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Why do people NEED assault rifles?

and don't say because it's my second amendment or because 3 guys with Ak-47's are going to kick your door down and rob you because if you feel that way then you need to consult a councler.

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Why do you NEED a car?
If you lived closer to work and shopping, you could walk. Or ride a bike. Or take public transportation.

Do you see the point?
People have tons (literally) of possessions they don't NEED.

The 2nd Amendment is not about what people need ... it's about limiting the power of government.

EDIT: I did like how Biden said we should all have shotguns for home defense.

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So you think the government is going to declare martial laws or some s***
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They have declared Martial twice in the history of our country. Not to mention after katrina hit in New Orleans.
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Damn straight!!
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Its a social norm in America

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I don't think they do.

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Depends on your definition of assault rifle, and if it includes modified weapons initially assumed as another type. Generally for military-style weapons, collection and target shooting. That's about it.

LOL on the AK comment. I believe that the most common gun used in crime is a .22 caliber hand gun. And the most common violent crime with a gun is impromptu suicide.

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Actually, the most common weapon used in violent crime is ... a baseball bat.
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I meant the most common gun. A .22 cal hand gun as opposed to an assault rifle, shotgun, etc. My mistake.
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They don't. People don't need assault rifles to hunt or for protection.

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Take a "hunting rifle" ... replace the stock with a folding one, and add a pistol grip ... and you have an "assault rifle". Which, in fact, is more ergonomic to the shooter.
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Nobody uses 20 bullets to shoot an animal. I just don't find it necessary.
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Um yes they do. Just finished watching a show about land owners harvesting violent 500 lb wild boar that travel in herds of 10-100. Also guns aren't always used for hunting.
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I had a 22 that held 18 rounds. It doesn't take all 18 to shoot a squirrel but it's convenient to be able to shoot 2 or 3 without having to reload or stop to put another round in the chamber. I was in a survival situation and that Semi auto came in handy. Also read the second amendment and the reason for it. It's not about hunting.
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I realize it's convenient. I realize it's in our constitution. I realize that anything can be used as a weapon and can be dangerous, But I also see that they aren't necessary. That's my opinion.
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Perhaps not necessary to you ... but necessary to others.

As I said elsewhere ... it's not "necessary" for most people to own cars.

But it's not the job of the American government to decide what is, or is not, necessary.
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That's true. But I was just answering if people Need guns like that.
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As you saw ... some people need guns like that.

The problem with saying whether or not anybody "needs" something, anything ... is that it's a total subjective opinion. And no law should be based on subjective opinions.
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That's the problem with Americans, we don't need guns that's why god gave us hands and feet.

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Why? So we could give the guy with the gun the finger and then run away?
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God never gave us fire. We had to discover that ourselves. God never gave us the steel in our hands, the computer in your house, the fire in your hearth.
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Yeah ask the Polish, how they put up a fight with their guns and HORSES against Germany in 1939. Ask the Incas how they lost tens of thousands to only a handul of Spaniards back in 15"whatever". Now the East Indians put up a good fight against the British, but I can assure you it MIGHT have been quicker to gain their independence via a firearm or two as opposed to Ghandi's method. Still guilt trips can be potent weapons, assuming those you're giving them too have a modicum of a conscience. Otherwise it might help to have something a little more potent or clever for defense.
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Don't need em, just like to shoot em, I have some. but for home protection, they aren't even on my list, or at the ready

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For some people (me) it is easier to shoot an AR type rifle than a pistol or handgun. I have nerve damage in both my shoulders from the military, and can not hold a pistol stable enough, where i'm confident to shoot a person If I needed to without injuring someone else in the background. A semi automatic rifle allows me to shoulder the weapon, and shoot with very low recoil so I can have a better reaction time to multiple targets. Also having a higher capacity magazine allows me to have efficient enough ammo to get the job done, it's better to have more than you need, than need more than you have.

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Or having them and never needing them is better than needing one and not having one
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she's referring to something like sandy hook, where civilians have rifles that can be used for public shootings.
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And i'm referring to self defense...
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Why do I need to justify it to you? Who do you think you are to decide what I need? What is your definition of assault rifle? If you don't think law abiding citizens have a right to defend themselves then you are the one who needs counseling. Would you bring a knife to a gunfight?

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So, you just wan to disregard the second amendment? If we aren't allowed to have that, who shouldn't you just take away our freedom of speech, our right to no cruel and unusual punishment. Robbers will always get guns. Citizens might not. Why not defend ourselves? your point is clearly wrong, because what if I got robbed? its not uncommon, especially in big cities like NYC. Now there are nut jobs who think the zombie apocalypse will happen, but still. WHAT IF IT DID! Don't tell me how to live my life.

