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If God is real ... how did he allow those poor 26 people from Connecticut get killed ?

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Because God gave people free will. It was a man who killed those kids, not God, if you recall.

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God created him knowing he would do that. That's like an engineer building a bridge knowing it was going to collapse. Who's responsible?
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^exactly . thank you lol .
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You have an argument that is invalid. If you knew how God worked you wouldn't spout off ridiculous claims. God is not at fault for this. The man is. Do you think that He is going to reward the man for this? No. Eternal hell.
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Right. He is going to punish a man who he created already knowing what he would do(God is omniscient, remember?). So why punish a man for doing what he was created to do? Also, how is eternal punishment ever considered justice? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
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hmm... where i grew up saying someone was goin to hell would buy me a ticket as well.
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The guy might not even be punished. All he has to do is say sorry and bow down and it's all good.
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Actually, Lepp, by their creed he has to be sorry within his heart and it's all good. Seeing as he was Autistic or mentally handicapped maybe he was sorry or maybe he didn't fully understand right and wrong. Oh wait... Adam and Eve were punished because they ate from the Tree BEFORE they knew right from wrong so maybe he isn't okay. Such a contradictory religion. :/
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He also killed himself , he commited a sin and could not ask for forgiveness . I doubt he's in a good place .. but who knows .
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If God's plan for them was to live for a little while and then be frightened and shot to death then he is a sadistic SOB. Well, I sort of already knew that since he killed every living thing on Earth in the Flood.
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Yea that's what I meant when I said he has to say sorry. He has to mean it. That's still some major bs though. He wouldn't even be punished for that. Just the thought is infuriating. But if he is punished then he'll be punished forever which is also not right. No person deserves to be tortured for eternity. Sure this guy should be punished for a very long time but certainly for eternity. There is no justice in the religion. I didn't know he killed himself though. I thought I saw him being arrested on tv.
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I thought it was the GUN - the evil GUN that caused this. The media and President think so.
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Well that guy shouldn't have had a gun. Mentally handicapped and volatile people shouldn't have guns. I agree that guns aren't inherently evil though haha.
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You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves talking about God like that. Just like buddy said God gave everybody free will and is not to interfere with what he gave us. We the people create our own Hell on Earth. I'm pretty sure Hell on Earth is nothing compared to the Hell down below. I am so sick of y'all blaming God for everything that goes wrong in the world. If God didn't give us the free will to do whatever we want do you really think that all these killings and wars and other stuff would be happening. They happen cause God gave us the choice to do what we want but in the end those people will pay for their actions. So their are consequences. We make the choice. Either you do Right by God or you do Bad and suffer.
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God made this person knowing everything he would do right? So God created this person to do that as His plan. How could an omniscient god have a plan that he knows won't work. Either way His design is flawed(either his plan or his creations). When somebody designs something and it doesn't work the intended way it is NOT that thing's fault it acted in the way it was built.
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Thank you ^ Thanks so much lol u are literally the only person who unserstands my question .
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Who me? haha It is nice to have somebody agree with me for once.
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Hey, okay, God knows things are gonna happen. If it hadnt been that, it couldve been something wore. Those kids are probably in haven now. If that hadnt happened, maybe they wouldve gone away from God and ended up in hell. Besides, God s justice is not only for the humans, but for the angels as well, even the demons. That s why God didnt destroy he devil before everything happened. So, because God is fair, there are ways the devil can gain rights over the people. So there you go. Look outside the material world into the spiritual realm. Gby everyone.
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Well do you think he is real? Either he doesn't have complete control over our lives or he isn't there, there's just no need to blame him for letting people die though

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Don't blame god for that -_- that was pure evil, not the doing of god

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Im not blaming , but he let it happen knowing that people would be hurt .
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there is no need to say things like "why would god just let those 26 people die" god cant just snap his fingers and say "no you will not kill those people" he loves all humans and could not stop the event, god does not have control over human lives, he can guide us in the right direction, but can not physically intervein in a situation like this.
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How can you say your not blaming God but then you say he let it happen. He is not the one letting all these things happen in the world we are because he gave us our own free will. We created our own Hell on Earth and it will only get worse as the years pass us by. Theres no such thing as a perfect place here on earth. If everybody was perfect what would be the point of being here. Hmm? Hmm? Hmm?
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@JP822: If God can't control our human lives, then wouldn't that mean that he is not omnipotent (An all-powerful being)? So either you are wrong, or the bible is. You choose.

