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Why are rappers, like Eminem, who promote violence against women being nominated and handed Grammy awards?

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grammy awards are a joke to begin with,the same people that sell the records give the awards,if they have bad talent,they give them an award to boost their sales

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My nephew is a recording engineer and tho he has won Grammys, he won't attend the shows..It's just a job for him..He won't take on druggies etc..
All about money..and the government has a cut..sad huh?
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Ya, I don't know that much about that award system, but I was just reading about him in a book. I find it disturbing someone who sings about killing his wife and son can get an award for it.
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and they wonder why kids go off the deep end gezzzzzzzzzzzz
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som rapper said WE OWN YOUR KIDS because kids love chanting,and cursing,the base of rap
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For years I have maintained movies and music [and now video games etc] have been the decline of respect and pride in society..
Elected officials received millions of dollars from these people..The government is as much to blame as the Co. but this has gone on sice the the industries fist were born,,Greed! how sad.sad.and sinful.. No real concernes for family..,I am soo sick of the Freedom card and OUR RIGHTS.....It has been so abused!
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i agree
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Ahhhh.. ok guess I better go out and SHOVEL ughhhhhhh not going to get away with it this time..tooooo cold to melt lol. Enjoy ur day..Nice chatting.even tho my blood boils on this issue lol.. ehhhh
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i will have to deal with that tomorrow
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He's extremely talented, that would be why.

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hello. I found this question to be very sexist. Apparently women can do whatever they want to men but a man can't hit a woman. Talk about women wanting equality, huh? Just saying.
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women are the fairer sex,thats why we dont hit them!
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Well physical abuse against women is a much larger issue than physical abuse against men. Women are naturally the weaker gender, and are not as able to defend themselves.
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thats right ninja
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Passage, is being beat up by women a big issue for you? I think economic and social equality are more important. You sound like a kid though.
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A lot of women are subject to abuse from their husbands and boyfriends, who they still "love." Those abusive men will threaten their partners and usually control all the finances as well. And if any guy attacked me right now, I would not be able to defend myself.
No it isn't Gubler lol.
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I think the issue is that if I got beat up by a huge amazon, I would not be able to defend myself according to many people.
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Run!!! They are coming!!
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Oh.... cool!
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Passage, men hit women to cause fear and intimidation... Tell me would you really be fearful if miss jacqueline above hit you, or just pissed off?
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Yes, I would.
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Because I'm a ninja right? No, but seriously I only weigh 95 lbs and I wouldn't hit you anyway.
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I know. Just saying, though. It's not about how big or strong you are; it's about your technique. if you hit me at a low point and then kept knocking my face in then there's no way I could do anything back. and I'm still looking btw.
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I know. Anyway... it's a bigger issue for women
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Sad huh? and that is the problem with big business and greed..,,and why we have no role models..Sorry to be so glum but common sense seems to have eluded humanity..Happy 2013:)

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Yes, agreed. We need better role models everywhere. People turn a blind eye to lyrics like him killing his wife and son, and call it "musical expression" how sad.
Happy new year to you! Lets hope we can find a few good people out there promoting awareness against these things.
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Thanks for all your input on this question. Have fun in the snow :-)
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because its music and people *like myself* like it.
there are many other bad things people approve of that you should be more concerned with.

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I think we should all be concerned about a society that allows those who promote violence against women to be handed trophies.
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i dont know, its music, i personally like it, it does no harm to no one. i listen to rap daily, im a girl, i think its nice. yet not the rappers nor myself are acting that out
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@jacq.....agrees....or promotes violence in any way..
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so promote violence?
so in other words, isnt someone saying i support our troops doing same thing? as innocent people die daily in pointless wars...yet we are focused on music.
music vs innocent people dieing.
sorry but, i support the music :/

and you say the music is for the greed.
the war is for the propaganda.

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you have a normal brain..it is the unstable that need to be watched..and we can't do that..it is easier to just think about the majority to help take care of society..we don't really need violence to lead a happy life, do we?..know what i mean? Sad, your generation really never knew what good stuff was out there..There were no horrible crimes committted against innoncent children etc..Hard to explain..
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i personally like my generation.
just a few of us messed it up.
i like my rap, and not all of it is bad, some is, some is not. i like both. i do not find it offended. and i never saw someone kill someone or rape someone and blame it on rap :/
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Forbidden, I don't think Eminem has the greatest record. But I understand what your saying.
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And out of curiosity what "other" things should I be considering :-)
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Yes Forbidden..you do not know what the older generation had. There is good and not so good in every generation, but I don't know why, but the kids today never admit they are wrong..Even in my family..Now I know we all can't be wrong, but we all can't be right either.It is ok to admit when something is wrong..Just seems today, there is everything out there for kids and many take
life for granted..
Wars are bad, music can be bad, movies can be bad etc etc etc..it is knowing the difference and society is having a hard time figuring out which is which. I have to leave so have a good day..Thanks for commenting.:)
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see ya Jacqueline:) take care
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i admit when i am wrong all the time, i really do. i just feel like the music is no big deal. because we have actual serious problems.

and other issues such as drugs, gangs, like i said war, economy problems, civil rights which not every one has yet.

i think we should focus on things that are actually hurting people, like for instance, do women have 100% rights? if i want to marry another woman, can i, everywhere?

also how many cops are not doing job right? that is actually hurting people. and song saying im ganna pop that is not hurting anyone.
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ive often wondered the same,they also promote violence and murder,selling drugs,shooting people,rappers do

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I never listen to rap, and that is why. I was reading about him and found it appalling that some of his lyrics (and I'm sure there are plenty more) talked about beating and killing his wife and son. And people say this music doesn't affect their attitude?
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very true i cant understand it either

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well, I believe that others just really like his music..

