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I'd like to hear from the conservatives of Ask.com regarding Richard Mourdock's statement.

Not big on getting into dirty political arguments on Ask, but I really need some assurances that this guy is not mainstream Republican material. For those who don't know, the Indiana Senate nominee Richard Mourdock claimed that pregnancy is a "gift from God, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape." This sounds to me like an insult to every rape victim in the United States. And what if a 12-year-old girl becomes pregnant by rape? This guy sounds to me like a Christian version of the Taliban. Opinions?

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Republican men need to STOP talking about women's reproductive issues. Period. I wish someone would come up with a list of all the offensive things that MALE republican leaders have said on this subject because they're all starting to run together. I know Mourdock tried to walk back his comments, but it sure did sound like he meant that rapists are doing the will of god. At least this putz realizes that rape can actually cause pregnancy.

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Ya know what? women are MORE than just our reproductive parts. I think men on BOTH sides need to stop talking about this
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Abortion is a key issue in the most conservative country in the industrialised world. It's always going to be a focal point.
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It should not be a focal point. I'm worried about government over-spending and the security of this nation-- the real issues. We need abortion (but please, no partial birth abortion), but we have larger issues to solve.
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The choice of bringing a child into this world or not is a serious issue.
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We need abortion? Like Hitler needed extermination of the Jews?
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There are Christian Democrats against abortion too. And many, many women with hearts and brains not just sex organs.
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There are barely any women in congress which is why you never hear women talking pro-life. You see lots of women holding pro-life signs outside abortion clinics and I know lots of women who are against abortion. White men aren't demons.
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I support a persons right to choose what they want to do with their bodies. I'm a Christian and I'm pro-choice. I understand this is a big issue for some people and many people whom I agree with on other issues are pro life. The problem I have with it is government funding abortion clinics which is just immoral on the part of government. By allowing freedom of choice we allow someone to do what they want to do with their body whether we like it or not.
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@sasquatch Good point!! I think the same goes for gay marriage.
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Shameful ignorance.

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So stupid it doesn't need addressing.

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hi Bubbs!
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Hey girl!!! WTH!
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Ya I'd like to know how HE know's that getting pregnant by a rapist was meant to be a gift from god. Who told him this? Did God send him an Email on this? This shouldn't even be a political issue. It's insulting to all women, pro-choice and pro-life. It's a shame that women are forced to vote every election to protect their own rights, instead of being able to look at each candidate and they're own merits.