@Dow: Simple. She is not blaming God but more like questioning his existence.
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Really? i was answering a simple question, god had no control over the evil the man who did this chose to act on, if your a christian, and believe in god, the bible is not wrong, so you wanna go ahead and say im wrong? go right ahead bro, ive been in too many religious debates on this site lately to even give a s*it right now -_-
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"god had no control over the evil the man who did this chose to act on"

This only proves my point even further; He is not omnipotent. Which proves the bible false.

"ive been in too many religious debates on this site lately to even give a s*it right now -_-"

I hope this is not you trying to avoid me. I could understand why but still.
Also, I'm atheist.
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im not trying to avoid you, or anyone else dude, im just sick of having to justify myself everytime i answer a question on the subject of religion..
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It's okay. I didn't really need you to justify anything. I already know that The bible AND you are wrong... you can leave now.
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really? you gonna act like that? way to be an ignorant a** hole, starting back up a comment thread that ended almost 10 days ago, why dont you just leave? i dont have any f*ckin time for you...if your expecting me to come back and read whatever stupid reply you leave to this, keep dreamin, im not intrested in what you have to say anymore, so dont even bother typing...im not gonna see it.
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I respectively told you that you could leave and this is what I get!?... ok bye. :)
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Because he loved them so much that he wanted them to be with Him. Haha just kidding. Either he isn't real or he isn't too concerned with saving human lives.

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its a matter of belief and people die and its a tragic they had to go at such a young age. so many killings and death happen to children but if up a believe in god it was just there time to go

i on the other hand believe that it was just another case of something evil in todays society which was encouraged by it
i mean the dude had a form of autism and was shooting guns and playing violent video games all day. if anything he should be playing monopoly or something educational

btw im not a believer in "god"

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People make choices; good, bad, or indifferent, god (whichever one you like) doesn't make them for us. We are expected to make choices, take the consequences, and hopefully learn something. Even the truly horrible choices are ours to make, and the truly horrible consequences are ours to deal with. Including the innocent bystanders who get caught in the "undertow".

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Because God isn't real.

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Yes He is :)
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People say "God is love".....That was definitely NOT love.

People say "God is all powerful"....Then why wasn't that easily stopped?

People say "God is everything"....So does that mean that God is hate?

Sorry, but there is nothing that can prove God is real. All you have is your belief that something exists.
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Then how did you come onto the earth?
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I came onto the earth because my mother got pregnant and nine months later gave birth to me.

If you mean how did humanity come onto the earth that is a much longer story.(and mean longer than 6 days or 6,000 years like some people believe)
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I believe in God and Christ but I'm not religious but I wear a Holy Cross for good luck. But that was simply pure evil God was not to blame I bet that shooter is rotting in Hell.

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i belive he is real, but it's all in prospective. Plus in church it is said that god sent Noah the message to take two of every animal onto his arc. He sent the flood to kill all the horrible people of earth. After the flood it is said that he made a promise to Noah, that he will never intervene again and that we must find our own way to survive, to create law amongst ourselves. We can't blame god for what happened it's just a bump along the road of life.

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Actually, during the flood, innocent people died too.
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Believers don't know. They just make up excuses to justify their belief.

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As bad as this event was (or any like it), there are equally horrifying happenings around the world .. that happen regularly, and have been happening since day one. Poverty to the point of starvation, abuse, mutilations, severe weather patterns than cause excruciatingly horrifying destruction, death and disease ...

It's not like God himself controls us like puppets on a string...We have been given a great gift...Freedom of choice. We .. as individual can make choices .. some choose to do good .. some choose to do evil . There are other forces at work in situations like that .. even more complicated than just simply good and evil .. Mental health.

THIS was not God's doing .. THIS is far more complicated than deflecting blame to God.