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The second amendment was created by our founding fathers to ensure that no one could take the other amendments away. Rifles are to defend ourselves against tyrannical government oppression.
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.? ? George Washington
?The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.? ? Thomas Jefferson

When the people are well armed(assault rifles)others are less inclined to tread upon their rights.
Too attack the second is to attack America.
So when they say that these weapons are for killing lots of people, I would totally agree.

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well said my friend. well said
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That's right. Oooorahhhh!
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Said it all there buddy
I'll stand shoulder to shoulder with you any day
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Very few people understand that today and they think they are the smart ones and we are the paranoid nut jobs.
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You should have gotten more stars for that answer.
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Because I like shooting it. I like owning one. I like showing it to people. I especially like when I hit a bullseye. That's why I like it. It's a hobby and its my "right to bear arms".

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Don't need them. They can join the military if they want one. I think any gun in burglars face with leave them shaking. plus their just dust collectors I wouldn't use it for deer hunting. My 30-30 worked just fine for deer.

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Killed more deer than any other round, also wounded more( that's supposed to be funny, not knocking the good ol 30-30)
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Shot mine in the neck and dropped him right on the spot.
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A 30 30 is a good gun but I'm not too worried about a herd of deer busting my door down and hauling me off to prison for speaking out against my government. The second amendment protects the first amendment. It's an individual right reserved for the citizens. It has nothing to do with deer and it doesn't say that only the members of the militia have the right to keep and bear arms. It says the right of the people, not the right of the militia.
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You can say all you want about these assault rifles and stuff but to me they are a waste of money.
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Got some, and I have agree, dust collectors. I do shoot them, but not very often. And I hit the range at least 2 times a month
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If people have the money and want to buy them it's their right whether you think it's a waste of money or not. The government certainly takes a lot of people's money and wastes it why shouldn't they be able to waste some of their own if they have any left.
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Well, if we were all "good boys-n-girls" we wouldn't need such things. I personally don't need one, and even if I really "needed" it, having more than one, might be an invitation for perhaps those you fear, to come and band together to relieve you of them. ( I especially keep my eye out for those who think they need to carry even pistols UNLOADED as per "open carry" in Starbucks Coffee shops so, I know who to rob or raid when the time comes. (Even Chuck Liddell might have a hard time defending himself with an UNLOADED pistol carried out in the open from say 3-4 guys with baseball bats, waiting to appropriate such finer armaments for themselves. Also the govt. is not stupid, they basically know who has what, so if you put up a fight when/if the time comes, they may indeed pry such weapons from your cold, or even still lukewarm dead fingers. Just saying.

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Who carries an unloaded firearm?