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I find it hard to comprehend this guy is even a legitimate contender. If somebody said that here in Australia, he'd be disgraced for life. Forcing women to live by inhumane values and making THEM accountable for the crime? That's what the damned Taliban do. How can the United Staes fight oppressive religious extremism when it promotes the same thing? I'm at a loss to understand the logic here...
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Thanks Boo, Apep you are absolutely correct, It is a double standard, but fortunately not all Americans think this way. They are not the majority. I used to rent an office in the same building as a planned parenthood, and every fricken weekend I was harassed by men, women, and children with fake fetuses in giant jars, and giant fetus posters. They harassed everyone without even knowing which office in the building people were going to. I was never able to keep my mouth shut, and engaged quite frequently.
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I agree with you 100% Suzie. It's like a slap in the face. "Now you are going to have this baby whether you like it or not, we know what's best for YOU" Sounds like a creepy, kidnapper type mentality.
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That's terrible. We have nothing even close to that in Australia. The entire civilised world outside of the continental United States doesn't, in fact. I really feel bad for American women that they need to suffer this process of denegration and humiliation for making their own choices in life. Extremist religious politics is shot down here faster than you can blink. We had one woman who rallied the ultra conservatives into a furor. Her name is Pauline Hanson. She tried to have all immigration permanently terminated. Our CONSERVATIVE government had her put in prison. Pretty much anywhere besides the US racist, ethnocentric, ultra-conservative lunatics get their medicine in the end. This isn't 1952 anymore, amirite? ;)
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That's why it is called freedom of CHOICE. The woman, based on her own personal beliefs can make that decision for herself, whether it be to keep the baby, or have an abortion. This way ALL women's rights are respected and protected.
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He is a legitimate contender. I remember when his name was added to the ballot in Indiana's primaries. It made big news because he is young and a relative newcomer who managed to beat out a much more experienced senator for the chance at re-election. Dick Luger had been a politician for many years, but he was a little too moderate for IN I guess. Luger made a statement about how republicans and democrats need to work together. Mourdock responded by saying that working together meant dems coming over to his way of thinking.
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Apep, I remember when Planned Parenthood along with other women's rights group, had a huge boat converted into a clinic so Women from Ireland, along with other countries, could have their abortions in international waters, due to the restrictions the government put on them. This is not just a U.S problem, our country just likes to yammer on loudly about it.
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Indeed.
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Winetastergirl, women aren't "forced" to do anything and everyone has to protect their rights as much as each other. Also I'm sure Christians would appreciate it if you hadn't put that "God sending an email" part in there.
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Apep - The statement didn't imply the causing of women having to live by inhumane values or make them accountable for the crime.
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Suzie - What about women being in charge of babies being able to live?
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madmarcus- Seems to me you want a heightened police state and government in the bedroom. I bet you think birth control and the morning after pill should be illegal too because it terminates sperm cells. Should masturbation be illegal because it eliminates sperm cells which are living organisms just like a fetus. I don't understand the pro life argument because it seems to be pro life you have to be against birth control and masturbation.
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Marcus, you sound like the Taliban. You would make birth control and abortion illegal because it's God's will? Head on over to Afghanistan, champ, they can't wait to recruit guys like you. ;)
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Mad Marcus, If I wanted to vote for a President that was Republican, because I thought his platform was good, I couldn't because part of their platform always includes screwing with my right to have an abortion. SOOOOO In that way I am forced to protect my rights every 4 years, instead of voting for a president based on his own merits. Also, Christians shouldn't be offended by my Email comment, Rather they should be offended about Mourdock making a connection of ANY kind between God and Rape. I'm pretty sure that God gets my sense of humor.
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PRO CHOICE= A women's right to terminate a pregnancy OR a women's right to KEEP a pregnany, BOTH choices are protected= ALL women have rights.
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Jed - I'm 16 so I don't know what all of that means except masturbation. No it shouldn't be illegal because there's not yet a fetus to kill.
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Apep - I'm not like the Taliban. I obey my God and He would never want me to kill anyone unless they were trying to kill me.
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Winetastergirl - Regarding your voting, sometimes some things just aren't fair. It happens to everyone. But I'm sorry.
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Merely mentioning God and rape in the same subject doesn't make a connection. Christians can view reality while talking about God. What were you intending with your email comment?
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Pro choice also gives women the right to prevent a child's birth.
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Madmarcus---you're a fake Abortion

