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"Is it good to have close friendships with unbelievers?"

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this is actually one of the dumbest questions i have ever seen on here, that aside, when choosing friends, their religion is not going to matter at all. you are not somehow better than them just because you believe and they dont, all people are sinners, and we are all in this boat together, so its best we help eachother. seriously, this is one of the few times i actually agree with @truthisobvious up there, he said it in a sarcastic way, but i'll be blunt here, religion shouldnt really matter much when choosing friends. if you think that all people who dont share your religion, or are atheist, are going to hell, you have a serious issue, while its true that the only way to the Father is through the Son, if one fails to believe in this life, through God's eternal mercy, they will most likely be given an opportunity to make up for that in the next, God judges us individually, not on the wholesale, what this question could be changed to, and imply, is the question "is it okay to have close friendships with black people, if you are white?". and that my friend, is not a question that should ever be asked, or even worried about.

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For calling my question one of the dumbest questions you have ever seen on here you should read this...

The book of Proverbs has a few wise verses on believers befriending non-believers: "The righteous should choose his friends carefully, for the way of the wicked leads them astray" (12:26). We should stay away from foolish people (13:20, 14:7), from people who lose their temper easily (22:24), and from the rebellious (24:21). All these things represent those who have not been saved. "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?" (2 Corinthians 6:14). First Corinthians 15:33 tells us that bad company corrupts good character. Unbelievers are slaves to sin (John 8:34), and Christians are slaves to God (1 Corinthians 7:22). If we become deeply involved (either by friendship or a romantic relationship) with non-Christians, we are setting ourselves up for turmoil. It can (and does often) cause the Christian to stumble in his walk, fall back into a sinful life, and also turn others away from God (by misrepresenting God and Christianity). Another detrimental effect of closeness with unbelievers is our tendency to water down the truths of Scripture so as to not offend them. There are difficult truths in the Word of God, truths such as judgment and hell. When we minimize or ignore these doctrines or try to ?soft pedal? them, in essence we are calling God a liar for the sake of those already in the grasp of Satan. This is not evangelism.
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and yet, neither is giving up on someone based on a religious difference, no human being is in the grasp of satan until they die, until that point, i will do my best to lead the people who are walking towards him, away from that, the righteous are merciful, and compassionate, keep that in mind.
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Preppy boy, this IS the dumbest question that I've seen in days!
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Amen! Pontes
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Good job preppy. Good to see a tolerant Christian.
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I believe it is all in the character of the person. One of my best and closest friends is an atheist. Most are shocked when I tell them that but it is true. Religion only goes as far as the morality of the individual. Beyond that it shouldn't be a concern. The problem only comes when choosing a life-long partner (i.e wife)
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I can't believe I agree with preppy on something.
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I think it's a very good question. And you made a good point with your scriptures. Good to be wise. But. We can be friends with people of different beliefs. If a person is a baby believer, they may not be strong enough and can get easily swayed and tossed as the scriptures talk about.
Wrath, I agree with you. I'm always amazed at my friend who continually date and marry nonchristian men. I can't grasp it. ( marry, divorce, marry divorce , marry over and over) sigh..
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Christians actually have a far worse divorce rate than anyone else- particularly fundamentalists. She'd be better off marrying an atheist- we divorce less often. Among other things
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I love unbelievers I find that they are a lot nicer than some Christians here on ask.com same on you people who don't answer in a nice way, but I forgive anyway.
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great answer and I admire your passion here. Thx for letting me know :)
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Yeah,its no problem. :)

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No ! probably not.

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If it doesn't effect you and make you start unbelieving also then I think you should be ok.

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It's not good to hang out with them. Unless your trying to witness to them. The saved & unsaved do not go together

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i laugh at your ignorance, do you honestly believe that people who dont believe exactly what you do are going to hell? all people are sinners, and no person is "saved" until they sit on the seat of judgement and are judged based on their merit before God.
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Look. I am a Christian. But you shouldn't mingle with unbelievers. It's good to witness to them. I don't want anyone going to hell. But the simple fact is if they are not saved that's where they are going
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you arent saved either buddy, no human being on earth is, whether we go to heaven or hell, is determined in the next life, not this one, NO, human being has the predestination of heaven or hell.
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Looks like you haven't been reading your bible. When you accept Jesus into your heart right then you are saved. After you die it's too late
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this is why i'm not a fan of protestants, always solo scriptura, trying to interperet the word of God as if they actually understand things. arrogance in its biggest epitome. the Bible is not the know all source for everything just so you know, and the Bible that you use, is missing seven books, and alot of verses, oh, and its been altered to fit protestant doctrines, you might want to try reading a douay-rheims instead of a KJV. you are not "saved" as soon as you say "oh jesus, i love you" you are saved when God judges you individually, based on your actions in this life, and gives you a positive verdict. and that judgement happens, after this life, what you are advocating is that God created some people just so he could punish them with the agony of hell. God is merciful, not cruel, and you are saying that God is cruel.
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mustang78: I agree with you.
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preppy it is you who does not know the Word Of God. Therefore it isn't such a dumb question cause you can't even give the right answer.
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Why the hell not? It's only a belief!
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Disrespecting a friend's right to believe as they choose or not at all is a hallmark of a poor friend. Witnessing to a friend unsolicited is rude and disrespectful.

