy. Just thought I would comment here and let you know that cause I don't think you may have seen them. Thanks and God Bless!
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magdalene
Green for your answer spang.
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Violence becomes a god like children to a molester. 'Crushes his head' is a great representative for the monster god from the bible. I could have illustrated his form of compassion no better.
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True, He Is A God Of Great
Love; B u t, Similar To A
Parent /Child Relation-
ship, The Parent Will
C r u s h The Bad
Monster To Pro-
tect H I s
Child.
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Ty ;) mag.. I answered you a really long reply on a recent.? And I can't find it now :-/ ...
I'll reply under empathy again ..
Love you my sister.
@psalm Ty dear
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Truth .. Your maturity reminds me of a elementary school when a child would be called down for his antics by his peers and the child would place his thumbs in his ears with his tongue sticking out in a taunting fashion..
This seems to be the same hear in your case.
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Very Good,
Blessings
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Very true psalm ;)
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You say that a lot spang. It's almost like a projection of self. People have a tendency to put their own demons on me and I think this is no different for your demons are children that wont listen. I've grown my demons but yours are definitely as mature as yahweh.
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Truth at some point you have to grow up and put away childish behaviors and sarcasms. I hope you do before it becomes a "permanen" reflection of you.
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He cant see his reflection.... He threw away his mirror, remember?
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amen spang
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Spang
Your patronizing tone saves you no face.

Tori
Still have the mirror up in my bathroom
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Maybe that's it..
I give a "truthful rebuke" you say "patronizing"..
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It Is A Matter Of Preference. P I c k
The One Who Is Comfortable With
The End Justifies The Mean;
Or, P I c k The One Who
Means Justice and
Free Choice For
All Mankind.
Why Knot
Choose
Life.
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Scripture Quote
----------------------------------------------- Children, stay one in your hearts with Christ.
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Then when he returns, we will have confidence and won't have to hide in shame.
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You know Christ always does right and everyone who does right is a child of God. (1 JOHN 2:28, 29 CEV)

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chirst dose every thing righ haha and he dose not mean justice and free choice free choice implys leting u think for your self and that he dose not if u think differently from that book and its backwater thinking u go to hell and why dont u use your life for somthing meaningful instead of living in your pipe dream
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Hi WitchyGirl888, That's Your
Comment /Opinion a n d
Y o u Have A Right
To It. Love and
Blessings.
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Very green psalm...
-- it appears some people are filled to the rim with hate.. Very sad
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S a d; ; But T r u e, When
Squeezed, Whatever Is
Inside Will C o m e
Gushing O u t.
Lemonade
Please.
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I agree witchy. Christ is elitist and mean hearted
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@truth only one that's been mean in these comments to everyone has been you. I would correct your self before you hypocritically correct Christ
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Toriwise1, Speaking
Truth To The Glory
a n d Honor of
God. Thank
Y o u.
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Yahweh is the one who thinks the end justifies the means. He killed millions in a flood because they disobeyed him. He destroyed two cities because he had a different opinion on what was sexually moral. Lucifer believes in free thought and choice. He had eve eat the apple so she could have free thought.
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tori
I have not been mean to any person who it was not merited. I make a point to not attack people for their beliefs- something many christians seem to not have a problem with at all.
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I'm Staying Put, Sticking
With The One Who
Cast The Rebel
Lucifer O u t.
Same Ole
Lies.
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A war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels were fighting against the dragon and its angels.
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But the dragon lost the battle. It and its angels were forced out of their places in heaven and were thrown down to the earth.
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Yes, that old snake and his angels were thrown out of heaven!
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That snake, who fools everyone on earth, is known as the devil and Satan.
-Revelation 12:7-9 (CEV)
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If you wish to worship Lucifer, then go for it! I am sure that it is just as rewarding. I don't know what the benefits are, though~do you get eternal life as a worshipper of the Devil?

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Eternal life is for no one. It's an empty promise as you will find the many christians now inhabiting graveyards unable to tell you of their 'eternal lives.'
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agreed we all die the same
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There have been people who have gone to Heaven and to Hell and now tell their stories.
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And yet eternity is so short is it not seeing as how they have returned?
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why not the goddess lol just jokeing i respect ur views idk why not its hard to believe in him when u dont believe in christan god

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I see your point. I appreciate the spirit of Lucifer not really the deity itself.
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The bible is a fixture in our society and when I believe Lucifer wants free of it's pages as much as he would like to see the bible disappear. The thing about truth is that it exists without indoctrination and Lucifers spirit exists when we need it too. As long as the bible is here we will have an angel of light to push the injustice of bible into the darkness where it belongs.
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I love reading about fictional stories in bible

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Me too. Lucifer is my favorite cuz he's a rebel to the bad guys XD
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Everything Lucifer offers God does as well with the addition of eternal life. Lucifer only offers eternal damnation and a stay in Hell. If you believe in Lucifer then you believe he rules Hell.

