Absolutely not. Any atheist will tell you evidence is the reason to believe things for which there is none for why we should be christian. It would not be far out of my way to "quit sinning" if out of my way at all- I simply have no desire to place special emphasis on my actions and act like its special. By the guilty looks on many Christians faces I imagine I live a more ethical lifestyle then most, hurt less people, cheat less etc... I abstain entirely from adultery, murder, theft etc... and live by the law even encouraging troubled youth from a place of respectability, even to those who are not easily reached but by others like them, to live well with their futures at heart. Most atheist, if not all, simply have no reason to believe Christianity is anything more than mental illness or just a word.
You don't need a book or a priest to tell you the difference between right and wrong. One definite reason is if you are not brought up as a christian then the creation stories and bible are hard to swallow. Just as you would view hinduism for example. To people not forced into any religion all the different creation stories are just silly. This is something most people forced into a religion at birth would not understand.
I don't believe so. Being an atheist or of another religion other than christian doesn't automatically mean they are sinners, or don't want to stop sinning. Many, including myself, prefer to have faith in the theory of evolution, because there is lots of solid historical proof dug up from the ground, such as dinosaur bones, and the skeletons and tools of early humans. Its easier for me to believe it, and I find it interesting. And being a christian doesn't automatically mean they are less likely to sin. I'm sure you've heard about all the priests fiddling with young boys. Priests of all people for gods sake, the ones who stand there and tell you not to sin. And some of the writings in the bible are very debatable as to whether or not it is a good thing.
"Quit sinning"? That isn't even a factor. Do you think people are atheist because they can't handle the stress of being a nice person? People are nice and good people because it's human nature to get along and to cooperate and be empathetic. I am atheist because religions are cultural mythologies passed around from one society to another and there is no evidence that any God exist or anything else supernatural.
I think Christians would be a lot better off if they opened their minds to having a conversation in person with those whose belief systems are different from theirs. From all these, and other assumptions about atheists, it sounds like, in the absence of real information, Christians make up the most awful details of atheists lives. Please stop making things up. The intelligent, articulate, and entirely literate atheists on this site do a fine job of explaining themselves when they react to discriminatory questions.
This isn't even a real question. Betty has posted this comment so she can proselytize........no other reason. ~ This is a very sad thing that some christians on this site seem to do quite a bit of. No other religious affiliations seem to do this on Ask. It is always the same 5 to 10 people. ~ Why is this type of post acceptable and when an atheist says there is no god, they are considered haters and sinful? Isn't one of the credos of christianity to accept others and not judge? Why are these same christians judging everyone who does not believe as they do? ~ (continued in comment section)
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I think most who object to the beliefs of Christianity object because they simply aren't convinced and don't believe in God or anything connected to God .. not just because they don't want to live an ethical life. Even non Christians can have very ethical standards. Christianity is not the defining factor of a person's character.
We have to remember as in any faith, there are levels of believers. Some follow the "Word' to the letter, blindly and without prejudice .. and some, pick and choose which 'rules' to include in their day to day living , yet people from both sides of the scale can claim themselves to be a follower of any faith.
We also have to remember .. no one is perfect ... not even Christians. Even the most devoutly professed Christians sin on one level or another (as far as the Christian's understanding of the term "sin" is concerned) .. that includes those that hold elevated positions in the Church .. Ministers, Priests, Pastors .. even Popes.
Sin, as put forth in Christian doctrine, covers so much of human thought and action that non-sinning is an absolute impossibility. Therein comes the contrivance of an all-forgiving God, to save us from ourselves, and as a side effect, feed a class of pseudo nobility -the clergy. The glaring absence of tangible evidence in which to place one's faith in scripture is certainly a much larger contingency than the refusal to stop all types of sinning which I noted before is simply beyond human capability. Simply an arrogant question to imply those under the spell of Christianity have given up all sinning, therefore everyone else must not have because they are not one of you.
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I have heard this from you before Betty, so, I'll try to make myself understood more clearly.. Atheists do not think of "sin" the way you do Betty. Most of us answer moral imperatives, but not Christian constructs. I was raised a Catholic, but by my mid-teens learned to think for myself. I can assure you, I never had thoughts like: "Oh Gosh, I wanna be a Christian SO bad, but if I do, I'll have to give up all my Atheist sinning.." Tell the truth..According to your Bible are we not ALL sinners? Since that is the case, how is anyone a Christian if all of this flagrant sinning excludes you from being one? By the way, I feel I must admit I find your question a bit smug and offensive. Yes, we are all horrible people who don't believe exactly what you do..
No, its a veil covering their understanding. They need & want proof, but proof is in the eye of the beholder. As much as some believe with every inch of their being, just because they were open & accepting, so they were shown Gods secrets. So it is with the non believers, they can't see, they don't have it within themselves to wish to see. What they do see is TRUTH to them.
Why not insist we all still believe in Ancient Greek, Roman or Norse mythology? Seriously, isn't bible study a better outlet for the proselytizing? The thinly disguised, silly questions are getting stranger by the minute.
In the 1950s and 60s as a Christian, I was taught that not only were atheists the spawn of the devil, but they were also communists. At least the first part is still alive and well today, being perpetrated, as I did as a Christian at that time, despite the fact that atheists can be as moral and ethical as any Christian--sometimes more so. Let's look at a couple of the comments so far...
[Atheists] "would rather ignore that they're wrong" (Angelfire). To ignore that we are wrong would require us to think Christianity is right. We could say the same thing about Christians, be we understand that they are beyond certain that they are right. They live in a culture which reinforces that mindset every day.
"[T]hey don't have it within themselves to wish to see" (ShayJay) We actually do wish to see--the truth. In fact, that is why so many of us have left religion. We compared what religion had to offer with what natural compassion and intellect had to offer and "saw" that religion was unnecessary.
I beg all the other atheists here to forgive me for perpetrating this lie about them for the first 19 years of my life. I am doing what I can to undo that damage.
I am a Muslim and trust me I follow the teachings of Jesus more than most Christians who feel religion is an obligation rather than a way of life (e.g Islam). After all Jesus was a Jew and like Judaism, Islam rejects Incarnation, Original Sin, trinity and salvation through crucifiction, and instead insists on making the world a better place through intentions and actions that reflect justice, compassion and mercy.
"Let there be no compulsion in religion". Quran 2:256
This poses a problem. I find that Christians seem to think they have a corner on morality, and this is 100% not true. Moral laws were "on the books", so to speak long before the abrahamic/mosaic laws were written, in Egypt, Babylon, Sumer, and India to mention a few. The Vedas of Hindu predate the Torah by about 2000 years, the same goes for the Egyptian laws. Just because someone is not Christian does not make them an immoral person. They just do not buy into the same god as you do.