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Can a person just walk into a knife and get stabbed?

my son who is severely depressed just happens to have these weird "accidents" . His alcohol and drug addiction is out of control and I'm out of hope . I know he needs help but where do I find it?

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dustee

Call the show "Intervention".

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I've had 15 years of this crap . I just want to end it all
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BoxingTally

If they happen too much, they are not accidents. I would call the hospital and see if they have a program there.

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Thanks I think I'm done with him
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Victoria698

I highly doubt there's just going to be a knife glued to a wall, but if he walked into it he would get injured.

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The story has too many holes in it , if you'll pardon the pun.
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Some of this depends on how old your son is. If he's under age 18, you can have him involuntarily committed for psychiatric evaluation at a hospital. If he's 18 or older, you can still maybe get him committed for at least a short while if he's a danger to himself, which it sounds like he is.
But until he's ready to make some changes and deal with his addictions, it almost doesn't matter what you do, I'm sorry to say. He has to be the one to give up the alcohol and drugs; if he's not, the best help and all the mother's love in the world won't help him.

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Thank you. He is 32. He's had jail time and numerous opportunities for short term help. Is it bad of me to wish he'd just do it and get it over with?
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Sorry I have no one else to vent to.
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Aikenback and Kimkay, I hope you don't mind my comment. Aikenback, maybe you've just lost hope for the moment. Though you say you wish it would just happen, I can tell you're concerned. Why would you even ask this question if you weren't.
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@aikenback52, I hear your anguish about your son's circumstances. It's not bad of you to wish anything -- feelings just are, they aren't good or bad in themselves. If you were to act on those feelings in such a way to encourage him to do himself in, that would be bad, but I don't think you're talking about that!
@NAFTA's suggestion about Al-Anon is a really good one. They'd be able to provide some support to you in this struggle, no matter what happens with your son. No one understands what you're going through like someone who's been through it.
@MadMarcus15 - I have a hard time imagining someone minding your comment. You're wise beyond your years and have a lot to offer. Hope 2013 has good stuff in store for you. :-)
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Thank you, Kimkay. :) Back at you.
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Both of you have been a great help to me . Thanks! This situation is just getting old and I'm tired of it.
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I'll look into al- anon.
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Hope it's taken care of soon, Aikenback.
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Thank you
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Drugs and alcohol are one thing...but I just don't understand the logic with kids these days with this "self-harm" B.S. ......I mean, I guess that when you think about it, drinking and drugging IS also self-harm it's just internalized and hidden.....whereas the cutting and such is external so as to making it easier to be "found out" which MUST be a cry for help but they aren't even sure that they can be helped......as Kimkay said, depending on age there is a different list of things you can do.....another good thing to look into is ALANON because you aren't alone in this, believe me.....

