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will going to church get you to heaven?

me personally i don't think going to church will get you there, its your faith in God and what you truly believe in him will. its up to you to read and understand the bible and learn about the good lord. but we all will not know until judgment day so keep the good man above first.

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Nope!
Ever heard going to church makes you no more of a Christian than me standing in a garage makes me a car? It's a true statement.

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Morning lady! :)
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Good morning cj :)
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Very true.. Gold star for you ;)
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Right on Sadiesmomma. Star.
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Very true for one word! Star !
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I personally don't believe so

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I believe the same, church won't get us to Heaven. Jesus will. Star for your answer.
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True. Star for your answer.
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But Being a good person will bring you positivity to your LIFE. Don't get caught up in the what ifs of the afterlife and lose site of the fact that you still have to go through 90 some odd years of living. Be a good decent human being and the universe will see to it you will receive what you deserve. We all have to go through our trials, though

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thanks love it god bless
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beautiful :)
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From what I've heard, going to church is irrelevant if you want to get to your heaven.

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dont go by what you have heard, go by what you know. have a bless one hun
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Well I'm not christian and lots of people on hear say you don't really have to go and some people I've met in the past have said that you don't really have to go. They say it doesn't really matter "as long as god is in you".
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true in a way but if not it want hurt to hear words from others as well :)
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True :)
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nice chating with you have a bless one :)
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Sure. You to
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YOu are right, little. And, this doesn't prove anything, but i read a book very recently where a doctor, who was a christian, drowned in a kayaking accident and she went to heaven, briefly, before having to come back. She was always active in the church but her experience in heaven showed her that church is irrevelant. And, she is still very involved in her church, but her experience told her otherwise. :)
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Your talking about near death experiences? I have been researching that lately and have found out some very interesting things. I've researched American, Hindu, and Buddhist NDE's so far and they are all fairly different from eachother.
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hmm..interesting. I started getting interersted in it when reading different books written by doctors who have witnessed time and time again, death of people, and children. They can account, physcially exactly what happened, being the physican on site. They had become fascinated in what exactly happens ..to the soul after hearing so many people tell their stories. The doctors themselves, have no religious background or opinions.
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Yea as of right now I have come to the conclusion that most people who experience an NDE usually end up seeing what they know about already. For example, you said this Christian doctor died and visited heaven and came back. She probably thought she was in heaven because all she knows and worships is Jesus and god. But a Hindu sometimes sees some their their many gods (but not always) and generally have a totally different experience.
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I like your new profile pic.. Is it you and your honey? Beautiful people..:) I agree with you, in many ways, with regards to peoples NDEs. One thing I found the same in all...: the knowing when the soul left the body, ( feeling it leave) , hovering over themselves abs watching everything going around, being visited by either angels, Jesus, and/ or people they knew who had passed on, going through a tunnel and seeing a light. All the common thread. After that, there experiences are a little different. I have read about many Jews or Muslims, etc. who see Jesus. And many Athiests do, too. When all these folks come back to life, their lives and beliefs r drastically changed. I have also read of others going to hell. But, brought out of it by calling on Jesus. I know none of it can prove anything but interesting to think about.:) hope u r having a good week..:)
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Haha actually my profile pic is Jim and Pam from The Office. I love that show lol. Yea I can't say I have heard of any Hindus or buddhists seeing Jesus. But I have heard of atheists seeing Jesus or something like that. Yes I know these things don't really prove anything because our unconscious minds can just create any delusion. I remember I had an "out of body experience" when I was 8yrs old. I remember seeing myself sleeping and everything was foggy and dark but the only light I could see was my hall light. I tried getting to it but I remember it was really hard to move because I felt really stiff. But just before I could get to the light, I woke up. It was actually kind of scary because I had no idea what was going on. Lol. But it was interesting. But I'm no expert on NDE's and I just go by what I read in many people's stories and try to come to some kind of conclusion. That's one big problem with things like this. So many different people, so many different religions, so many different experiences, so many different interpretations.
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I didn't even recognize the people from the office in your profile pic. lol That is interesting about your out of body experience. It would be strange and frightening. I've read about the part of the brain (I think it's in the parietal lobe..but can't remember) that is basically turned on when someone has an out of body experience. One of the doctors who has studied this, explains. For most, that area may not be turned on until the time of death. Others may experience it before death. They have done a study where they stimulated that part of the brain of a person, and they experienced this. He calls it the God spot. Doesn't diminish a persons experience when they see Jesus, angels or others but it just helps explain the how. Others have argued it's a hallucination but they have done studies to show that the differences. To me, I have a bit of a hard time understanding that the brain is still even working when a person dies. When someone is dead for 15 minutes and experiences their soul come out of their body and they are greeted by others who have passed away and taken to heaven, the body...left on earth, is dead. Brain should no longer be functioning. To me, this shows that our bodies are truly just a shell that dies but our soul (mind, will and emotions) live on and never die. (which Jesus mentions in the scriptures) For athiests who have died believing there would be nothing at the time of death, have come back and completely changed their beliefs and their ways of life. This, to me, shows it much more than a hallucination or chemical release in the brain. But..that's me. :)
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Yes I understand why you would think that. I personally don't really think these people are really actually in heaven and seeing god or anything like that because even though many people over here see that, a lot of other people from different parts of the world see their gods or goddess or end up "seeing" their own heaven or hell that christians dont believe in. And if the christian god and Jesus are real then all those people that were seeing their own different gods should have been seeing Jesus and not their own gods because the christian god is supposed to be the only god. But if he is the only god then why have so many people seen different gods or simply not seen any gods at all? I'm atheist but I still think that something does happen to our minds after we die. I think maybe we just kind of dream forever maybe. I only think that because people do actually dream every night but most people just don't remember. I just don't see how we could die and nothing will happen because our minds just don't have any boundaries.
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Well, when we sleep, our brains don't stop working. Yet when we die, everything stops. How could it be that our brains are still working forever when, clinically, there are no brain waves on an EEG?
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Hmm.... I don't know the answer to that. But I don't really mean that we actually dream I just mean something similar to a dream but not actually a dream. But I'm not really sure. It's just a little theory of mine that's probably not true. And if there's nothing then I'm sure it'll probably be a lot like before we were born.
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Apep