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It was not at all God's fault! God didn't "let" it happen! God gave us free will and yes he knows everything we will do bad or good but consequences will come like prison, an if he isn't saved when he does eternal hell so God doesn't let evil go on in His world without consequences. Stop blaming my Father!

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Im not at all saying its his fault ! Thats wat you people arnt getting . Maybe i worded thos wrong . I meant it along the lines of "What possible reason would he have had ?" It's not its fault and ik that . But if he didnt have a reason for it to happen he couldve stopped it .
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I don't know what you are asking. I just know the shooting happened for a reason and God exist
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I never said he didnt ..
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I know
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I think you really are missing the point. You seem so lost. You need to pray for forgiveness and ask Him for his guidence
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Lol im not lost . Ik exactly what i'm talking about , this just isnt the best thing to discuss over the internet .
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It was all a set up! Look it up on YouTube
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@Godismylife: Don't believe everything on the internet. No offense but that's just foolish.
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There is tons of facts to back it
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Post the video here and I'll check it out myself.
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I don't know what it is called. My sister found it
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@GODisMYLIFE Amen, sister!!
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I'm not having a religion cuz all the crap that happens with them. It was a freak incident and probably it will help our country reform itself

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because it would take more of an explanation here then there is space , I'll give you the simplest explanation.1 John 5:19 States we know we originate with God but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one. god has a purpose for man. this is not it. he's not calling angels. read Genesis 1 26 through 31. that's mans future

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everything happens for a reason
God is not to blame! If that is what you think you need to pray about it.

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Thats not what i meant omigoshh . I guess i shouldve said "What possible reason could he have had for making that tragedy so ?" or something like that . ik he's not to blame jeez .
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I am sorry then I guess I mis understood your question.
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it was there destiny to die that day. before you were born god gave you a born date and a death date. i guess that was theres

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God makes things happen for a reason

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Am I the only one that knows its the doing of our evil government!!!!! It was a setup! Fake! A sham! Dont believe me? Well then y did they already have a site up "giving their hearts to those of sandy hook" before it even happened?! Or why did they have one of the pictures of a girl in a LOUISIANA SCHOOL UNIFORM? They have been setting up these shootings to get the non-gun owners behind them to help get rid of guns, incase you haven't noticed, they are chipping away at the rights of our people for the last few decades! This was not the will of god or a demon. It was our extremely evil government. They want control and nothing else. Heed my warning America we must do something. Soon. But the thing people don't know is, there are truly evil people in this world who's only goal in life is to cause pain to others. We must do something. Soon..... Before its too late....

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I hope this is a joke .
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Lol theres so much wrong with your statement .
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And you're 13 no offense but what do you know about anything in our government .
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1: it is NOT a joke, the government really does want to take guns away so they can have control
2: just because I'm 13 doesn't mean I can't know about things you obviously don't now does it?!
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And wait. What is wrong with it?!!
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God cant keep people from doing bad things. But I'm 100% sure that guy is in hell now.

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Therefore God is not omnipotent. Therefore the bible is wrong.
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Those kids are not as innocent as you think...

The Law Of Karma Look It Up!!!

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Lol what . What did little kids do to deserve getting shot ?
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As i said look up Karma, and the concept of rebirth (reincarnation)
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Theres no such thing lol .
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those kids did nothing wrong.. wow.. there in heaven with god right now.. reading that stuff about how they "deserved it" makes me so mad its horrible.. poor kids:(
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ik :( those people are irrelevent tho . they dont make any sense .
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@OnFire5000 Amen, sister!
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I can see what murli means. Just because they were helpless then doesn't mean they automatically go to heaven.
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In Sanatana Dharma meaning the Eternal Religon (Termed as Hinduism by Muslim ********) suffering happens on Earth not because of the original sin, but due to sins in previous lifetimes coinsiding with the english term reincarnation. Frankly it makes more sense than God still being pissed at Adam and Eve for eating his "special" fruit, or the Christian concept of Satan which is blasphemous to the omnipotence of the Lord.
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"Theres no such thing lol"
chica_alta98 just because your Bible doesn't term reincarnation does not mean there is no such thing as it. The Vedas (Hindu Holy Books) are older than the Bible, and did not steal their stories from other Holy Books your so called Old Testament is a modified version of the Epic Of Gilgamesh, therefore they are mor accountable.
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@thedissector They will because they were innocent and weren't old enough to truly understand. They are with the Lord now, RIP sweet darlings!!
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God has an exclamation to every little thing that happens. He is real and we will all get judged one day when the rapture comes. Some say it's coming soon but honestly he only knows.