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You will never fully understand cutting unless you consider doing it or actually do it.
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Thank you for your help. I just don't think it will ever end for him. I just wonder how other people handle this.
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Shark, I used to bang my head off the wall......cutting is just as useless as that......all this monkey see monkey hear monkey do crap is just ridiculous.....cutting is nothing more than the newest fad amongst blind sheep kids....
Aiken, that's what ALANON is ALL about......you are not the first nor the last person this will happen to....look into it
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NAFTA, good suggestion about Al-Anon. I hope aikenback looks into it. As to the cutting, I suspect it's been around way longer than we think it has, but just hasn't been talked about. And some cutters do manage to keep it hidden for quite a long while, just like anorexics can keep their problems hidden. The mind is the least understood part of us and both those problems, just like addictions, are in the mind. (Yes, many addictions also have physiological aspects, but they all start in the mind.)
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Yeah. and just like any addiction, there is really no logic behind it...the addict just believes that it is just acceptable and in some twisted way beneficial to them.....the addicts mind is forever in justify mode 8(
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Logic is completely absent when it comes to addiction. Try to talk to someone about how awful tobacco use is -- all the money spent on cigarettes, the smell, what it does to the body, the diseases it can cause, etc. It's like talking to a brick wall.
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HA!! Brick Wall???? More like friggin TITANIUM!!!! 8) I sat and figured out a LOW-BALL rough estimate on how much money I've spent on drugs alcohol and cigarettes over my 17 years of PURE MORONICY......I didn't believe it at first because it seems impossible......$60,000.......it is just mind-boggling to even fathom spending that much on slowly k-illing myself and destroying my body all while ignoring anything that could have been beneficial.....
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My brother use to cut.... It had nothing to do with trying to get attention or "monkey see". My mom talked to me about it, because I always thought he was just being dramatic... My mom told me that his heart aches and he gets a release from cutting. Physical pain is easier than emotional pain, people get a high from it, it releases something that crying doesn't. He no longer cuts anymore, the bishop told him that our bodies are temples, and we should respect them, so he stopped. He has a job now, which helps, takes meds, and occasionally talks to a shrink. Depression and cutting are not a "monkey see monkey do" thing. Depression is caused by a chemical embalance of a chemical called serotonin. It requires attention and coping skills. With all do respect, that's an ignorant and quite un feeling thing to say.
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No one comes to the conclusion to cut on their own accord....they had to have heard it from SOMEWHERE......then they take that idea they hear about and run with it......I would like to hear from a cutter that they NEVER heard of someone else doing it first before they did it....so in that aspect it's monkey see.....we are all copying something we have seen or heard about, there is really no such thing as originality any longer.....
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I think that's really moot. It's not like "oh I heard about this and this sounds like a fun/cool idea so I'll do it as well." Would it honestly matter if it was something they came up on their own? It's it honestly relevant? Fact of the matter is, it's an unhealthy way to release emotional anguish and that person needs medical help/attention. It's not a "trendy" thing. It's typical in a person that has depression, to try and use mechanisms of escape, cutting is not the only way people self-harm, just the most common. C'mon now, it's like saying Su.icide is a trend. Everyone has heard of it... And I think we can't fully understand what someone feels, unless we've experienced it.
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It's a SUPPOSED coping mechanism that someone else came up with and someone else decides to try......how is that NOT monkey see??? Obviously it's unhealthy, just like drugs and alcohol, yet people think it's OK because someone else is doing it so it justifies their doing it as well.....
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My brother stopped right after the bishop told him it wasn't ok, and got help. I'm sure he still got urges.
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"Coping"is a way to deal with something SUCCESSFULLY, which cutting doesn't do. Coping would be getting excersise, or getting a job... Something that turns your attention of yourself or your problem, and doesn't do further damage. It's not coping, it's an escape, and unhealthy one. And just because something is common, doesn't necessarily make it coping.
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I know that.....and you know that....BUT in the mind of the cutter or the alcoholic or the drug addict they are coping with their problems BY using or drinking or cutting.......you and I are on the same side of the fence with different opinions is all...and it's extra touchy for you because of the fact that you were personally affected by it.....as was I in my own life, only I wasn't cutting, I drank and smoked my life away.....
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I never had it. My brother, whom I love, had it. I always thought omg, so dramatic, what a drama king, till my mom talked to me about it. I almost cried about it when she told me-it's just so sad. I have suffered anxiety before however, and unless someone has experienced THAT for example, I think they have no place to make judgements. Nothing substitutes experience, all we can do is be empathetic and offer help.
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Sorry btw, tired, medicated, and just got in an argument with someone, so I'm kinda cranky. But my brother does have depression. Doesn't cut anymore though.
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Sorry Shaylen ,about your brother. I'm glad he's doing better. And NAFTA 17 years ? How did you stop?
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Psh......Well, I got pulled over for a DWI, breathalyzed at .23, got told to go to counseling, and the rest is history......I sat and seriously thought about how I had been living my life and realized that I was a worthless drunk idiot......so I decided to give Sobriety a chance and have NEVER felt better.....I also quit smoking recently which never even seemed like a possibility......I literally hit MY rock bottom....some people's rock bottom is death unfortunately 8(
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Oh wow nafta... Congrats, good for you :)
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Sorry you had to go through that as well.
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I guess my brother's situation doesn't compare, no drinking or drugs....
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NAFTA, good for you that you got smart before you got dead. A breathalyzer of .23 is pretty serious. Glad you took it seriously; not everyone does.
Shaylen, everybody's situation is different. Someone else going through what your brother did might deal with it in a completely different way - maybe good, maybe not. Some people are very resilient, others less so. I'm just trying to say that's it's difficult to compare one person's problems and how they react to someone else's problems and how that person reacts. In any case, it's good that your brother got help, from a variety of sources, and no longer cuts. It'll probably always be something he struggles with - what caused him to cut, I mean. But it sounds like he has some much better coping mechanisms in place now.
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Serious? I don't know details yet
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Depends on his age you should talk to a Counselor or psychologist to get ideas on what you could do to help or options available.

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He's 32. Old enough to know better . He lies too.
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Probably too old to get help without costing an arm and a leg
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Kimkay is right I think. You need to take him to someone who will not only help him, but convince him that he needs help and make him willing to help himself. If he's going to be helped, he first needs the will to help himself.
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I hope this helps, and good luck to you and your son, Aikenback.

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Thanks much. I feel better having some one to spill my guts to.
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I know what you mean. My pleasure!
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Some people have to hit rock bottom before they look for help

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I would have thought he'd hit rock bottom many times. I guess he hasn't been homeless yet
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Yea, its sharp.

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