As an agnostic, I'd say that being a good person who never goes to church as opposed to being a bad person who goes to church would more likely get you past the Pearly Gates. ;)

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Okay.
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Okkkkkayyyyyyyy! Yeeaahhh! So much enthusiasm here! ;)
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I'm EXCITED!!! God just does that for me! ;)
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I knnnoooowww right? He da onnnneee! ;)
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Hallelujah! We have ourselves a BELIEVER!!! ;)
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magdalene
It sounds good, but it just doesn't line up with the Bible though. Jesus is the Way of our Salvation and Restoration back to God, according to the Bible.
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Apep
Frankly, I don't believe the Bible to be anything more than the words of another person transcribed as those of God, Himself. By the same definition, the works of Confucius, transcribed by his followers, could be interpreted as sacred. The Bible and The Analects have as much authority as one another. Why should I choose one over the other? Please give me a legitimate reason.
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Apep, If you don't believe the Bible, then I guess there's no way you could choose one over the other. If a person doesn't believe something, then, they couldn't stand by it because they don't believe in it nor in what it says.
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Indeed. I'm glad you understand the differances in idealogy, rather than impose your own beliefs or attempt to guilt me into submission. If God is indeed real, I suppose you'll have the last laugh. If He isn't, neither of us will be alive to care. ;)
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No i don't think that just going to church will get you to heaven but it can help free your mind and open your heart to god and what he can do for you.

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so true at times but now and days you cant even do that because people gossip in the church which is very sad. im not a church going person nor a bad person, but when im home along with nothing to do ill read my bible and praise him.
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magdalene
Maybe in church, you can make a difference in the life of some of those people. It's great that you read the Bible and praise God. I think I have personally felt the same way that you described before, cutieon line.
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Jamie, Star for your answer. It's a good place to hear the word of God when we are in the church God intends for us. For there, we will hear revelant Word that ministers to our life. Good answer.
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I know many people who have been hurt in the church. Unfortunately, people tend to put pastors or other leaders on a pedastal rather than God. So, if they get hurt, they turn from God. We forget that everyone in the church are simply human and all humans will hurt us. No one is perfect.
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i dont think so.

