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Did John The Baptist come in the Spirit Of Elijah?

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John the Baptist was in the spirit of Elijah, but not actually Elijah reincarnated. In other words, John's role was to be almost identical to that of Elijah's: to encourage people to turn away from sin and back to God. John is often compared to the great prophet Elijah.
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Luke 1: 13-17
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"But the angel said, "Don't be afraid, that Zechariah! God has heard your prayer. Your wife, Elizabeth, will give you a son, and you are to name him John. You will have great joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth, for he will be great in the eyes of the Lord. He must never touch wine or other alcoholic drinks. He will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even before his birth. And he will turn many Israelites to the Lord their God.
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He will be a man with the spirit and power of Elijah.
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He will prepare the people for the coming of our Lord. He will turn the hearts of the fathers to their children, and he will cause those who are we rebellious to accept the wisdom of the godly."

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Amen! Star. Hi! Harem. I pray your day is going well. God Bless!
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Hi James.....thankyou. My day is going wonderfully......I'm being lazy. Lol
It is so nice to answer questions with substance.
Have a great rest of the day! :)
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Once again goes to show... It's all interpretation...
At a Jewish Passover Seder in many traditions a Cup of wine is poured specifically for Ellijah (Kos Shel Eliyahu ha-Navi) after grace at end of meal front door is opened in the notion that Elijah will visit each home on Seder night as a foreshadowing of his arrival at the end of days, when he will come to announce the coming of the Jewish Messiah.
So guess he'd rather be Jewish. No? At least he'd be in good spirits at this " end of days"!
But then again... You just said John came " in the spirit of Elijah", again another interpratation.. No drinking.. Confusing... Ok, once again a case of agree to dis-agree?
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Agree... Chuckle :)
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Is your profile picture Jesus with a lion?

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Could symbolize 'Lion of Judah" ?
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Nice one, Jerky.
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Cute pic !!
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That's what the bible says.

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Not literally but spiritually

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What do u mean?

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If you read the Word Of God. it says John came in the Spirit of Elijah. Elijah never tasted death cause God took him.
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Probable means he came as a prophet as Elijah did pointing to someone greater than himself.
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Interesting question. This is what I found, which just confused me more.:
YES he was Elijah: (Matthew 11:13-14) - "For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14"And if you care to accept it, he himself is Elijah, who was to come."
NO he was not Elijah: (John 1:19-21) - "And this is the witness of John, when the Jews sent to him priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, "Who are you?" 20And he confessed, and did not deny, and he confessed, "I am not the Christ." 21And they asked him, "What then? Are you Elijah?" And he *said, "I am not." "Are you the Prophet?" And he answered, "No."

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Yes Spiritually he did. For when he came he wore the same clothing as Elijah. If you go back and read Elijah wore camel hair clothing and a belt just as John the Baptist did. Also Elijah never tasted death for God took him.
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Thanks James!!!
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Your welcome. God Bless!
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It seems very likely. After all, they were both kill joys.

But look what happened to John. He tried to close down a strip joint and had his as... er, I mean head, handed to him on a platter.

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Of course not. First, Elijah was a true prophet, sent by God and preached God's word and God's wish. John was self appointed. John was not a true prophet, given that Malachi, living some 4 centuries before John, was the last prophet. Lastly, Elijah never died. John died a rather gruesome death. As for what the NT says about the connection of John to Elijah: wishful thinking. It's definitely not true. Closer to the truth is what John himself said, John 1:19-21.

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John The Baptist Came
As Forerunner and In
The Spirit of Jesus
Christ, Son of
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Matthew 11:11-14

11 “Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. 13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come.
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Hi PsalmBody.......I haven't bumped into you for awhile. It's really nice to see you. Hope you're doing great. :)
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Lol :)

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Cute! :)
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There came a man sent from God, whose name was John.
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This man came to witness, that he might testify of the Light,
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that all men might believe in it [adhere to it, trust it, and rely upon it] through
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him. He was not the Light himself, but came that he might bear
witness regarding the Light. (John 1:6-8 AMP)
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Thankyou:)
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While, Matthew says that John was the reincarnation of Elijah.

"For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John. And if you care to accept it, he himself is Elijah, who was to come." Matthew 11:13-14

And John on the other hand says quite the opposite- " Are you Elijah?" And he answered, "I am not." John 1:21

You decide who is telling the truth. As for me, I dont believe he was Elijah. In the Quran, the birth John is miraculous because he is the offspring of a barren mother and an elderly father.

" O Zachariah! Lo! We bring you glad tidings of a son, whose name shall be John the Baptist." Quran 19:7

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HI MOMO.....did I say it loud enough for you to hear? Lol
Boy, did this weekend go by fast or what. I remember the last time we touched base was on Friday. We were wishing each other a nice weekend.
Well, I guess I can say have a great week now. I think I prefer the weekend wish......but then I'm retired, so what the heck.
Have a great week! :)
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I know right...weekends go so fast and now it's already Monday again. Cant wait to retire too (chuckle). Have a fantastic week, my friend! :)
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I'll give it my best shot! Lol
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Matthew 11:11-14

11 “Assuredly, I say to you, among those born of women there has not risen one greater than John the Baptist; but he who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. 12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. 13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John. 14 And if you are willing to receive it, he is Elijah who is to come.
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Cool, FB1! :)
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James, what part in "I am not Elijah did you not understand" (reference to John 1:21)?
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What part of Matt. 11:14 do you not understand. :-)
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Let's take a look at your scripture.


John 1:19-26

19 Now this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?”
20 He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.”

21 And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?”

He said, “I am not.”

“Are you the Prophet?”

And he answered, “No.”

22 Then they said to him, “Who are you, that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?”

23 He said: “I am


‘The voice of one crying in the wilderness:
“Make straight the way of the Lord,”’

as the prophet Isaiah said.”

24 Now those who were sent were from the Pharisees. 25 And they asked him, saying, “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?”
Notice he said " I am not Elijah, but they never asked him if he came in the spirit of Elijah. Major difference here. When people speak of a spirit of someone it means like minded. Let's go on. Then they asked him " The Prophet? " Again he said " No' They did not ask him with he was " A" prophet for John The Baptist was indeed a prophet.
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Oh Lord of the heavens and the earth, James open your Bible and go to the first chapter of John verse 21. The Jews asked John the Baptist if he was Elijah him. He answered "No I am NOT". He didnt say im not Elijah but im the spirit of Elijah. You are putting words into his mouth, just like you do with other prophets. For your information, John the Baptist denied being "that prophet" referring to Deut 18:18 because that prophet was Muhammad who was to come after Jesus.
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Not hardly. But that ok cause I'm not Islam and I don't read the Quran. And I put no words in no ones mouth, but you do.


Deuteronomy 18:18

New King James Version (NKJV)


18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him.

Where do you see the Word Mohammad in this verse. Talkimg about someone adding to the scriptures. :-)
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In your honest opinion, who else was a prophet like Moses, who was raised as an orphen, who had a natural birth and a natural death, who came up with a new book and a new religion, who had wives and children? That doesnt sound like Jesus at all. What do you think?
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There is no new book nor a new religiom.
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Well, didnt Moses come with the Torah and preached Judaism? Didnt Muhammad come with the Quran and preached Islam? Yeah, not sure you know your stuff very well.
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