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preppyboy:
5 months ago
question for you, what created that other planet? see, this whole theory could work, but God still has to be included somewhere, because that planet cant exist without some other event creating it, and that other event cant exist without another thing creating it, something has to put that domino effect of creation into motion. And God is the only remotely logical explanation for it
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Derek54:
5 months ago
wasnt aware that we found organisms in asteroids.... got any news articles?
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ThatGirlMARZ:
5 months ago
Technically we're born from stars, sounds pretty awesome. I have the same problem so sorry.
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ThatGirlMARZ:
5 months ago
Yes, irritating. "Sorry, this is categorized as information" -___-
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JuliusNova:
5 months ago
Deviantart.com is blocked, youtube is blocked, memecenter is blocked, sometimes google images is blocked...
But trolino isn't... >:D
But trolino isn't... >:D
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ThatGirlMARZ:
5 months ago
Deviantart.com being blocked makes me the saddest. What's trolino?
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ThatGirlMARZ:
5 months ago
I believe that God created the law of conservation of mass, or whatever law it was, that created everything. It's like he did one great thing and watched everything play out from then on.
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Philogenitiveness:
5 months ago
So you cannot explain it so you think it was god?
Explain how he did these then.
Explain how he did these then.
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ThatGirlMARZ:
5 months ago
I can't, I know that. It's just what I believe.
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RobMccullen:
5 months ago
I believe in the Big bang theory. God said it and bang it happened.
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AvatarOfPotatoes:
5 months ago
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How about this, who/what created "GOD".
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JuliusNova:
5 months ago
I'm an atheist, just wanted to see how people would react to this.
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AvatarOfPotatoes:
5 months ago
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God cant be eternal... Everything starts somewhere, god is just a shortcut to bypass that quest.
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Jack_Frost:
5 months ago
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Saying that everything comes from somewhere is true, but its also a paradox, you can not keep doing that forever! Something has to be the beginning, that beginning is God
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AvatarOfPotatoes:
5 months ago
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That beginning isn't god, god doesn't exist. Based off of the definition of existing. Can we touch it? No. Can we hear it? No. Can we feel it? Ignorant people will say yes, but that is just them being blinded by faith.
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Derek54:
5 months ago
im sorry, but it seems you are infringing on the politeness of this conversation. you arent thinking of any other persons point of view. if you would like to base your opinion off of a man made definition of 'existing' then be my guest. if you feel it appropriate to call others ignorant for their beliefs, go ahead- but thats rather impolite and ignorant itself. a wise person would consider all possibilities of creation before downcasting others... im not ignorant, im sure. and i feel my God. you cant see or touch or hear an atom, yet we still believe in its existence, do we not? if religion isnt your thing, and you do not want to be bonded by its general ethics, morals and ideals, and the existence of god is too outlandish for you, then thats okay. just please consider others feelings before you make such an ignorant statement. btw, definition of existence: noun
1.
the state or fact of existing; being.
2.
continuance in being or life; life: a struggle for existence.
3.
mode of existing: They were working for a better existence.
4.
all that exists: Existence shows a universal order.
5.
something that exists; entity; being.
1.
the state or fact of existing; being.
2.
continuance in being or life; life: a struggle for existence.
3.
mode of existing: They were working for a better existence.
4.
all that exists: Existence shows a universal order.
5.
something that exists; entity; being.
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JuliusNova:
5 months ago
Atoms are everything you touch and see everyday. They are matter. You can hear them too. You know when you clank metal together? Iron molecules colliding. And you touch things everyday. YOU are atoms.
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Derek54:
5 months ago
no no no, i mean individual atoms. you cant see, hear, touch, or otherwise acknowledge their existence. our current model of the atom is based on nothing more than educated guesses. now i believe that atoms exist, and i believe that everything is made up of atoms, but i digress. by the way, iron cannot take the form of a molecule, because it is not diatomic, and it is a metal, but they can form ions :) and sound that you hear has to do with sound waves, and the acoustics of your environment more so than the fact of that it is metal
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JuliusNova:
5 months ago
I said molecule because it would be made up of two or more atoms. And rocks make different noises than metal. Just super sayin. And I'm looking at thousand of atoms right now.