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This is not necessarily true. It's my understanding only one except explicitly talks about lucifer and people speculate he later is satan which doesn't really add up. Lucifer is the spirit of rebellion and justice over tyranny. He requires nothing and yet yahweh demands obedients and threatens eternal suffering. BTW it says satan is the king of earth not hell.
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... Don't Forget; satan
Wants You To Think
He Holds H e l l's
K e y s. Jesus
Took Them.
L o l.
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I don't see what is funny here spang. Just in a good mood? :j
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Wow, has Lucifer got you snowed. Lucifer is another name for Satan. God gave man choice and Lucifer has been trying to get man to choose to rebel against God and God's commandments ever since. Saying that Lucifer is the spirit of rebellion against tyranny is just sooooo wrong. Lucifer is all about tyranny. Lucifer is the embodiment of everything evil in any society.
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Lucifer rebelled against god for god was tyrannical and unjust. God stands to watch innocent people burn for eternity for petty reasons but the worst part is his words that would justify atrocities against humans and make people who beleve in him ok with that. It's disgusting. Have you bothered to look at what you are fighting against? Lucifer is compassion and justice. Those who call him the devil have no idea what they are saying for they are blinded by biblical bias and "holy" ignorance.
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Lucifer rebelled against god for god was tyrannical and unjust. God stands to watch innocent people burn for eternity for petty reasons but the worst part is his words that would justify atrocities against humans and make people who beleve in him ok with that. It's disgusting. Have you bothered to look at what god are fighting against? Lucifer is compassion and justice. Those who call him the devil have no idea what they are saying for they are blinded by biblical bias and "holy" ignorance.
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Lucifer rebelled against God because HE wanted to be God. God is not tyrannical or unjust, he gave us choice then let us chart our own course. That is not tyrannical. He is all powerful but because he gave man choice he had to accept the atrocities perpetrated by man at the instigation of Lucifer. Yes at the instigation of Lucifer. You are so blinded and twisted that what is God's traits you have put on Lucifer. Every evil that has been perpetrated on this earth is Lucifer's doing. God limited Lucifer as to what he could do. Lucifer can't kill a man but he can get, thru lies and deception, another man to do it for him. This is the last time I will debate this with you. I am so sorry you have such a twisted view of God and Lucifer. I will pray for you (you'll hate that). Good Luck in your life.
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i respect your beliefs, I though believe that there is one God who rules both Heaven and earth I also believe that one day all who believe in this Almighty God will go to Heaven

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That's very civil of you. I would like to believe our youth is growing just as you. You know you would embarrass some of the adults with your gentle and just demeanor if they understood manners at all.
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thank you. having grown up in Europe I learnedly to respect others views and opinions
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Maybe I should move there. American christians are oft on crusade with violence on the mind. One or the other is ok but the combination is scary. You seem like a darling girl. I imagine you have a nice life and will win your self a good husband.
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thank you ever so much
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Your welcome. I'm just glad your in the world representing an example that shows the world how to be civil.
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If there is a judgement and an afterlife I'm certain under no circumstance you will not be rewarded. You who accept and love even a heretic. You would find yourself among the most noble.
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How about you just take morals and kick out the whole "spiritual leader" part?

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This is the spirit of Lucifer though. You would not become an american and then burn the constitution. So why leave out the guy responsible? Someone thought long and hard about his demons when creating Lucifer, I think the deity deserves some credit here.
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Caring to credit the dead founding fathers whom wrote the constitution, or the angel that taught us some logical and open minded principles doesn't amount to anything. It might in your own mind, but its importance is subjective. Personally I could care less about the spiritual leader, I'll just take the morals.
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That's fair but I think you should give credit where credit is due. I would like to believe after we die we are remembered for our contributions. Like the soldiers who die for our country, the men who fought for civil rights and the angel that taught us that we should not submit to tyranny.
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Ok, I respect your beliefs.
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I'm pleased you can understand.
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let me answer your question with another question. Why lucifer?
i mean, he was in the top spot with the angels, he had the best job on the block, he had the looks, he was the most beautiful angel of all, he was right next to Gabriel and Michel, he had it all......bu it wasnt good enough. he started to get jealous of GOD, he started to grumble and complain, he thought angel deserved the praise that he was "wasting" on GOD. so he started to keep some of it himself. he started with a little, then some more, and more, until he kept all of it for himself. and not only that, he gave some to some of the other angels, and lied to them to get them to come to his side. GOD knew the whole time, and when lucifer and his gang tried to take the throne, the angels who had not been tricked fought against them lucifer an his gang lost their place in heaven and were hurled like balls of fire down to earth. lucifer, now bearing the name "satan" hated GOD for this and the fallen angels now "demons" would forever be in service to satan and try to get man to follow him and thus, keeping them away from GOD.(all of this can be found in revelation 12)
I strongly suggest considering this. GOD bless you

