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Why did Simon Peter think Jesus was only the Son of God ? Not God ? Why did Jesus bless him for knowing that?

Matthew 16:15-18 niv
15 ?But what about you?? he asked. ?Who do you say I am??

16 Simon Peter answered, ?You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.?

17 Jesus replied, ?Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

Why was Jesus not upset Peter got it wrong that Jesus was God in the flesh ?

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You have taken a plain statement and forced it into a Jehovah's Witness box. In other words, you are asserting the statement to be 180 degrees from its original meaning.
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If Jesus was not saying he was the Son of God, therefore making himself equal with God, why did the Jews charge him with Blasphemy?
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The Jehovah's Witnesses have a problem. Jesus said, "I will build my church, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it." This means the church will not fail to present the truth of Christ, and will succeed. But Jehovah's Witness says the church lapsed into error until the JWs came around. Either they are right, or Jesus is right.
I put my money on Jesus.

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It'll be funny if both of them are wrong.
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Place your bets!
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Well...no one knows, so I could honestly care less about the two.
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So, why are you even interested in the question??
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I just find this amusing.
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I am always amused in how interested atheists are in religion. You can't keep them from commenting on something they steadfastly maintain they have no interest in. Curiously, when I challenge that, I get called names.
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I never called you a name.
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Sure I'm an atheist, but that doesn't make me rude.
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I've seen it on other posts. atheists can't stay away, its like a moth to a flame. they sneer because they can't believe
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You can't force us to believe anything
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its not possible for you to believe. impossible. not ever. its why you are fascinated by religion: forbidden fruit
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You can't believe in something you can't prove exists.
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cjuepa
No disrespect Shinypate1 as you are always a scholar and a gentleman. I am somewhat surprised that you are not aware of these historical comments which by the way were not from JW's : The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.
In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.
According to the Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel, “The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher’s [Plato, fourth century B.C.E.] conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religio
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ancient [pagan] religions.”—(Paris, 1865-1870), edited by M. Lachâtre, Vol. 2, p. 1467.
John L. McKenzie, S.J., in his Dictionary of the Bible, says: “The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are G[ree]k philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—(New York, 1965), p. 899.
These are just quotes from research done by JW's.
I usually respect all your comments, as you are usually very well informed and continue to both respect and appreciate your point of view. Kind regards
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Indeed you will find many comments raising questions why the church went in the trinitarian direction. Yet it did. As I pointed out, you will need to decide if Jesus protected the church or not.

The JWs are not the only group to deny the trinity; Mormons also are non-trinitarian, Druize, Coptic and Unitarian Universalists.
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The early church called a council over this (the Arian controversy). Bishop Arius of Alexandria taught that The Son was begotten, therefore there was a time when he was not, making him a created being. It was a novel concept at that that time, so was not confronted immediately and this allowed it to grow to a dangerous level. When finally confronted, it required a church council to oppose it. Athenasius was the leader of the conservative position, and his confession was penned to specifically oppose the error.
A synopsis of the controversy can be found here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arian_controversy

Regards!
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Arius, an Alexandrian priest, argued that Christ is inferior to the Father. So he refused to use the term homoousios (being of one substance) in describing Christ’s relationship to God. The Council of Nicaea rejected his view in 325 C.E., ruling that Jesus is indeed ‘of the same substance as the Father.’ Interestingly some time later on in 451 C.E. the Council of Chalcedon stated that Christ is God incarnate. The Babylonian-Egyptian-Grecian concept of a triune God had now crowded out Christ’s teaching that he and his Father are two separate individuals, in no way equal.—Mark 13:32; John 14:28.
I sometimes wonder how far one goes back in research and whether or not the sources are in fact reliable. But like you said one would have to decide whether Jesus protected the church or not an interesting point. Regards.
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Just so you know I do believe the sources I have been given and cannot counter.
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I do not debate JW doctrine. I merely point it out as being non-trinitarian and apart from historic Christianity. That does not mean there is not an answer to your objections. It means I don't try, because when God clouds a mind, it is a very rainy day in Portland. Even I know enough not to fight the rain.
In my days, I served on a few juries. The lawyers would peremptorily challenge any obviously biased jurors based on cause. If a juror will not entertain evidence, they don't belong on a jury.
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no problem shinypate1 I always respect someone who knows how to explain things like yourself.
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AndrewBalkaran

Damn Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on my door. I should release my Akita.