I would never try to deconvert my religious friends and they would never try to convert me, but that's because we actually respect each other.
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Preppy..."For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord will be saved." 1 Corinth. 1:2 and Romans 10:13.
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again, as i have said before, you are arrogant to believe that you can fully understand the words in the bible, and also, since the bibles we have are translations, there can be minor errors in them, and finally, so you actually believe that you will go to heaven, just because you say "jesus, i love you"?
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What does it mean to be saved, preppy? I quoted scripture and you quoted me on something I never said. How can I be arrogant by quoting a scripture and drawing a conclusion? How can it make anyone arrogant? If I am arrogant, how are you not arrogant ? It's irrelevant.
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"he who does not know, and does not know that he does not know, is a fool, shun him" you are the epitome of that quote, good day
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Btw..we have multiple versions to compare with so unless we are going forget about the english translations to learn Greek and Hebrew, then what else are we going to do? The question is...what does "saved" mean in those passages? It certainly doesn't mean " being drowned in a lake."
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Preppy is right. Not all who claim to believe & prophesy in his name & cast out demons in his name willl be saved. BEWARE, not to fool yourselves. Christ's blood does redeem us, but not all that THINK they are saved, are.
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Those who do the Will of the Father are. Preppy doesn't believe a person can have the assurrance of Salvation. The Bible is very clear on mumberous scrpitures that you can be.
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whats funny is he says he is saved, but tells me that because i'm Catholic, i am going to burn
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That's correct preppy cause you don't serve the true God. :-) Tell me do you know what it means to be Born-Again and if not then that proves my point. I hope and pray you find the truth before you die.
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ah, but i do serve the true God, and i follow the religion he founded, if you truly are so righteous as you claim, then you would not attempt to usurp God's authority by claiming to have the power to condemn people.
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Careful you might catch atheist! In fact even reading my answer here could turn you :0

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Hey, truth, I thought you said atheism isn't contagious! Lol! Your answers are pretty powerful so...who knows?
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It's a KTD- knowledge transmitted disease.
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Skeptikitten, clever response!
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lmao kitten

thx js :j
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Actually a good answer from TIO as well as Kitten's KTD.

I still have contact with some ex-Askers and, with your permission Kitten, I'll pass that to them.
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Sure.
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thx dozy, I merely meant to be my snide and condescending self and yet when pointed in this direction I look like a wise man to even those who often disagree with me :j
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Bwahahaha Skeptikitten!!! KTD!!!! Glad there is no cure for it!!!
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Truth, we all adore you !
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That's a sweet thing to say rathe :j ur charming yourself ;)
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Unfortunately my Activity button doesn't work so i miss all this good stuff unless I happen to stumble across it again by chance. I am now one of your stalkers, TIO. (I've been stalking the Kitten for some time.)
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It's ok for me.

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its not good. read the bible for an answer

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No I wouldn't say it's necessarily good, because the people your around influence you when you don't even know it. However, maybe God placed them in your life so you could evangelize to them:)

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Evangelizing to people proves you aren't their friend in the first place because you don't respect their right to believe as they choose.
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I rarely talk about God when I'm around people. I basically don't want them to know by my words but by HOW I live my life. Actions speak louder than words..:)
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So thinking for ourselves and deciding what we believe and don't believe makes us unworthy? Judge not lest ye be judged. See, we can quote it too.

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DeepDark, that's my point exactly. If I'm not good enough to be a friend, forget me joining your church.
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You should have friends of all kinds. The world is full of people of different beliefs. If you really want to get along you should accept and try to understand. It doesn't mean you will believe any less. Often times it will strengthen your own belief.

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Great answer!
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It doesn't really matter. I'm an atheist and my best friend is christian. She knows I don't believe in god, but she doesn't really care. She still believes in him and we've been good friends for 3 years.

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Good answer!
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Why not? God loves everyone. If He can love a non-believer, why can't you?