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I agree with you. Star for your answer.
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no....but it's a good place to start on how to live a "do the right thing " kind of life

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I agree. Star.
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No per the Bible KJV faith in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ blood for forgiveness if our sins.

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True. Star for your answer.
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Nope. Not by itself. Church is important but if a person hasnt made a conscious decision to beling God and to follow Him and Christ then you could go to church every day of the week and still miss heaven.

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Very true. Star for Auxarc's.
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NO. Not church. This below.
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That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:9, 10 NKJV)

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morning spang
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:-) Goodmorning my dear
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Spang you are a bible master Wow!
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Lol.. Not even close !
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Morning
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magdalene
Good answer. Star for you!
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Hey mags!!! Thank you sis !
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magdalene
You're welcome. You earned it!
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Im a fan of all of uu!! Green!
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Thank you. I'm your fan to ;)
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(((NO))) but this will================================But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:8-10 KJV)

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morning bobby
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Go bobby go !! Great answer as always
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Strawberry good morning to you and Spang, it seems like all our other friends have left the site :0(
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magdalene
Hi Bobby. I'm still here. But, true enough, I, too, spend less time on Ask, in general. Very good answer.
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Wow! am I glad to see you Mag thanks
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magdalene
Glad to see you too, Bobby! It's people like you that make the world a happier place.
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Hey, all of you...don't you have jobs or other things to keep you from being on ask 24/7? lol I know people who come on when they can. But, out making a living, raising kids and life gets in the way of sittin on the phone or the computer...lol
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lololoves, Some of us work different hours, some of us have raised our kids, had surgery and are not able to work yet, and have defied the odds by even being on the computer actually. For that matter, to even be here at all. Feeling guilty...I hope not....but true story anyway. Some of us are old like me and have raised their kids. Plus, for me, I've earned so much money that life won't let me earn any more! Do some of these claims sound false? They are! Some people work and have their phone with them and get on Ask during breaktime too. That one isn't false. They really do.
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If you don't see me on here...that's what I'm doing. If I'm on here more..I'm at home not feeling well. (have chronic conditons..)
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:0) smile
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This is what I've wondered, Mag....for the folks who are on at all times of they day, if they pysically are unable to work, don't have kids or have grown kids and/or retired. ;) I can't tell how old some are, but I can tell some look young enough to be out in the work force. If they are indepentantly wealthy, they can be my mentor. :)
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That might be a possibility :) Never know, huh?
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No amount of church attendance will get a person to heaven, church involvement is the expected norm for someone who follows Jesus Christ. Our salvation is found in Him, and only Him (Acts 4:12) "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved") and the church is the context in which we encourage one another to grow and actively serve others.

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Great answer my berry sister :0) goodmorning
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Starberry's for everyone ;)
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Good Answer, Strawberry. Star for you!
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Why; does a god reside only on the churches? God is supposedly "omnipresent", is he not!! However, no amount of faith (in whatever god that might be) will either take you to heaven, but your deeds will, if there be a heaven.

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If you were to believe, a persons deeds, alone also doesn't get anyone there. But, a person's faith is revealed by their deeds. :)
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You couldn't have been more wrong. Faith has nothing to do with deed or the vice-versa. And when you say "faith" and imply Christianity, you must remember that Christianity is NOT the sole faith of mankind. You must also remember that the ancient savages also had FAITH in their stone gods just as you have in your god, son and ghost. If his faith leads him not to heaven, your faith neither will (except, of course, arrogance and wishful thinking).
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You answered your question and I agree :D

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Nope. Going to church is good to do, but it won't get you to heaven.