?Today's so called 'conservatives' don't even know what the word means. They think I?ve turned liberal because I believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That's a decision that's up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right. It?s not a
conservative issue at all.?---Barry Goldwater(Mr. Conservative)
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MM You are absolutely right it does also include preventing the birth in the first place, which I also support. But what about if a girl isn't taking birth control, because she isn't having sex. Then that girl becomes pregnant from being raped. Don't you think she should be able to decide whether or not to terminate the pregnancy? Mourdock did more than just mention god and rape in the same sentence. he stated that a baby was a gift from god, even when conceived by rape. My Email statement was saying don't put words in god's mouth unless god specifically told you out of his own mouth. By the way I do respect You and your opinions. I also think you are very intelligent:):)
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Jed, I replied to that in the other thread.
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Winetastergirl - What do you mean, "which I also support"?
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Under the circumstance of rape I don't know. What do you think?
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I'm not sure how to take your email statement.
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Thank you for the compliment!
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Abortion is a family matter not a government matter. Keep it legal and convince people to oppose it but keep it out of the federal government.
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I support the use of birth control to prevent getting pregnant in the first place and I think it is more important to promote that before it leads to abortion. In other words I think a woman has the right to abortion under any circumstances, But if a woman is sexually active and does not want children she should use one of the many forms of birth control out there.
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And Your welcome MM :)
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Jed - Murder is a government issue and I believe abortion is murder in most cases so in my opinion it's a government issue.
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Winerastergirl - Oh I see. Thanks for your input!
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Your welcome!
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Murder and abortion are 2 different things. You can't tell a woman what to do with her body. I would try to convince women not to have an abortion like I would convince people not to drink or smoke but government shouldn't regulate alcohol or nicotine. Drinking leads to people dieing we can't bring back prohibition.
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Abortion and murder are two different things. I can convince people not to support abortion but I can't force them to have a baby if they don't want to. Drinking causes deaths to but we shouldn't bring back prohibition.
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You know more people drank during prohibition then during any other time in history. go figure.
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Yes and more women will have abortions if they are illegal.
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Yes and more women will have abortions if abortion is illegal.
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And it will surely be be more dangerous. I hope some day in this country this issue will stop being a political one. UGH
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I believe abortion is equivalent to murder. I don't believe more people will have abortions if it's illegal. You can't prevent a baby's life just like you can't tell a woman what to do with her body.
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That's the thing you can not pass laws based on people's opinions. Just because you believe it's murder, doesn't mean that it is, that is your opinion.
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You can't make abortion illegal. Making abortion illegal is like making alcohol illegal. It wouldn't work. In life people live and die. In life people are born and some are aborted. You can't force an idea on people there still gonna do it. Communism doesn't work and neither will making abortion it will still happen. My older brother died in childbirth, I understand that in life people are born and others aborted. That's just the way life is and you can't change it.
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Lol. Winetastergirl, majority rules. I know I'm not a king, I never said I think it should be illegal because I said so.
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This goes to all: debating isn't about "I want this to happen so you better want it too," it's about stating your opinion and hoping to convince someone. I never said whatever I say goes and you guys are stating your opinions just as much as I am. So please don't throw a "Just because you believe it doesn't mean it's right" because the same goes for you.
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No but you did say it should be a government issue because you believe abortion is murder. i wasn't implying just based on your opinion only. My point is that it should NOT be a government issue. There are some things that I don't believe in that other people do. I may not like their choices, but they have that right as long as it doesn't violate my rights. Laws can't be passed based on personal choices.
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I never meant to imply that whatever you say goes. So smile:):)
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Winetastergirl - I didn't say it should be a government issue, I said I believe it should be. Saying "Just because you believe this doesn't mean it's so" is an entirely different subject.
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Winetastergirl - I'm not upset at you, I'm upset that I don't know how to get this across.
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I understand meant no harm its just a debate. But I understand why you're against it. I didn't mean to say "its just" like that. I'm saying there are winners and losers in life. Like in capitalism people win and lose. In socialism everyone wins but it doesn't work because actually everyone loses. Same applies to abortion. Babies are born others are aborted or die its really sad for those that are. I would convince a pregnant woman not to get an abortion but if its her decision its hers not mine. That's why it shouldn't be law it should be a family matter.
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So did we all kiss and make up? Tee hee hee
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By the way are we going for a record number of comments under my answer? lol
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Jed - I can see you stand strong in your opinion and it will be useless to continue trying to convince you. :P Thanks for the debate, I always enjoy it.
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Winetastergirl - Kiss, no. :P Make up, no. Conclude the fun that had no spite in the first place, yes. And for that last question, sure. :P
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It's just a figure of speech (kiss and make up) No spite, agreed:)
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I know, I'm only kidding.
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Madmarcus-- I respect and value your opinion. It was a good debate. Thanks maybe we can have another one sometime.
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wibetastergirl--I think I agree with you on abortion. Thanks for the debate it was fun.
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Well said winetaster. And they say there is not a War on Women.
This also goes hand in hand with what
Republican Todd Akin whose running for the Senate seat in Missouri. They call him Todd "legitimate rape" Akin.

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Thanks for the compliment Lady! This is the second time recently rape has kind of been legitimized. These politicians should visit some other countries where rape is more accepted and live there for a while.
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Yeah good idea. Maybe start with Afghanistan .
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Are you talking about a war on women here or the entire world? Depends on the area. Here, I think not. I mean we have a woman secretary of state. & If you mean the entire world, well plenty of northern countries are ran by women. But then in the middle east women are treated like dirt.. And doesn't our president want to keep us from that area- an area where there is an ACTUAL war on women? Idk... I am a woman (more like a girl) & I feel like I've got a pretty good chance in the world.
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No just saying that when politicians make comments that make rape more acceptable in our society it is similat to how women are treated in some other countries and maybe they should go visit places like this first hand and see what that type of mentality breeds. By the way Pakistan and India have already had female presidents/prim ministers. America has not.
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Sorry prime ministers Spell check lol
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Liberals love twisting ones words to suit their agenda of killing babies by choice. All children are a gift from God. How they were made sometimes is through evil deeds. But that child born of rape could turn out to be the one who cures cancer, ends poverty or leads the world to peace. Even could be the second coming of Christ. To me the evil is the killing of the unborn. It is a sick twisted world we live in. The price we all pay for this injustice starts with the death then with the ultimate suffering, guilt and grief the mother will live with all her life. Thankfully there is salvation to be had.