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God even loves me??????
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God loves you, I love you, Mikale especially loves you... And the list goes on.
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Awwwwwww 8)
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NAFTA, why wouldn't God love you? I personally think you base friendship on compatibility rather than beliefs. :)
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candybar, this is a very good point!
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Thank you.
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What constitutes an "unbeliever"?? Technically speaking we are all born unbelievers and then taught to believe.....so in that sense we were all unbelievers at one point.....also, the purpose is to spread the word, not keep it confined to believers only.....so the real question is "is your faith strong enough to hang out with unbelievers?"......

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Awesome answer! Does He love me too??
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Last time I checked you were on the "LOVED" list 8)
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That gives me the the willies.
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That is exactly what I was thinking: Is your faith strong enough? That truly is the question. Awesome response!
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I come up with a gem from time to time 8)
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And so modest, too! Lol!
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Hey, NAFTA, I like you....That's the best I can do, man. Sorry, but the Posse is watching and Deputy Roger would not be happy if I joined in with everyone and said I love you! Lol!
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So I see....ya'll are hittin it off huh? 8)
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Yes, we seem to be hittin' it off pretty good! I just couldn't resist a Posse remark, but I couldn't remember the full name. Sorry!
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You should have the freedom to be friends with whomever you choose. People that say they follow jesus and the bible, (if that is your belief) Have forgotten that he dined with thieves, and prostitutes, even when he wasn't preaching to them. One was even his girlfriend. Exclusion is what he fought against in the temples.

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Dined with thieves indeed......lead by example, and by hanging with them but NOT acting like them he was doing just that....
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Yes, very important point Indeed. Did you have a nice day yesterday NAFTA?
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It was a LAZY day......watched Christmas Story a LOT......napped a little.....all in all it was good 8) Things good over yonder?
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yes. basically I was your twin on Christmas Day. hahaha.
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8) Did you watch Christmas Story too???
I picked up Christmas Story 2 and I haven't watched it yet though...
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Yes I did. It is my favorite Christmas movie. I also watched Home Alone, Me myself,& Irene and Alfred Hitchcock presents. I was a lounge lizard yesterday:):)
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Glad to know I wasn't alone, cuz I felt sort of bummy.....
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There's nothing wrong with treating yourself to a day of laziness. It's good for the brain.
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Well said, OP
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Winetaster : who was His girlfriend ?
Jesus I mean ?
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Thanks B.
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Mary Magdalene was one of them. Jesus was a pretty likable guy with the ladies. Even back then women loved rebels.
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And seriously.....a guy that could turn water into wine......you KNOW he's gettin the ladies!!!!
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Hahahahaha. They say wine is the blood of christ, I guess I'm filled with Jesus then. lol
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OMG......That's.....disturbingly hilarious!! 8)
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OUCH, I was just struck by lightning!
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Yeah.....I can see why 8) HA!!
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Hey, we are hear to entertain them. (God/Jesus) They chuckle at stuff we do and say all the time, kind of like the moderators. lol
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I think it is very good to have athiest friends. I have many. We just don't talk Jesus talk. They know where I stand & I know where they stand.
Friendship is very valuable.

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Darn right. :)
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I agree.
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Good side of you Betty :)
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"Of course. They are people too."

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If you don't have friendships with unbelievers, why would unbelievers ever want to believe like you do? If I felt like I wasn't good enough to be your friend, I would think that I'm not good enough to be part of your religion. As far as "close" friendships, I guess that would be your call. I would like to think I could be a good friend and a good example.

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Heck no. I don't believe in god and one of my closest friends are Christian. The religion annoys me but it doesn't affect our friendship. :)

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Then you mean yes! :)
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Oh.... Well: "Heck ya!" :)
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Let me ask you this... Did Jesus hang out only with the righteous? No, he always put himself in the path of those who needed his help.

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It doesn't matter. This is truly the dumbest question on here. It's like asking is it okay to have Saudi Arabian girl friends just because they cover their faces with something. Of course it's okay! Stop being so judgmental!

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Pontes, I think this is yet another inappropriate question that makes you sound very isolated in your knowledge and experience.
Would you ask if it is okay to have friendships with black people, or white people, the disabled, Jews, homophobes, gays, lesbians, Haitians, Russians, people with tattoos, teenagers, short people, or those who wear glasses due to poor eyesight?
Of course not because it would be very clear that your racist soul was showing. It is showing.
Stop your racist agenda against atheists please. Your seething animosity against nonbelievers is offensive. You are embarrassing your own community.