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Star for your answer. And, what a precious picture!
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You're welcome.
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Cute baby !
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Going to church helps a person learn and grow more in their faith. Not always even then. Many take classes, be a part of a small group/bible study, read their bible, etc. It's a good place to go to be around other believers and get support. But, scripture also says that "we are the church." Doesn't even speak of a building to be in. Think about all the people who live (or have lived) in jungles and places where there is no building to go to. Or, maybe people who have never even heard of the bible. God knows our hearts. :)

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Helen Keller was blind, deaf and mute. When her teacher first tried to teach her about God, her response was, "I already know Him - I just didn't know His name." God puts it in us to know Him, deeper than any language or image.
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That's beautiful!
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love it :)
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You're right, amen! :)

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Hi JesusInc, Good to see you!
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Since everyone seems to be going the "no" route, for the fun of it I will say "yes".
Let's look more closely at your question to see how I can say this.
Will going to Church get you to heaven? The crux of the matter seems to be everyone's definition of the word "church".
If you define it unBiblically as the building that you go to on Sunday, then no is correct. Just as NO other work, no matter how good, will save you by itself whether it is giving money to help the poor, or belief, or visiting the sick, or prayer, or saying that Jesus is Lord, or reading the Bible.
But if you define the Church as God's Kingdom, the body of Christ, the assembly of the saved. Then coming to the Church is the only way to get to heaven. The only way is through Jesus.
Hope this gives you something to think about and study.

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true enough its very important to go to church. but time have change in so many ways meaning people beliefs in church is very poor i get and understand what your saying. now and days you cant really just up and walk in a church and praise the lord with out feeling negative energy. but thats why you suppose to over look it, but going to church want get you to heaven in my eyes. no matter how much your in there no matter what you give, its the faith in you that counts. debate ends here have a bless one

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It wont unless you confess christ. Everybody that go to church wont go to heaven. we have the most dirtiest people in the world that goes to church and do the most out on the street. but i gues what your saying long as they in there they will?
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dkks, I got what you were saying. Star. You were saying the same thing, Jesus, being the only way. And, I agree. He is the Kingdom of Heaven. One in the Lord. The Church. I enjoyed your answer. Thanks!
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I agree and was basically saying the same thing when I mentioned that church isn't just a building to go to but that as believers "we are the church." ;)
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Yes lolo, you were right. We are the Church, but most people don't think of it that way because of the way we use the word in our sentences.
I remember my grandfather always used to talk about "going to the meetin' house" when referring to the place, instead of the current "going to church".
I guess that it is just a pet peeve of mine that people use the word Church in what I feel is a demeaning way. (You may notice that I tend to capitalize the word when referring to the Biblical Church. I have heard arguments that it shouldn't be. But some of my reasoning is shown by an imagined reference to the "Greysville, MO North Brooadway church of God". (In English important words are capitalized - Greysville being a little town, MO a state, North Broadway being a little dirt street, and God being the Creator of the universe. Eph 5:25 says that, "Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it". Doesn't that make it pretty important? At least more important than some little bitty town or a muddy road??? Oh, well, off my soap box : )
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i understand what your saying now dkks :)
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Nope, it just makes the preacher richer!

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No. The Bible says God cannot be found in a temple made by man's hands. Nothing we do gets us "in". It's who we possess inside us whether God will recognize us or not and allow us to enter.

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Very true. Star for your answer!
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Thank you kindly.
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magdalene
I just reread this answer and my heart just had the realization of this truth that I already know anew. What a wonderful, unselfish gift is Salvation. So grateful to the Lord! What peace He brings.
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partly. there's still a LOT to do though. well, in my religion, i mean.

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Going to Church is not going to save one or even give one a relationship w/God. We are told to seek him out - seek out the truth (John 8:32). Once we learn the truth it will release us from the bondage of this wicked system of things. It will enable us to break free of the many traps placed by Satan.
It is how we obey and apply scriptural principle that will enable us to stand in favor before Almighty God. (2 Timothy 3:16) So going to Church every day isnt what God is looking for - he wants us to worship him with spirit and truth. Showy displays is not what will help us gain his approval - it will be everything in our Heart. (Proverbs 3:5,6)

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