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Good point, Bigred.
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What if that child is the next Jeffrey Dahmer? That's a bad argument.
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Tra - Police don't arrest everyone they can just because they could possibly have committed a crime, so I don't see why we should kill a baby with the excuse of "It could be evil."
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And I don't see why we should force a woman to bear the child of her rapist just because it MIGHT cure cancer. Do you see why this is a bad argument?
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Oh, man... What a fucking joke. I know we never agree, Red, but if the second coming of Christ is the result of some raping scum taking a 12-year-old girl against her will, it ain't even worth it. And you're sick for believing it is. Bloody American Taliban is what you are.
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Tra - I never said I'm against abortion, just pointing out flaws. I do apologize, I could have been more friendly about it.
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I believe if a woman is raped it's up to her whether to have the child or not, but I think abortion should definitely not be totally free. I heard there are about 400 rapes a year and 4,000 abortions a year, or something like that. I believe abortion should definitely have limits.
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I don't understand when conservatives say they want small government and they really don't want small government. If your a big government bureaucracy supporter then say your one. A child being bombed in Iraq or Afghanistan could be the one to cure cancer or ends poverty. Yet republicans want to bomb the middle east I don't understand. At the time this country was founded abortion was not a problem and shouldn't be. We need to respect an individuals right to do what they want with their body. Get government out of people's bedrooms, and people's bodies, get government out of economic regulation as well we need small government and maximum freedom.
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It's not big government when you're protecting a baby's life. If fetuses were contemplating on killing women no one would like it, so why should anyone kill anyone? Big government is when government intervenes in everyday life, not when they stop the killing of children. Regarding the Middle East: firstly no one over in the places we bomb does anything except farm or kill. Secondly if we stopped bombing them just because we figure anyone over there could discover the cure for cancer we would be killed by guns before saved from disease. When we bomb other countries we bomb their military bases, facilities, and skip churches and schools; they just come over here, take advantage of the American lifestyle that they so call "satanic" and then explode anywhere they feel like.
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When I say "they" after the last semicolon I'm referring to radical Middle Easterners.
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You shouldn't tell a woman what they should and should not do with their body. Government shouldn't tell people how they should use their bodies. The child is not fully a child yet until the second trimester. If you want to make abortion illegal and treat it as a government issue it's like making adultery illegal its not a smart idea. America will become like Iran if we make abortion, gay marriage, and things like that illegal. Freedom and Liberty are important values which are written in our constitution. I believe we should legalize drugs and prostitution even because its not harming anyone. Romney and Obama now belive in funding radical jihadists its insane. There are articles online that say civilians are dieing because of drone attacks. It's none of our business to be in any of these places in the middle east. Our meddling with their business got us into war with them in the first place and now we want to bomb Iran and create more enemies its not worth it.
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@Apep wow that was a really good point, it would not be worth it! @big when the 2nd coming of christ is conceived, you'd probably think that God would have like especially chosen that couple for his little jesus #2, right? How could you believe that God would choose some creep & innocent woman (even worse a little girl) to be the ones? Plus wasn't Jesus supposedly born from a virgin? Sooo wouldn't the same go for the 2nd coming of Christ? Can't be a virgin AND be raped ya know..
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Good point MsStina
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God chose an unmarried virgin the first time.. He is God and all knowing after all.
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How about government (my taxes) quit funding abortion? That's what I want. Also why do conservatives believe in having laws against murder? You think it's because we want a big government? Or are you smart enough to know that we need some government? Your argument is flawed and your hate is predictable. What is it with liberals when they are losing? If you weren't so dangerous you'd be funny.
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I'm conservative. Not sure what to think about this statement. I agree that men (not just conservative men) have to keep a good ear out for what women have to say about this subject. On another note lot of people in general have to remember: 1, when people say they don't like abortion they're usually not trying to say they think rape victims should become more victimized, but rather that babies should not be denied life. 2, we need to think about not only women but also the "fetuses" that will soon become breathing babies. I'm not saying what I believe; I'm saying what I think people should consider.

