Well you seem to forget that this is not one sided. I have too many religious people telling me that god is real, and I'm going to go to hell everywhere I go. I can't even tell my parents that I'm an atheist, because they would think I'm an evil person and disown me.
Don't make massive assumptions about a certain group of people, because you will almost always be wrong.
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I feel 'ya...but I'm waiting for a riot to start about how God is real coming on this question.
its not just atheists. i am Muslim and i have had more Christians do that to me then atheists.
its the individual person, not the actual religion. its just closes mindedness, nothing more.
That´s the society, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.
All you need to do is focus on what you believe, and not
let what people say get to you. Period.
Stupid, I know. I always try to be not at all judgmental on that subject, and the only time I'll criticize someone is after they criticize me. But honestly, none of us really know.
They can't help it. Their blinded to the truth. Don't act surprised about it. Jesus said these things would happen. Just pray God opens their eyes before it's to late.
It would be irresponsible for those of us who have seen it for the con that it is to let others keep being suckered into it.
First off not all atheist are like that second off some Christians are like that to you can't judge all atheist on what some do!!! I am a atheist and I don't do that unless they start a fight than I will defend myself!!!
Try not to lose faith in Atheists devilcupcakes! I realize that sounds weird, but there are atheists out there who are perfectly at peace with people of faith, and believe that everyone has a right to their own opinion. Maybe these people are generally less inclined to discuss religion which is why you may not have met any yet? It could also have something to do with if they were brought up to be accepting of others beliefs. But I won't stick up for Atheists who criticize anyone else for their chosen beliefs, it offends me too, because they give all us Atheists a bad reputation.
My input on this. I am Christian, but not just atheists are very loud, rude, and offensive when it comes to religion. Some are very respectful about your beliefs, just like you are respectful of theirs. But, Christians also are very loud, rude and offensive, when it comes to people saying that they don't believe in God. It really goes both ways.
From what I see, whenever there is a tragedy, the President or whoever is speaking out about it must say a prayer to God. If he dares to say he doesn't believe in God, I don't want to think what will happen...
When you look at the history of christian bigotry and have tons of christians tell you that you deserve to be tortured for eternity, instill false beliefs into children, tons of christians that see it as their mission to stop certain couples from marrying, christians saying that kids deserve to burn in hell, christian creationists trying to force creationism into schools to weaken this counties failing schools even further, christians saying aids are better than condoms, then christians have the nerve to go and knock on my door when I keep telling them to go away, and so much more. Stuff like this seems to eliminate any sympothy for christianity and when someone is trying advocate any of these things or say that they're true then I will absolutely refute them.
She answered the question technically...
that's exactly what i mean in my details about how atheist demand this "proof". it's getting ridiculous.
Good chat guys, see ya.
But if they say it's a FACT that 900 year old men existed then I will correct them.
trusty - you've been doing that since the very first time I've seen you.
All the above answers are awesome. The thing is some of us believe that there's only one truth and that's what I believe in. Now that's when we get loud and pushy. I have to admit that I have received random calls and my door were knocked on at like 8 am on a Saturday by people who tried to sell me their belief system. Now that I find loud, pushy and aggressive.
But I guess there are people like that following every different belief system out there.
At the end of the day, it's not really that hard. A lot of us are doing it. Believe what you have to believe and let others believe their own.
It means atheist are well prepared and you being a believer you just don't know how to defend yourself. It is because of lack of knowledge of our own religion, but we are not an expert so ask them to contact some person who is an expert in that field they and they only satisfy them.
Your whole question was biased, insulting, and quite frankly the opposite of reality.
How would you react to a 20 year old man that still believed in Santa Claus? Would you respect his choice and leave him be, or would you point out the error in his judgement? What if he and others like him wanted the story of Santa to be taught in schools? What if he wanted to force everyone to live by a certain code of conduct and morals based around Santa? If you can be empathetic while reading this answer then you may understand why some see the faithful as, well...... childish.
Cupcake, when was last time a team of atheists came to your door uninvited & tried to convert you to atheism? When was the last time an atheist told you that you were going to burn in hell for all eternity? I seriously doubt you will meet many atheists who are even interested to the subject unless you bring it up first. If you are experiencing difficulties in this regard, could it be that you are seeking validation for your beliefs from the wrong sources?
Perhaps because so many religious people are out trying to convert people left and right, claiming anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs is immoral, and pushing their beliefs into our laws, school, and government. Religious differences cause vast amounts of war and violence. And in America it's not atheists pushing beliefs at everyone and hating those different- according to recent research we are the most hated and mistrusted minority in the US thanks to the intolerance of the Christian majority.
Atheists aren't trying to deconvert anyone. We just want believers to keep their religion to themselves. You must be suffering from severe confirmation bias to think it's atheists and not religious people causing these problems.
Or do you, like so many, think it's fine for the religious to attempt to convert others but no one else.
And perhaps we just want to share the wonders of reality with you. But somehow Christians consider pushing their beliefs on us unasked "helping" and us simply stating what we think "insulting". The hypocrisy is a bit nauseating.
Recent research has shown that the a enrage Americans think RAPISTS are more trustworthy than atheists. So spare me the "love" line- we've all experienced too much hate at the hands of believers to buy it.
I travel a lot for work and find it strange how the laws are around the country. Down in the south you run into dry counties, why? Because the Christians want it that way. I've seen what are called "blue laws" that limit what can be bought and what time of the day they can be bought especially on Sundays, why? Because Christians want you in church instead of the stores. So tell me, who's shoving their ideals and beliefs at people? The Christians. What should it matter to someone else if I want a beer on Sunday, or if I want to buy a shirt on a Sunday morning? Trust me it's not atheists spewing their beliefs, it's Christians.