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Derek54:
5 months ago
try looking at an individual atom- just super sayin. a metal element cannot be a molecule because a molecule must contain a nonmetal. iron can be an ion though. and sound that you hear deals entirely with a different subject. are you done arguing yet?
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JuliusNova:
5 months ago
Nope. Again, I look at them every day. And you can see individual ones in a partical accelerator. Smashy smashy. And you said you couldn't hear them. I consider collisions hearing them.
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Derek54:
5 months ago
collisions of say, two good sized pieces of metal? that all has to deal with the density of each material, as well as the acoustics of the environment(being in an open area, or an enclosed space) im sorry but i think its quite silly to proclaim "oh, i hear the atoms!" whenever a car crashes into a pole, or a tree falls to the ground, or some toddler is banging pots and pans together. particle accelerators do not allow you to see atoms- they cannot be used as some microscope to view the structure of any subatomic particle. now, scientists can make observations and hypotheses from using the particle accelerator to determine the charges of atoms and how fast atoms may gain or lose energy levels. but you cannot see, with your naked eye, nor through any microscope, the structure of any atom, nor can you hear any individual atom, nor can you feel any individual atom. thats where i stand on this, and if you would like to think something different, go ahead. just dont bother me with it
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Philogenitiveness:
5 months ago
Atoms actually never touch. What we interpret at touching is just the electrons of the items touching, not the items themselves.
^ That's irrelevant.
Your post is just hypocrisy and contradiction.
^ That's irrelevant.
Your post is just hypocrisy and contradiction.
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JuliusNova:
5 months ago
Yep. WHat you feel is Atoms repelling other atoms, you never actually touch anything. You are FEELING the individual atoms.
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Derek54:
5 months ago
if anything, your argument is somewhat fragmented nova, but i digress. my final point before i stop returning to this pointless feed: you cannot see touch or feel individual atoms. you cannot use a particle accelorator to do this. making sounds with metal does not allow you to hear atoms. if atoms made their own sound, you wouldnt be able to hear them because they are too small, and having a large group of them together smashing against another large group of them does not constitute you hearing them. enjoy your holidays, and dont do drugs
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Philogenitiveness:
5 months ago
Irony.
We're misguided, but then you're the one who believes in God.
We're misguided, but then you're the one who believes in God.
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Philogenitiveness:
5 months ago
That's like judging homosexuals because they don't have a huge population.
Oh, wait. Homosexuality is "immoral" in Christianity.
Look at a survey. Countries like Sweden where the majority of the residents do not believe in God, is doing much better as a country than us.
Sweden has not been in a war (entirely) since the 19th century. A.K.A, the 1800s.
Oh, wait. Homosexuality is "immoral" in Christianity.
Look at a survey. Countries like Sweden where the majority of the residents do not believe in God, is doing much better as a country than us.
Sweden has not been in a war (entirely) since the 19th century. A.K.A, the 1800s.
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Sanguine:
5 months ago
Ok. For one, you would think that if this god of yours had existed before the beginning of time itself, then all of the ancients would have worshipped him the minute they became sentient. Instead, most ancients who were religious were polytheistic, or worshipped many gods. Wouldn't they have known about him, and wouldn't he have made himself known to them if they didn't? Also, look at any piece of science or history: we have A.D., which is After Death, and we have B.C...which is Before Christ. Wouldn't the religion of christianity or at least the basis of it have already existed before Christ was ever born, if indeed he was? If not, then this god had to have had a beginning. I have focused mainly on the christian faiths here because you made a reference to a being you called "God", and no other religion has a name like that for their deity.
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Skeptikitten:
5 months ago
Actually the BC/AD system wasn't in use until the 900s, and scholars don't use it anymore. They use BCE/CE ("common era").