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Nice point there.
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Hey, you are from Thunder Bay!
I'm from Kitchener-Waterloo.
We're practically kin!
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Great response. Hopefully, your advice will be heeded!
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You go, Rathkeale!
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Rathkeale, good job.
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Waterloo NY? I'm from Rochester and my parents have a cottage on Catuga Lake.
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These types of posts are very tiresome.
They are not even real Qs, just a statement the poster wants to make.
This is part of the reason so many of us left before.
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Beautifully put, Rath. Doesn't leave much more to be said. Go read Skeptikitten's comment under TruthisObvious's answer, above. It's a classic.
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I went. I read. Skeptikitten writes wonderful, poignant responses.
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You'd make me blush if I had any shame left.
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Skeptikitten, obviously we adore you. (ITD). Love it.
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I greatly appreciate that you call this q as it is. There is suffering for this kind of ignorance and you show a powerful conviction to altruism by pointing that out rath. You deserve praise.
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Truth, thank you so much. You are so respected in this forum and your answers so insightful and well-written, that praise from you is high praise indeed. I am going to keep this up. I know racism when I read it. I am not going to let it go.
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The bible says to Love all mankind. And it says to treat everyone the same. Like even your enemies. But it also says not to have fellowship with children of darkness. Meaning your not to run or hang out with them.

2 Corinthians 6:11-18

Be Holy

11 O Corinthians! We have spoken openly to you, our heart is wide open.12 You are not restricted by us, but you are restricted by your own affections.13 Now in return for the same (I speak as to children), you also be open.

14 Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers.For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness? 15 And what accord has Christ with Belial? Or what part has a believer with an unbeliever? 16 And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said:

"I will dwell in them
And walk among them.
I will be their God,
And they shall be My people."

17 Therefore

"Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you."
18 I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the Lord Almighty.

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Amen James, I also have a lot of unbelieving friends but I'm not influenced by them and I love them very much, and I always pray for them...I praise God for teaching us the truth.
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There is a need for caution. To remain close friends with someone, you need to share that one's interests and values. If you forge close friendships with people who don't adhere to your scriptural beliefs and standards, such association is bound to affect your conduct. (Proverbs 13:20) Be cordial with your peers. Learn to communicate well with them. However, resist the urge to let your speech and conduct conform to your friends. Instead explain to them why you choose to live by bible standards.-2 Timothy 2:25.

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If you choose your friends based on their religion, you aren't a very good friend to start with.

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this is true. I have many atheist friends. my world is not black or white but thousands of shades of grey
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I'd question there ability to hold interpersonal relationships altogether.
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My best friend is an atheist. It doesn't even matter as long as they have a moral compass

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This is nice :j
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You seriously need to reconsider if you are a follower of a belief system that separates. Isn't that the reason for many wars and bloodsheds?

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A friend of mine had a dream about a mom who's kids were at our kids school. The dream was that she was from out of town and she was suppose to be friends with her. Her dream was correct. We became friends with her. She was an athiest ( her husband was a Christian) we felt we were suppose to be friends with her and just love her. I think we need to be this to all people. :) but, it's okay to be selective on whom our really close friends are.

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How does this question have dozens of responses?
I try to be friends with every nerd I meet. And if they aren't a nerd, I lend them some of mine.

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amen, I think
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Look, its got to be your choice. Most of my family are, well, partial believers, & they are loud & boisterous. Most believers probably wouldn't dine with them, but man, I love who they are, they are my friends, my confidants. I feel comfortable around them, they know me & I know them.

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ShayJay: I give you 100 stars for your answer...thank you.
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Glad I could help.
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To remain close friends with someone, you need to share the same interests and values as that person. If you become close with people who do not share your same spiritual beliefs and standards, your conduct is bound to be affected (Proverbs 13:20)

The Bible is quite clear where our close associates should be, 2 Corinthians 6:14-7:1 gives clear direction, Verse 14 says "do not become unevenly yoked with unbelievers",

God has not changed over the years just because society has changed. He still wants his congregation to remain clean.

Jesus was a great example, His main focus was helping people. In Matthew chapter 9:9-13 the Pharisees observed Jesus reclining at a table with sinners and tax collectors, when asked about this Jesus said "Persons in health do not need a physician, but the ailing do." So Jesus' association with them was to help them gain a healthy relationship with God, not just hang out. It is obvious, we are supposed to help others come to know God, being careful, though, that our beliefs are not tainted by ungodly views. Discernment is necessary.

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ksanaug28: I give you 100 stars for your answer...Thank you.
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When they think like you do surely problems will arise.
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1 Cor.15:33 Do not be mislead bad associations spoil useful habits.

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