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I think you're right.
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thank u
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Awards aren't about the message. It's a popularity thing, which proves the sham these awards are.

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Well it doesn't seem like a popular message to promote...
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I agree .. There a many songs in the music industry that are 'hits' .. because people buy the music not realizing what the songs are even actually about or are complacent about the content. Songs that not only talk about, but promote violence .. from assault, to battery, to murder, to bullying to school shootings.

It's sad .. really sad to hear how the general public continues to blindly support this crap.

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I know. I don't understand.
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Because money is more important to the entertainment industry than being socially responsible....unless there is a disaster for them to play a concert at...why they don't just donate a million dollars each, I don't know.

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That makes sense.
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Money Money Money Money and Greed...

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Yes, that's what it seems. Unfortunate but true. Just another factor contributing to violence in our world.
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I TOTALLY dislike rap music but would never go so far as to blame violence in our society on that genre of music. The same way I would never blame violent video games for any actions actually carried out. When you think about it....does that format of "music" condone itself to love, beauty and peace?

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I think it contributes.
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And I wouldn't disagree with your point of view either. If nothing else, it leads to a mindset that violent behavior is more common than it really is and this kind of behavior is somehow acceptable.
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Because people love the " bad boy " buy his stuff and companies promote everything you just said.look at the NFL , rapist , murderers , DWI's on
and on and on and on

as far as the comment about music shaping society, someone needs to do there homework. music , songs etc have always " shaped and impacted our society bigtime. go back and start with the " slave era " and move forward and see if it changes your mind a little.

mind control , subliminal messages . I am not meaning play the record back words or anything like that. just type those words in a search engine and read about how our government , companies etc spend and have spent Billions on that issue.

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So true. And very good points about music.
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Thank you girl and nice photo great small
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As opposed to the "positive" way Katie Perry and Missy Elliot (just 2 examples) promote girls prostituting themselves and their human dignity "Get that money girls"... Or is the NEO-Femenist position that women are too stupid & powerless to be anything but a booty-call, gold-digger or sex object ok to teach our girls?

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Don't know about your NEO feminist comment, but women acting like objects for a guys pleasure is the same idea.... It promotes the mentality men can treat them badly.
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And I hope your not sticking up for Eminem.
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I'm not, but I have 2 teen daughters, and I see the Neo-Femenism doing harm to their self image daily.


My mom is an old school Femenist from the 70's and I agree with equality and the empowered woman. NOT objectify yourself and use sex for money and control. Everyone has a choice.... But where are the positive role-models? The teenaged lingere models all over TV selling Victoria's Secret sex clothes to young girls reinforcing the concept that your worth is directly related to how bad someone wants to violate you?
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I know, I don't think this adds anything positive towards the equality of women. In this commercialized world women are exploited, and I think we need more leaders to speak out against it. As a father I'm sure you are very protective and would never want to see your daughters in an abusive relationship.... yet the very world we live in seems to be supporting the demeaning of women. During the 70's laws actually started to be enforced against men who abused their wives, before that many turned a blind eye. This is something I've been learning more about myself, and I hope I can make a contribution in some way. Thanks for your answer.
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Well it kind of depends on how you look at it. I personally think grammy's should just be based on whoever makes good music, regardless of what they support or whatever. I guess the singers are in the public light, but i'm not sure they have an obligation to act as a rolemodel...so if he makes music that sells records then he should get the awards...I think many people are more concerned with how the music sounds then the actual lyrics

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Not sure if they have an obligation to be role-models? But if so many people look up to him and idolize his music, doesn't it make sense someone with a warped mentality could use his music to justify abusing a woman? (something to think about) I realize this is a bigger problem than just one mans lyrics, but I don't think he helps men to have respect for women, quite the opposite. And the fact his record sales are so numerous is evident that people don't care? I don't know... That's why I asked the question. I just read a book and it talked about how he has a popular song about him beating and killing his wife and son and setting it up like she was the crazy one. This was disturbing to me.
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I see what you're saying but I don't see how you can get these famous people to change their ways. Many people who seek fame probably aren't going to be role models...but ok I guess maybe the grammys should then pay attention to the lives of the singers outside of their job
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I'm glad you kinda sorta agree... lol
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The Grammy award is based off of record sales not the lyrics.

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Ok, so he is popular regardless of his lyrics. Thanks. Do you think music like this promotes violence against women?
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I do. It's disgusting!
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Hi Flight, where ya been? Happy New Year!
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@ladywood- I've been busy with the holidays and finishing up several projects.
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