Kwojcik and Kitten make very good points. You may find this hard to believe but I almost never talk about religion or atheism or my personal philosophy unless somebody brings it up first.
Then when I log onto Ask there are all manner of non-questions that are really only thinly veiled attempts to push the questioner's own beliefs.
I understand that, if you belong to an evangelical denomination, you've been told to "go out onto the highways and the by-ways and compel us to come in", but you have to realise that most of us don't want to come in. What seems like a mission of mercy to you feels like silly intrusion to us.
Don't think for a moment that because we are non-religious, or anti-religious, that we don't know our Bibles. I quoted Luke's Gospel in that last paragraph ... did you even notice?
We have found a better lifestyle than sucking up to a Celestial Bogeyman in case he's having a bad hair day when we arrive at the Great White Throne.
Sorry, Cupcake, but if it's big and grey, has a trunk and tusks at one end and a tail at the other, it's an elephant. You can call it a squirrel if you choose, but the rest of us will see an elephant.
If you want to bang on about your religion you can call it a plea for understanding, but the rest of us will see it as beating the drum.
Everyone who has strong beliefs, holds them strongly because they not only believe they are the best for them, but for everybody else, whether they are or not. They are speaking for themselves. Decide what you strongly believe.......and speak for yourself. You may be right or wrong, but you must have the freedom to discover that.
Religion makes people do really stupid things, like blowing themselves up, like mutilating their children's genitals, like rejecting science, like giving their money away to convicted con artists.
Religion is whole bunch of bad ideas strung together, and the only way we can hold these bad ideas in our heads, is to teach our children not to be able to filter out bad ideas. And instead of teaching them how to think, teaching them what to think and not questioning it.
The good news is that religious people are already atheist about 99.99% of the religions in the world, they know they are wrong. They just don't know the one they believe in is also wrong... yet.
no religion is "wrong" as you say.
That is too bad that you get offended by every atheist you meet. In the real world, atheist are a VAST minority.
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I am the only atheist I have ever met in my everyday life ...... I am 48 years-old. I am surrounded by christians. They all think it is "sad" that I have not found god or jesus.
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That is great that your religion works for you. To each his own.
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However, the christian faith says you need to bring in the flock. That puts people of your faith in a bad position because NO OTHER FAITH tells their believers/followers to do so. If someone is interested in your faith, let them come to you and ask....do not be so eager to try to convert. I am not attacking you personally, I am just stating that christians in general are told to convert.
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In my experience, christians are the only ones who see a person with no faith as lacking. No other faith makes these assumptions about an atheist...in the real world or anywhere I have been on line. (more in comment section....)
Atheists have been waiting for people to realize that they have no NEED for a faith. They are not lacking in anything and are fulfilled by other experiences in life. Most atheist (I have met many outside of my everyday life) are very respectful until being told they need to be saved or that they are lacking something in their lives.
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Cupcakes...try to be a bit more open minded. Maybe the atheists you have met have been told soooo many times that they are lacking that when you bring up religion it is just the last straw for them. Try seeing things from their perspective.
No one can understand what an intention is. We can only read what you posted. I have been very patient with you. Maybe some others have not, but you have no reason to be upset with I wrote.
All you have to do is look at the religious threads on this site and you will see that it is christians (not all christians) that are promoting the hate and anger. If you do not think as they do, you are lacking, evil, hateful, sinful, need to find god, just need to look at the bible, and on and on and on....No other religion does this. Not Buddhists, Muslim, Hindu, Taoist, etc. Do you really want a discussion on religion or do you just want people to tell you what you want to hear? Wouldn't it be pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything? There would be nothing to discuss.
As a non-religious person,I'm classified as an atheist because I simply don't practice religion of any type. I find religion flawed and childish. Thats it. Those who find comfort in worship of a god should do so and be left alone about it, just as those who abstain from religion as I do. Unfortunately, the zealots who believe they 'spread the news' of their faith, are instead imposing their views on the unwilling, often with epic condescension in tow. This brings about pointed discussion, or frequently, offended reactions on deep held values. History proves which side is which.
You clearly have no clue about the persecution of atheist and are perpetuating it your self. Your being a rabble rouser and a hate monger. You play innocent while you entire question is just an accusation and persecution of an entire culture.
You obviously have not noticed the harm your religion does- and it's a lot. Atheist have to be loud and in my experience its Christian's who cast the first stone - just like this question. You want to know why we say its nonsense? Because at every turn some faith is trying to shove some religious crap in our face and assert its the truth with no evidence. If this is your experience- refrain from shoving your religion in the faces of atheist and you will not receive the same rudeness you almost certainly had put forth first. I'm a peace maker with people and it seems to me your the only one judging by religious or no religious affiliation.
and if I'm so much more "oversensitive" than you, then why did you and so many others answer this question so sensitively?
I answer sensitively because you attacked an entire race with your broad sweeping hate brush.
There is no need to get upset or offended. We all are entitled to our own opinion and we have to each respect that - however, Almighty God will in the end prove his existence. God does not force himself on anyone. I understand your concern - but you also have to consider the source - if a person does not believe in God and is adamant about it - and truly do not want to research any information in respect to God existence - let them be - in time we will all realize who is in charge. (Psalms 83:18)
While it is true that some atheists and agnostics can be loud and offensive the same can be said of some who profess to be Christian. I find comfort in the scripture at Ephesians 4:4-6. I believe that in the near future there will be only one way of worship and belief that God accepts and allows on his Earth.
