(1) Whatever begins to exist must have a cause for its existence. (2) The universe began to exist. (3) Therefore, the universe must have a cause for its existence. (4) The attributes of the cause of the universe (being timeless, existing outside of space, and so on) are the attributes of God. (5) Therefore, the cause of the universe must be God (Genesis 1:1).
I'm an atheist and don't understand with all the science breakthroughs happening how people can still believe in god. I do respect religious people though because there's no proof he does or doesn't exist besides people saying oh he must've created it because I can love and crap.
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You know, people talk about faith as if it's this weird wishy-washy dream of pie-in-the-sky or something. I have faith. But I have faith because I've FELT God touch me and talk to me and comfort me. I've EXPERIENCED Him, therefore, I have faith that He'll always be with me, even though right now I can't see Him. Faith is REAL. And YES, I have MANY questions, but I have faith that God loves me and that He's got my back and will help me get through ANY situation. THAT'S what MY faith is based on... And that is no wishy-washy dream! Not by a long shot. And I know I'm not alone in this...
I wish ALL of you could experience what I have. But you have to ASK Him. Not demand He prove Himself... Or expect Him to JUMP when you say so...
The best proof that God exists was an article by Francis Pharcellus Church printed in the NY Times in 1897.
He was writing about Santa Claus but if you delete those references and substitute "God" nobody will notice. The terms are interchangeable.
"Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. He exists as certainly as love and generosity and devotion exist, and you know that they abound and give to your life its highest beauty and joy. Alas! how dreary would be the world if there were no Santa Claus. It would be as dreary as if there were no Virginias. There would be no childlike faith then, no poetry, no romance to make tolerable this existence. We should have no enjoyment, except in sense and sight. The eternal light with which childhood fills the world would be extinguished.
"Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies ...."
At some point we can not keep taking away evidence and keep asking for more. As for the theories (I actually think they are more so philosophical arguments versus theories, but that is besides the point), the last time a believer acknowledged science as a theory, a non-believer made a reference to gravity and recommended the believer to test it, I am not telling you to do that by any means. But I feel to continue to take away evidence and then say there is no evidence (you didn't say it, but I felt it was an innuendo) is the same as me taking away the fact items fall when let go, and still asking someone to prove the law of gravity. Just my point of view and hope you have a wonderful New Years. God bless.
You will always have non-believers. You all know them. Nowhere in the Bible does it say you have to prove anything to them. It says to Preach The Gospel to all creation. If they receive it then Praise The Lord. If not then shake the dust off your feet and move on. Here's a message from the Lord to all His people. Ignore the foolish and leave them alone for the day will come when they wish they would of listened but it will be to late. God shows Himself real to those who seek Him. For those who wish to make a mockery out of us their days coming. God Bless Everyone. And I pray all wake up before it's to late. And Jesus said I wish that none perish but come to everlasting life.
All evidence of god such as what Aquinas wrote are all hypothetical and only use circular logic as evidence (i.e. "we exist so he has to exist"). Is it possible that god exists? Yes, however is it probable that god exists? No. Of course again this depends on your way of thinking. The idea, as another poster on a different thread put it, of aliens having come to earth is just as possible as the idea of god and there is just as much evidence if not maybe even more.