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Is Humanity totally depraved?

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As long as we have religion to control us, then yes, we will continue to be depraved.

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dude (dudette), how is religion controlling us? That doesn't make any sense.
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Religion doesn't control me. I willingly follow Jesus Christ.
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No you don't. You do it because you were raised to. You don't willingly do it. You were taught to believe that way.
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I wasn't raised to believe in him, and I believe in him. I believe in him because he has shown his mercy and his love for me countless times that it left me without doubt that he is real.
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Oh please! As if anybody who wasn't raised to believe in that fairy tale actually believes in it. The only ones who do either lack confidence or were raised to believe. And he hasn't shown you anything. That's your interpretation of YOU getting out of bad situations.
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passageone, there is no point on arguing about my beliefs with you. My goal is not to change you for you have free will to believe in whatever you want to believe. My goal is to let you respect the free will of others to believe in God if so they choose. I believe in God, not because I interprete it that way, but because I have been in horrible situations, that I care not discuss and he has been there. PassageOne, do you believe that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction? So then, if there is evil on earth and demons couldn't there be a God as well?
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Um... You haven't really done anything except assume fairies exist. There's no evidence that demons are on this earth. In fact, what we know as evil is only immorality. But it's determined by previous generations of men. Not saying there is no evil. But us humans have built ourselves to the point where what we know as evil can only be carried as evil. There are no actual demons.
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Um... I said religion as the answer. I didn't say which one. Y'all were the ones doing the disrespecting. I mean Muslims believe don't do who don't believe should di3. There are some religions where there's an entire day to them cutting themselves open. In fact most religions are horrible. I never said which one, though. Think before you assume.
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I'll remember that PassageOne. Those are wise words.
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Thanks. And don't assume I'm normally like this, either. I'm just in a mood today.
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There is no point in arguing with you. You said it yourself, you are in a mood today. Whatever I or anyone says in here is going to go through your eyes and out. News flash my friend, this is not a site for therapy, if you are in a mood or upset you should go out and take a walk or do something relaxing, badging on religion or on any believers, is not going to make you feel better, is going to make you feel worse. That's all I got to say to you. Now, I am not going to answer your comments for today anymore as it will be a waste of my time.
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How can someone else delete your comment. By reporting it? What a way to protect your pride.
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what are you talking about? I didn't delete your comment. Wait, I am confused. Someone deleted MY comment or YOUR comment?
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mankilla444

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What is the cause of what we see?
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No. In fact, compared to humanity's treatment of humanity in centuries past, we are slowly improving. It often seems worse, because we have reached a point where we notice injustices that in times past would have just been shrugged off. It's a slow process, and whatever god, if any, that we may believe in is probably expecting us as a species to learn to take care of ourselves, as any well-raised child does.
So let's not give up on ourselves; we are a stubborn and stiff-necked species, but we do learn.

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nice answer. :)
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Deep Dark, with complete respect, how do you conclude that humanity is improving? Some would argue there was more innocent deaths in the 20th century than in all previous centuries. I'm not sure of what injustices are not still shrugged off. Our acknowledgement makes it even worse. What is the evidence that you are finding?
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Well, you are obviously in a bad mood at least for today. I hope it improves. If you were already convinced that humanity is "totally depraved," why ask the question.
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Bad mood? I'm in a great mood. I'm off the entire eekend. I never get that. I'm asking you to show me why you think the way you do. I can explain to you what I believe even though we disagree. I'm sure you can do the same right?
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Checking old answers, I find that we have danced with pretty much this same question before. You believe that humanity is depraved and pretty much doomed. I think we're stubborn, but learning slowly. Neither of us is going to change our view on this, and neither of us is required to.
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I understand that and I agree. What I like about conversations like this, is coming to understand people. I can come to all sorts of conclusions about why you think the way you do, and I'm sure I'd be wrong. Most people do this and assume they are right. I actually enjoy listening to people and understanding them and not coming up with my own conclusions. This is why I ask the questions I do, even if I already know the answer. I do respect you, and you must know that. I will admit though, through these types of conversations, It helps me with my approach in telling the world of the Good News. That is also my intentions.
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We're on equal footing then; I find that listening to other differing opinions helps me keep tabs on mine. We'll probably run into each other again.
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I hope so.
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ok runumbered. This is what I was hoping to hear. Thank you. Sorry I went off on you on the my previous comments. :) Have a good day.
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Just almost .... Once you remove God from everything ... You only have satan left.
War.. Hatred... Killing... Sex with everyone BUT your spouse .. Drugs ..
Alcohol abuse ..
Only God can get back on track.

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That will be a glorious day when God's creation is made right again!
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All of those can be caused by religion. Religion spreads hatred, like the Spanish Inquisition and the crusades. People all over the world are good and moral without god, often better.
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There is a common misconception regarding total depravity. Total depravity does not mean that man is as wicked or sinful as he could be, nor does it mean that man is without a conscience or any sense of right or wrong. Neither does it mean that man does not or cannot do things that seem to be good when viewed from a human perspective or measured against a human standard. It does not even mean that man
cannot do things that seem to conform outwardly to the law of God. What the Bible does teach and what total depravity does recognize is that even the "good" things man does are tainted by sin because they are not done for the glory of God and out of faith in Him (Romans 14:23; Hebrews 11:6). http://www.gotquestions.org/total-depravity.html

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That is a great response. I am really glad you took the time to write that. I believe total depravity points to our need for a Saviour.
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Thank, so do I.
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Not totally. At least not yet.
But we're working on it.

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It sure seems that way!
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I would say morally bankrupt and wallowing in sin.

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Yes! At least until you are recreated in Christ. God said there is no good thing in the flesh.

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