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whats akita
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A type of Dog. It's vicious.
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JamesKaeberle

Why do you over and over try to disprove that Jesus isn't God? And why do you use a chopped up and distorted version of the Bible the NIV?

http://www.salvationbygracealone.com/JesusChristisGod.html
http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/was_jesus_god.html
http://www.destinymusic.net/faith/jesusisgod.html

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It's quite simple, Jesus himself proves it. Note what he says while in heaven as a mighty spirit at Revelation 1:1

(Revelation 1:1) A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John,

Question: If Jesus were God or part of the God Head, wouldn't he also have the same knowledge as the Father? But here he clearly states that he had something revealed to him that he didn't know before. This shows that Jesus and his Father are indeed, two separate persons in while in heaven.
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Visit the websites ans see how many scripture contradict what your saying?
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I'm well acquainted with the verses they use. But these texts really harmonize with what Jesus says about himself at Revelation 1:1? For example, Matthew 1:23 which uses the term Emmanuel simply meant that by sending his son to the earth God had turned his attention to mankind. It was also said by the Jews that God was with them when they carried the Ark Of the Covenant into battle. But it did not mean that God was literally on the earth at the time. Also, read John 1:18 which says that no man has seen God at any time. If Jesus was God in the flesh, that statement could not be true. Remember, the Bible never contradicts itself.
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Jesus was 100% man and 100% god while He was here on the earth. So yes the scripture is true. Here's what you don't understand. God loved his creation so much even when man sinned against Him that He was willing to die for mankind. ( Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin )but God can't die because He is spirit therefore He sent His Son Jesus to become flesh so that we can be reconciled back to God. You try to reason out of you human mind and can not accept the fact that God can do anything.
2 Corinthians 4:1-6

1Therefore, since we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we do not lose heart.2 But we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness nor handling the word of God deceitfully, but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man?s conscience in the sight of God.3 But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,4 whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.5 For we do not preach ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord, and ourselves your bondservants for Jesus? sake.6 For it is the God who commanded light to shine out of darkness, who has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
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Well, I guess your argument is with Jesus himself since he states who and what he was, God's Son. The religious leaders of his day also did not grasp who he said he was and he had to correct them as usual in verse 36.

(John 10:31-36) . . .Once more the Jews lifted up stones to stone him. 32 Jesus replied to them: “I displayed to YOU many fine works from the Father. For which of those works are YOU stoning me?” 33 The Jews answered him: “We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for blasphemy, even because you, although being a man, make yourself a god.” 34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “YOU are gods”’? 35 If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came, and yet the Scripture cannot be nullified, 36 do YOU say to me whom the Father sanctified and dispatched into the world, ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, I am God’s Son?
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lol I love when people like you twist and distort the scriptures from the actual meaning of what is going on here. You sais the magic words when you said the religious Chridtianity isn't a religion it's a relationship with the one and only God of this universe Jesus was God in the flesh.

John 10:31-36

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, ?Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me??

33 The Jews answered Him, saying, ?For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.?

34 Jesus answered them, ?Is it not written in your law, ?I said, ?You are gods??? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ?You are blaspheming,? because I said, ?I am the Son of God?
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John 8:48-59

New King James Version (NKJV)
Before Abraham Was, I AM

48 Then the Jews answered and said to Him, ?Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon??

49 Jesus answered, ?I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me. 50 And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges. 51 Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death.?

52 Then the Jews said to Him, ?Now we know that You have a demon! Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and You say, ?If anyone keeps My word he shall never taste death.? 53 Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Who do You make Yourself out to be??

54 Jesus answered, ?If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God. 55 Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ?I do not know Him,? I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word. 56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.?

57 Then the Jews said to Him, ?You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham??

58 Jesus said to them, ?Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.?

59 Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
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The Son is in the Father & the Father in the Son.
Whomever truly knows them understands the meaning.
Elohim has plurality in its meaning. The Apochropha explains Wisdom as being from the beginning aswell. Likened unto the Holy Spirit. But how will you understand if your mind is made up already. I've told you before, we worship God alone, but in worshipping his FULLNESS, we are clearly worshippers of his Holy Saviour.

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He first owns Him the promised Messiah]Mt 1:16); then he rises higher, echoing the voice from heaven-This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased"; and in the important addition-"Son of the Living God-he recognizes the essential and eternal life of God as in this His Son-though doubtless without that distinct perception afterwards vouchsafed.Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

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Jesus is the Son of aGod/God

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