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" I agree that men (not just conservative men) have to keep a good ear out for what women have to say about this subject. "

As if men should make the ultimate decision, but just take our voices into consideration? Please clarify, because that sounded very patronizing. This is a women's issue. Women's voices need to be the strongest in this argument.
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Tra - I didn't say men make the ultimate decision. Tons of men speak out about abortion rights so tons of should should keep a good war out for what women have to say.
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Autocorrect messed me up but you know what I mean.
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The victims are entirely the priority here. How a cellular formation can take precedence over the rights of a woman who has been violated and impregnated against her will is beyond disgusting, Marcus. I mean, FFS, how do you deny the rights and beliefs of a woman by giving the cells in her body, the cells forcefully produced by some rapist lowlife, more rights than what she has for her own self? That's what the taliban did. You need to see that, mate. Liberal or conservative, Lincoln wouldn't have stood for American women being raped and forced to bear the child of their abuser. :(
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Sounds to me this is just a pro choice stint. Try to convince everyone why abortion is ok. Why you feel justified. Rape victims or women who simply use it as a form of birth control. I wonder who gets more abortions. Pathetic.
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Apep - The Taliban also farms and we're not stopping that.
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A fetus may only be cells at the time but so were you.
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If we make abortion illegal it is going to increase government power. Soon we will have a camera in every bedroom in America because it seems pro lifers want a heightened police state.
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Jed - Conservatives want government intervening in abortion rights and just about nothing else but personal harm. Therefor we aren't big government.
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Government shouldn't be involved in anything but protecting property rights of businesses. Government should not be involved in personal harm either. If a person wants to go hurt themselves why should I care about them. There not hurting me there harming themselves. If someone wants to smoke marijuana let them do it. Government has no right in the lives of people. Thomas Jefferson one of the greatest if not the greatest founding father said "If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, then what difference does it make to me. Abortion is not breaking my back and its not picking my pocket.
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Jed - By personal harm I mean harm to a person.
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A fetus is not a person, it can't feel pain.
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Exactly. This is religious persecution over common sense. How do you explain this to somebody who has been indoctrinated their entire life so much so that they believe that protecting the offspring of a rapist is more important than the rights of the woman who has been raped? You can't. It's a waste of time, clearly.
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Jed - You were a fetus once. Would you have minded to skip your life?
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Apep - It's nonsensical for you to think that just because I'm a believer. Believing in God is my choice; I could deny Him if I want but choose not to. My parents would never force me to believe anything. If you asked for my input, why are you ridiculing me for giving it to you?
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Madmarcus---you are not a true conservative..You're a phony. ?Today?s so-called ?conservatives? don?t even know what the word means. They think I?ve turned liberal because I believe a woman has a right to an abortion. That?s a decision that?s up to the pregnant woman, not up to the pope or some do-gooders or the Religious Right. It?s not a conservative issue at all.?---Barry Goldwater.
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I just have to say that the whole "aren't you glad you weren't aborted" argument is the stupidest argument I've ever heard. Of course I'm glad to be alive, but if I had been aborted, it would have happened before I had any thoughts or feelings (physical or emotional) or any cognizance whatsoever. It's a moot argument, a fallacy.
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Jed - It's not up to you what I am. I never said you're a liberal and actually not too long ago I believed abortion wasn't necessarily wrong and still called myself a conservative.
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Tra - That's exactly it. After everything you've completed in life and after every time you may have inspired someone to do something great would you like to throw it all away?
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Tra - I mean you think stopping a baby from being born is okay? You want to take its life away with the excuse of "It doesn't have feelings"?
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Madmarcus-- I can't understand you you're like mitt romney flip-flopping on an issue. Are you against or for abortion make up you're mind. Also you must oppose masturbation too, why don't you advocate making that illegal cause it seems you don't like killing organisms.
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Don't insult me.
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When did I say I'm for abortion? I'm against it unless it's under the circumstance of rape; then I'm not sure.
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I'm not against killing organisms, I'm against killing something that will soon be a human being.
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A sperm cell will soon be a human being so you must oppose masturbation.
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A sperm cell will eventually become a human being so you must be against masturbation.
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Sperm cells create babies, not become them. I don't think releasing them kills them anyway.
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What I mean to say is sperm cells HELP create babies.
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Fetuses don't have actual feelings so its not killing. Should we make it illegal to step on spiders or ants. Your advocating a police state. Are you against birth control too?
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Spiders and ants are insects and arachnids, not humans.
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Birth control is a separate issue.
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I tell you one law that I want and you tell me I want a police state?
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Why should that be a law it is a family issue not a government issue. You can't tell someone what they should and shouldn't do with their body. That's supporting big government in personal life. I don't think government should be in any aspects of life.
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It's not just about the woman's body, it's also about the baby's life.
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I understand but in life everyone can't get what they want. It's sad that a baby is dieing but its also sad that people are starving to death. When the federal government wants to control the economy and redistribute wealth more people become poor. If the federal government were to make abortion illegal it would be invading private life. Obamacare wants to help people but in the long run it ends up hurting them. I would rather be in heaven and be aborted than grow up without parents to take care of me or grow up living on welfare with no where to go.
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If God wanted us all in Heaven immediately He wouldn't have created Earth.
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Why do innocent people die like in the middle east. The middle east is supposed to be the most peaceful region in the world yet it isn't. In life people die and others survive that's just the way it is. Same thing with abortion some are born and others die. I would know I lost an older brother in childbirth.
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People die and America does whatever we can to stop it; by not making abortion legal I feel like we're just letting it happen.
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I'm sorry, I know how that feels.
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MadMarcus, you and I obviously have a different view of when personhood occurs. The law states that personhood occurs at the time of viability, and I support that definition. I understand the "human life begins at conception" stance. A cell=life, so a human cell must=human life. But we're not talking about a person in the sense of having all the rights that personhood entails. The rights of the mother trump the rights of a non viable entity. We cannot allow babies to be born if we can't be sure that they will be taken care of. We can't fight to make sure all pregnancies result in a birth and then just throw the kids to the wolves. Why aren't more people talking about a real solution? Prevention is the key. We will NEVER stop abortions from happening. Women have been coming up with ways to do it for centuries, but there are ways to reduce abortions.