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I cannot justify this answer, so I will just say what I think. I don't feel god had anything to do with it at all. I've heard all the standard quotes, god works in mysterious ways , god called them home, we shouldn't question god.the total and complete brainwashing is astonishing . All those parents and family should not be going through the hell they are going through. The victims are alive and suffering. How I feel about the children I can't find words.

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Why do we blame God for everything ??

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Because Its always easier to blame someone else for our shortcomings,wrong choices,unhappiness. What makes it worse we blame someone that can't defend himself.
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That's the reason "God" was created. People feel better when they think someone else is responsible for the world. People don't want to deal with the burden of taking cae of everything themselves or fixing things when they go wrong.
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god dident place that to happen. Saiten got to somewon and messed him up. god gave
that teacher courage to try to save her students.

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1 Peter 5:8 "Keep YOUR senses, be watchful. YOUR adversary, the Devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking to devour [someone]." God is not to blame for the evil that exists in this earth; Satan is.

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god is all power:) but theres one thing he cant do.. he cant force his will on people..he wants people to have free will..:) and since atom and eve brought sin in the world.. this stuff is gonna happen sometimes.. we live in a imperfect world.. but you can take part to change it:)

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Oh really? What happened to all that "everyone shall bow on bended knee business?" Not my choice if it does happen, not a believer and not going to hell by direct choice. I'm not responsible for implicit consequences nor respond to terrorism so unless your god a has a special place for atheist that doesn't resemble hell- hypothetically, your wrong.
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thats cool xD haha i know the truth.. and u cant argue with it..because its the truth:) and the truth is the truth.. and one day u will find out that truth.. because its the truth and the truth is god:) u cant see that because your blinded from the truth:) and one day romans 14:11 saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. and thats going to happen.. because its the truth..god loves ya hahaha:)
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To. Have absolutely no evidence to assert that any gods even exist so your statements are inconsequential. It's funny how someone can be so sure they are right when they have no good reason to think they are.
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Whats your reason for the creation of earth ? a big bang ? lol atleast we have a book filled with explanation to back us up . Your kind of people have nothing .
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god does everything for a reason !!!!! :)

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He is test you to see if you keep your faith

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26 innocent people died and you say that it's just a test? Do you have any idea how cruel that sounds? You sir are one wicked son of a b**ch!
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God: Sh*t happens.

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Hey, okay, God knows things are gonna happen. If it hadnt been that, it couldve been something wore. Those kids are probably in haven now. If that hadnt happened, maybe they wouldve gone away from God and ended up in hell. Besides, God s justice is not only for the humans, but for the angels as well, even the demons. That s why God didnt destroy he devil before everything happened. So, because God is fair, there are ways the devil can gain rights over the people. So there you go. Look outside the material world into the spiritual realm. Gby everyone.

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because god can give life and death

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I do understand your concern and feelings....in fact when that happened --I was upset for days - God is aware of everything that is going on and he hears our moaning and cries for peace. He will in his time bring an end to this wicked world. There is no safe haven here on earth. Satan is working overtime as he is aware that his time is short.

Mankind as a whole has rejected God and that is only obvious to those who seek and search out the Bible in respects to what God requires of us. (2 Timothy 3:16) However, no matter what - God has given man free-will and man can choose to do good or bad. God did not make us robot where we have to obey commands. So, with free-will there is accountability eventhough most feel they are not accountable to "anyone." However, time will tell.....

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If the Church is the hands and feet of God, it seems that God's hands and feet are tied. If the Church would unite and start taking care of the world instead of condemning it, the world might just be a much better place.

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People sin. God decided it was time for them to end. It wasn't a coincidence. Yes, it is sad, and some people may doubt about God because of it. The shooter was probably tempted by the devil, or taken over by a demon, it was his choice to shoot. And he did. The kids will most likely end up in a better place than he did.

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