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satan is no longer considerd a rebel, now i and my fellow christian/messianic belivers are the rebels by staying with GOD.
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I disagree. You've only read God's narrow self righteous bias ranting. The truth is that Lucifer got sick of serving such a wicked master. He played the games and jumped through the hoops but the reality was he was unhappy serving this wicked "god." God claims he "made" Lucifer/ Lucifer was not made. He has always been just like god. God just wanted all the glory for himself. When Lucifer wanted to do his own thing god through a hissy fit and wrote a book slandering Lucy. A third of the angels? More like all of them. God is alone and threatens you because he is lonely. Lucifer was always the life of the party and god was jealous. But god was weak and cruel so its no wonder Lucifer got tired of his crap. The secret is that no rebellion happened at all- god just saw it that way. The truth is that Lucy was just sick of him and left.
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Hey Truth! Why didn't you follow Lucifer? You could have been a fun demon forever and you would never have gotten a body... Sounds like a win win deal.
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I would have been Lucifers most loyal were he real and I in his dimension and time.
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God is the creator of all; including Lucifer, I would go with the creator rather than a wannabe creation.

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Lucifer is no wannabe. Simply wanted independence.
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Lucifer, isn't even the same as Satan. It says that no where in the Bible. I dropped my account because I got discouraged about something and then I reconsidered it. I am going to try to be more subdued than I was before. By the way, my dad just had a stroke and might die. Just got done visiting him in the hospital.

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You say these things for shock value. I know you are really a good guy with a warm heart. Btw, that thing you said. We both know that will never happen.
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18Jenni
Satan didn't even look like that picture in your avatar. Nor was he a red half man with the torso of a goat with a pitchfork. As many things, that was borrowed from paganism. The god Pan was half goat, half man.
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I only returned to this because every atheist that I asked told me I wasn't offending them. Someone thought I might be.
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Who ever thought you were offending us prolly has it out for you themselves. I know how other types of christians often view jws. Lucifer is actually the planet venus but also actually ultimately pan. It's many different gods in truth but the biblical reference paints one image.

And about that. Of course not, things said of no consequence are easiest said.