Somewhere in one of these comments, I posted an article about how abortion rates are higher in places where it's illegal. It's true.Making abortion illegal will not stop it. It would only make female mortality rates skyrocket, and just as many fetuses would still be aborted.
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---The debate was good and I appreciate you have a strong opinion. Seems you have a strong opinion on the issue. ---Thanks its okay. I'm fine now but its one reason I'm pro choice when it comes to all things including abortion.
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Tra - My opinion about fetuses being babies stands still and whatever I conclude will be in favor of the children; but I'll do some research to find out what would most prevent abortions.
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The way you liberals twist words is pathetic. Abortion should be illegal. Women should stop using it as a form of birth control. Plane and simple. I wonder how many of you libs believe in predestination.

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"You liberals"? Which means you must be a conservative, right?

You make the assumption that women are using abortion as a form of birth control. I say, how the heck do you know? Have you walked a mile in their shoes? Do you know what led them to that decision. And furthermore, even if you're right, ask yourself whose fault that would be. Conservatives are ALWAYS the ones against sex education in schools, and affordable and accessible birth control. The key to solving this problem is not to make abortion illegal (which studies show INCREASES abortion) but to educate people about their own reproductive systems and how to prevent pregnancy in the first place. And for god sake conservatives need to stop trying to shame women! It's a disgusting tactic and it obviously doesn't work!

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/health/story/2012-01-18/Higher-abortion-rates-where-its-illegal/52641546/1
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Twnship, you're sick in the head, basically. You're making it a political issue. You're denying the rights of every raped woman in America and blaming liberal politics for shedding light on the issue. And here you wonder why women don't vote Republican. Your insane religious extremism takes precedence over even basic human rights. Forget the rights of the woman who has been forcefully impregnated, no, it's all about the sperm and eggs inside her that will become the baby of her rapist. It's simply incredible that you cannot see how utterly indoctrinated you are that you would ignore the victim for the sake of your damned Bible. Sick. I'm glad you nutjobs are pretty much only an American pestilence. The rest of the first world sighs with relief that your Christian Taliban beliefs are restricted to US politics.
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Blah blah blah. Whatever you just said. Didn't even read it. Especially since my polite comments, but against your views gets deleted. Again protect the murders on death row but no problem with babies. Spin it how ever you want.
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twnship is not a true conservative.because he thinks government should be involved with a woman's body.
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Oh women are voting Republican in drives. They know they are more than body parts and want a leader who knows what he is doing. It's the economy stupid. Your war on woman is nothing more than desperation.
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Government gets involved with murders. Should they just let people kill away since its their right to do so? Be lucky your own mother didn't abort you.
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Richard Mourdock is obviously is not living in the 21th century and he probably won't win the senate race. Andy Horning should be senator of Indiana not Richard Mourdock.

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Yeah I agree it was a little stupid to say but I'm sure he meant the fetus was a gift, not the actual rape.

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Nope he said it was a Gift from God
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That's what I said. The PREGNANCY, not the actual rape. That's a bit far fetched if you think he meant the actual rape was a gift from God ha. But I agree it was probably a stupid thing to say.
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Yes your right MsStina. He said the pregnancy was a Gift from God. The Rape was God's Intent.
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You're twisting things to your advantage. The pregnancy itself is a gift- no one ever called rape or even sex the actual gift from God.
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