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FunnyLittleFrog

If there wasn't one over George W. Bush, there will never be one. This country will take decades to recover from that man.

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So true!
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Stars that!
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I agree
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Add two more decades with his brother politician barrack Obama bush
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No. It isn't. If it was to happen, it would be over quickly.

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that's what they said the first time.
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@XXXX: It would be over quickly this time because there are no where near the numbers of dissatisfied citizens as there were in 1861 as a percentage of the population. There is way more blustery talk than commitment to such a horrendous act as waging war on our own citizens.
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I think its possible but not likely.

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yes its possible and not too far off

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Yes because the constitution is a compact. Which means that all parties have the right to interpose if they disagree. The supremecy act therefore is invalid. If action was to arise the combination of the insurrection act of 1807 and the posse comitatus act would not allow the fed to respond. Also makes argument that first civil war secesion was legal.

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All it would take is for congress to pass another bill like the 2007 Defense authorization bill. Not to mention state governors can deploy the NG, and if a state secedes then the acts you mention no longer apply, so your case is mute.
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@Caminator: Whether your analysis is correct or not, it is only theoretical if there is not a huge segment of the population that is so disenfranchised, and has such a horrible quality of life, that they would support such an action. I can see how a few wackos might feel that way if they never get outside their circle of fellow wackos, but they are, most certainly, not representative of the rank and file in this nation.
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Very true CalTex, anyone that gets their information only from the Drudge and Fox would think the world is on the brink of apocalypse :/
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Yes. There was a show about it too. Had Skeet Ulrich in it, and instead of north vs south it was east vs west. Forget the name of the show though.

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There is already a war going on in Washington over the validity of checks and balances and the importance of the individual under the law vs. the needs of the collective. Does the need of the many really outweigh the value of the one?

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There has always been a "civil" war going on in Washington. Sometimes, like now, it is less civil than other times. But that's how democracy works. It's messy. It's not a sign that our government is broken. It is a sign that the market place of ideas is fighting it out on the floor of Congress rather than in our streets and fields with the spilling of our common blood as so often happens in other nations with competing ideologies.
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Well said
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Well, I don't think so. Our last American Civil War (1861-1865) was a violently bloody one. 600,000 Americans died. Imagine another Civil War today, the US runs out of money and possibly troops. Today a second Civil War is very VERY unlikely.

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highly unlikely, but alway's possible

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If it is, it will be conducted in cyber - space, and the winners won't be the Luddites.

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Over what issue? Gay marriage? Abortion? Not likely.

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No way, a lot of people talking about it is possible but as always, talk is cheap

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Poor loser syndrome. Basically meaningless hissy fits.
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Pretty much
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Revolution is always possible
That has been proven thru out history
You should study your history you might learn something
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Anything is possible. There's little to suggest that revolution is near. I'd argue that the Occupy movement is a better indicator of that then the people disgruntled over losing an election. Also, a revolution takes many forms. It is not the same as a civil war where it's closer to 50/50.
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Chris, look around you. It's mostly pot bellied old guys who aren't going to give up their recliner and cold beer to take on the best military in the world.
And the rest of the fringe element isn't giving up their soft life either.
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Pot bellied? The guy asking the question is theFatman.
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Oops :) my bad
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Also, boo....other people are using the horse avatar which I find very annoying because it's not you.
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Ah tral, the difference is my avatar is actually one of my horses, not the generic one ask has...:)
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My ability to tell horses apart is clearly lacking. I will try harder.
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Look for silver halter ( leather thing on his head) lol
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Just look at this last election. More than half of the voting public approved of the current administration. It was the most lopsided victory since President Eisenhower was elected. And there simply aren't enough wackos in that minority of voters who would want to destroy this nation and its government. To get that kind of backing for a civil war there would need to be huge percentage of the population that are desperately disenfranchised and dissatisfied with the government, are whose quality of life is abysmal. I see no evidence of that now or it being the case in the foreseeable future.

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Although I agree there's no motivating force even close to the issue of slavery that caused secession the last one was the most lopsided? That can't be right. Reagan trounced Mondale far worse.
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Possibly the most cogent comment in the thread.
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Nope, Shiny. It was yours. Not only was it more cogent, it didn;t have typos like mine did :-)
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But he used "Operation" instead of "Occupy".

Also funny, it is "very few" in Occupy and "millions" in the tea party. Bigger numbers are easy when you do it in blogs instead of the streets.
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@Tralbry: I stand corrected. That is what happens when an old man relies on memory. The applicable factoid is that Obama was the only two-term president since Eisenhower to get more than 51% of the popular vote both times--and the first Democratic president since FDR,
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Civil war or revolution? Revolutions such as the French revolution require a disaffected lower and middle class, declining economic standards, difficulty finding jobs, lack of governmental social safety net, a competing political ideology, and a motivating (and oppressive) government. Almost all of these are lacking to some extent.
Civil wars require a coherent ideology competing with another, an economic engine, and a sharp division among military members regarding allegiances. You need people in the streets, protesting as well as rioting. You may have a few (very few actually) disaffected anarchists in the Operation Wall Street movement, and maybe a couple hundred thousand or a million Tea Party activists, but none of them seem to be able to galvanize thousands to spontaneously protest. And as polarized as Democrats and Republicans are, there are not that many differences: both support Medicare and Social Security. Both believe in Big Government. Both believe in a strong national defense and even believe in public health care. The differences are on the margins (perhaps ~10 pct of GDP in taxes and spending), and how much will be private versus public. These actually are smallish differences which, if partisan rhetoric were toned down, we could find compromises that work.

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