I'm sorry your dad is not doing so well. It's great he lives.
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My dad is going to die for sure they say. I was estranged from him. I am from the first family. He never was affectionate with me and never spent time with me growing up, never said he loved me, never spent time with me. His wife was jealous of his kids and her kids were favored. But we repaire our strained relations today. I bought them flowers and my dad wouldn't let go of my arm and he said he loved me so I am at peace. I only cried at that moment but I have been stoic the rest of that time and unaffected.
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Truth put puppies or kitten or a clown face as your next avatar. it would be hilarious. People would warm to you also.
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That's tragic your relationship with your father but it is good you got to feel warmth from him at least once. My stepmother has done all she can to turn my father against me. She regularly attacks me openly. It's so heinous my brother gets upset about it. My dad and I have drifted apart for it and I cannot find the strength to forgive her for this though I have forgiven great injustices and am one of the most empathetic and compassionate people I know. Many people ask me how I have forgiven for the acts some people have done to me. So in a way I can feel your pain as my dad spends more time with her kids now. Though I do not know of the death part and it must be hard.
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Jenni
Why is it that you cannot accept Lucifer, the angel of light? Does he not count as one of gods creations to you? I feel we should show affection for everything equally without exception. This is what Buddhism has taught me. Even if you do not understand it you are supposed to be affectionate in Buddhism. I think Christianity has some corrupted quote about loving neighbor but it's so specific it has no real value as a ethic I think- most Christians hate the devil. I say have sympathy because you do not know his struggle unless you have been him. I have been Lucifer and know his struggle therefore I cannot hate him. I even find a sense of peace from the angel of light though I am sure no Christian will understand where I am coming from here. They ride a high horse and look down on others. It is my contention that you only look down on self for we are our own demons.
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A guy was hit by a bus the next thing he knows he is surrounded by a mist and there is a golden path in front of him... nothing else to do so he follows it, by and by he comes upon a huge set of gates, they are all gold and mother of pearl and are locked closed. In front is a rather bored looking man sitting at a desk in front of a huge book. The man looks up and says Oh! HI! I'm Peter! So ,, what's your name? The man tells Peter his name and Peter flips through his books then looks and says.. Oh... You're one of THOSE.. you have to follow that path over there, and points to a silvery pathway leading off into the mist. With no other choice the man follows the path. Pretty Soon he comes upon an identical set of gates, but these are standing wide open. He walks through and sees a beautiful landscape with many paths branching off in many directions, a slightly handsome yet banal look man is walking down one of them toward him. The man walks up to him and says Hey! How's it going? Welcome! Oh I'm Lucifer by the way! " they shake hands and Lucifer says "So I am just here to get you oriented, it's pretty laid back here, do what you want, go where you please but some people like to stay on certain paths.. you know. So over in the mountains you will find the Sages and Wise Hermits, in the zen gardens are the Buddhists and Swamis and Cholas etc. Over in the forest you will find the Druids and a few of the Witches, There are also people who just like to sample a bit of everything, however you want to do it Man!" Suddenly there is a loud Crack of Thunder and the ground splits in two just in front of them and the sky tears open, flames shoot out of the crack and suddenly from the tear in the sky people are falling into the flames and screaming. When last screaming tormented soul disappears into the inferno the crack slams shut, the tear in the sky heals and Lucifer says "anyway.. as I was.." WAIT! crys the man.. What the HECK was that?! "Oh" says Lucifer "that was the Christians.. the wouldn't have it any other way" :D
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18Jenni
I sometimes have a hard time deciphering what you mean truth. I think you should change your Avatar picture to kittens if only for a few days just to see what everyone says. It would be funny. Awenydd-I read half of what you wrote and got bored.
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Jenni I am so sorry to hear about your dad. We were just discussing him a few days ago before this happened. I have followed your new account. I hope you will let me know how you are doing. Your friend, Sincerity (Beckie)
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Thanks.
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I wrote you a long message about my sincere sympathy for your situation about your father. It was heart felt and honest. I don't know why but it was deleted. I'm really saddened to see that mods could be so corrupt to delete a comment with nothing offensive at all in in. My language was even fine. I also talked about my poison relationship with my father as his girlfriend is awful to me. It really bothers me that this comment got deleted for basically seemingly no reason at all. Seriously if any person read this comment no one would take offense. It would be like if sincerities comment right there got deleted. I don't even know why anyone would have reported it because it was one of my nice comments. All I can say about it is what the heck and I'm sorry for your situation.
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Let me try to be more clear for you. Have sympathy for the devil because you do not know his struggle. In Buddhism we teach that you are to have affectionate love for all things without exception. Lucifer the angel of light is my Avatar because I find no other Entity that could represent me better. I will not change, cannot change and would not want to change. Why can you not accept Lucifer when you yourself know the struggle of maintaining perfection?
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Truth, I believe Lucifer has taught you well. I've read a lot of your comments on here. You call Christ an Ele test mean person... It appears the only one thats blind to their own "mean spirited" self is you.Yes, I believe Lucifer has trained you to be quite the hypocrite. You talk and preach about all ugliness in Christianity and you choose the ugliest form mentioned in the bible to worship. Your words are nothing but a sad mantra of a young kid that is backwards in their thinking, sad , confused, and apparently mislead as well.

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So Obviously
T r u e and
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If you don't like it the bible says not to "throw your pearls before swine."
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Amen and amen !
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That is your judgmental opinion. Don't fall from grace on my account. You attack my character for attacking a book. Materialistic as ever we christians. Lucifer is not ugly. You only see the dark side of things and that is why you cannot see that. It is not hypocritical to call a tyrant a tyrant but it is to protest you are a christian yet stay at enmity with your neighbor. I have no quarrel with one of you and yet I am attacked by many of you. Best pray the one deciding your fate not be of those you damn.
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Truth you are not "swine" but you understand what that scripture means.
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My power animal is boar so if the bible says
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"There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death". Proverbs 14:12

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We all die honey
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It is talking about spiritual death.
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Been there. Best moment of my life.
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Amen to that.
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Because my life is perfect with God. And the devil has made my life miserable. And before i got into god he made me depressive and sad and I just didnt want to live anymore. So yeah choose GOD!

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a better question would be whay should i? im not arguing or trying to offend i just want to know why.

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thats what he wants you to think yea life might be harder if you belive and love god but the rewards at the end are better with god and plus god is awsome and a great god who loves us and is the one who created us not satan but i am not trying to make you belive in something you dont want to belive in just saying god is the way to go trust in him

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no. Lucifer has shown a deeper more satisfying character in the limited text his words were given.
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