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Jack_Frost:
5 months ago
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Ok, there are a couple of things wrong here. Firstly, the ancients were lack-wits. They didnt have the mental capacity to comprehend God as we do today. Secondly, AD doesnt stand for after death, it stands for anno domini "in the year of our lord". Thirdly, there are three religions that worship our God. Islam, Christianity, and Judaism. Fourth, you said that christianity had no basis before christ, and that completely false, the base of christianity is Judaism. Even our holy doctrine is based off of theirs. The old testament of the bible is the torah. Learn your facts before you advertise them.
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Skeptikitten:
5 months ago
The ancients were "lack wits" yet you take their scriptures as truth? Makes so much sense.
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Jack_Frost:
5 months ago
im speaking of ancients, not of the people that wrote the bible. there's a BIG time gap.
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Skeptikitten:
5 months ago
Funny, but most ancient cultures and civilizations were far more advanced than the Hebrews- they were largely illiterate desert nomads while the Egyptians, Sumerians, and Babylonians all enjoyed high culture.
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Jack_Frost:
5 months ago
your definition of "ancients" and mine appear to differ quite a bit. He talks about ancients at the beginning of time (i.e. "as soon as they became sentient). The humans at the dawn of time WERE lack-wits. They weren't these great civilizations, those didn't come until MUCH MUCH later. The very first humans didn't have the mental capacity to understand God, much less build fantastical empires.
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Jack_Frost:
5 months ago
thats why i dont find that argument applicable
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Skeptikitten:
5 months ago
You don't use the correct term. What you are referring to ate "prehistoric a" not ancients. Ancient still implies civilization in scholarly terms. What does this have to do with the idea of gods anyway? Most high civilizations from that time were polytheistic. In fact the Hebrews were largely illiterate nomads with no advancements in science, art, or culture. Compared to their contemporaries THEY were the "lack wits".
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God is a made up being to ease the fear of death, and give people under the fallacy of ignorance a reason for everything.
Where is you support? Backup? Proof?
But anyway:
Big Bang, proven fact how the universe came to be.
Evolution - Proven fact leading up to our creation and existence.
Prove this Tilma of Juan Diego happened. There is more evidence proving God false then true. Wait for a bit, science will prove your false being fake.
Yes we believe it happened but there is no real or hard evidence of it.
Alright, it's what you believe.
Actually the big band theory is STILL a theory. There is not hard evidence yet but proof that it's highly possible.
Break doesn't have the same chemical makeup as human skin.
there is your article on the tilma, but the big bang theory cannot work without God, something has to create that explosion, and evolution is not proven either.
I know, that's what I believe (as you can see in my answer below) but there there still could be something that created that explosion that we don't know about yet.
Yes, but it's also in our moral code to treat those with respect and to let them find their own way to God while we stand as examples.
It happened because all matter in the universe was compacted and pressured.
Noun
1.A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be...: "Darwin's theory of evolution"
It's close but not close enough. What JuliusNova said.
2. Evolution is NOT a proven theory. Firstly, Where are the missing links? Secondly, why did it stop? I dont see us evolving anymore. Third, evolution states that for some reason apes got BETTER, they evolved into humans. Yet, if you look at, well, all of nature, things always get worse. Erosion, our bodies, everything! To believe in evolution is to believe that for some reason mother nature did the exact opposite of what she has ALWAYS done and is still doing today, and made is better. This doesnt make any sense.
Neither of these theories are proven, at all.
NOW. The eucharistic miracle, that is not a theory. That is a historical, real occurrence.
If your a so-called christian, why are you working against us???
That's Darwin's theory not evolution. We have progressed over time that's why we have found better ways to live and new inventions to use.
I'm not working against you.
@JackSolomon -
We are evolving. It is a very long process. Bugs are becoming resistant to bug spray. That is adaptation, which is Evolution.
Science cannot explain where the matter came from. That doesn't mean that it was your false God. dat ignorance.
@preppyboy -
You act like the theory said that one second, an animal is a fish, the next, a squirrel. That is not possible.
Adaptations for time, turning a fish to a squirrel is possible. Evolution does not say we came from apes, it says we are on the same tree as apes.
Is there evidence of God's existence? There is more evidence denying him then actually supporting.
So you mean the Theory of Gravity only makes sense if God is included?
Sounds like the fallacy of ignorance to me.