AFAIK, "open carry" is the alternative to "concealed carry" in states that allow you to visibly carry ... and the firearm is loaded.
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To Walt_OReagun: To be honest I do not know personally of anyone who carries an unloaded firearm. I happen to mention that because I BELIEVE (don't quote me) that I read a newspaper or magazine article of some non law enforcement individuals who were making some kind of, in my opinion, VERY STUPID "statement" to the public by carrying "unloaded?" firearms in a Starbucks Coffee Shop and elsewhere to the consternation of the article writer and I guess the unarmed patrons of the particular Starbucks where this occurred. This was a couple of years ago and I'm pretty sure this incident occurred somewhere in California, maybe even near my "neck of the woods". I just remember thinking to myself after reading this, that if I knew where these clowns lived, and I had me a "posse" of my own, and my "posse" was in need of weaponry these "cowboys" would be my FIRST target. Even if their weapons were really loaded and these dudes were NOT law enforcement types, their "statement" assuming they were making one, wasn't too bright. Even most REAL law enforcement personnel would prefer that their living quarters not be very well known just for the very reason that when it is known for sure that they are gone, a break-in can occur and weapons/ammo could get stolen.
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I heard something about this story. I didn't know that the guns were unloaded. That seems a little stupid. It was my understanding that there was pressure being applied to Starbucks to not allow people to carry guns in their stores as they are private property and they have the right to forbid people from carrying guns on their property. It is my understanding that Starbucks decided to comply with laws allowing open carry and not forbid it in their stores. I believe that was a wise decision not to allow themselves to be used to further the agenda of the gun control advocates. If there is more to the story than I am aware of I would love to hear about it. You can rest assured that if you see me walking around with a gun strapped to my hip, it will be loaded.
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To JDBoDean: I don't remember all the details to this story. I still stand my ground and say that even if legal, it really is NOT a wise idea to let the general public know that you are "packing". However YOU can rest assured that if I do see you, more than likely, I will have no plans to relieve you of your piece or pieces. I don't know you or where you live, and perhaps there is a chance that YOU know ME, more than I would like already, I say this because there are places where some real bad dangerous folks live and/or congregate, and if you become even casually "acquainted" with them, they could conceivably mess up your life, with or without a loaded firearm by your side. (They may already have their own, but still its nice to have something stolen or "confiscated" to make someone disappear a lot more smoothly.)
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I don't walk around with a gun strapped to my hip. I'm not interested in scaring people or looking for trouble. I was just making a point.
I used to live in Bellingham Wa., a very liberal town. I once carried a 30 30 from my car across the street to a gun store. You should have seen the looks I got. It was funny and sad at the same time. This was before 9/11/01, Columbine or any of the mass shootings we hear about today (of course it wasn't before gun violence was invented) just the sight of a man walking across the street with a rifle was enough to freak some people out. Kind of ridiculous.
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To JDBoDean: Boy I am seriously going to put my true identity at risk by sharing this story with you. I think you will find it very interesting. I used to be a Military Policeman at a pretty prominent Fort here in the continental USA. One night while out on patrol in an area that my partner and I were "patrolling" (In order to avoid doing any real police work,) we came across an unlocked car out in the middle of "nowhere". (Actually not too far from where artillary did their thing shooting their Howitzers and other types of ordnance. ) Being that the vehicle was unlocked on a military post, we decided to take a peek inside. WOW! This soldier had quite the arsenal in his back seat! I mean stuff that would make the most ardent "survivalist" drool and perhaps play with himself. My partner was really excited at our find. (I guess at the time he thought a "Russian" was planning on taking over the 1st Infantry Division given that much of his weaponly looked like the stuff we saw on our training cards and training posters posted in our bathroom stalls (Don't ask if you don't know what I'm talking about : D) MY first thought upon this discovery was VERY UN-police like: I'M thinking: "Hmmm, lets just appropriate a few of these for ourselves, and just forget we found this car out here in the middle of "nowhere". Fortunately my partner's head prevailed although, I did drop some hints to him. Well, much too my partners disappointment, all the soldier who owned the firearms was guilty of (BESIDES EXTREME stupidity in my opinion) was "poaching" and not letting his unit or the Provost Marshal know of all of his weapons. Other than than that, he was "legit". I think he ended up getting all his weapons back, and these were things that definitely would make Sen. Dianne Feinstein wet her panties and not with excitement or THAT type of "excitement". (Hmm, or WOULD it? Sorry I digress.) CONTINUED...
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I'm glad MY idea of making off with a few of these weapons did not prevail, although I do wonder to this day if my partner was thinking of it himself. Any real civilian cop reading this would say or think it was a "set up" by the Provost Marshal, kind of like a set up by a civilian IAD to test any cop who may strongly be tempted to bend the rules way beyond the "breaking point". If that was the case, then I'm glad "I" failed that test. This dude had at least 5 pieces of "heavy metal" and I wouldn't doubt that at least one of them was full auto. Oh, did I mention he had quite the magazine collection as well? (No, not Playboy!) I've given enough info, if I haven't already, that someone could recognize this story and know who I really am, so I am not going to say what year this was. (It was prior to 9-11 and prior to the days when you could buy large quantities of fertilizer and live downtown in the middle of an urban enviroment without arousing any suspicion, if you catch my drift. As the Bunker's sang: "Those were the days!"
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Interesting story. I know that there are paranoid freaks out there and always have been. I don't know what other people may try to figure out but I'm not trying to figure out who you are. If we did know each other I would not be a threat to you. I'm not a violent person and I have nothing to prove. I'm just a citizen who supports the Constitution. I respect the military and law enforcement.
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Why do people take pictures of themselves with no shirt on? Don't tell me it's my 1st amendment right. It's really unattractive.

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If it's Marisa Tomai it's fine. If it's Larry the Cable guy, not so much.
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For home defense so they can get around the corners and obstacles easier in their home. To make them more accurate (ex. Bullpup) say why don't you ask law enforcement why they need them when their not military. Does a 22lr. rifle that looks like an M4 or a G36C an assault rifle? Well? If this is about Sandy Hook there was no AR-15 the media and politics lied about that so they could use Sandy Hook for a potential ban as a matter of fact he only used 2 pistols INSIDE the school I saw the video of police unloading the so called AR-15 out of his car I've shot an AR-15 before and loaded them before and can field strip one blind folded and put it back together again and again that was no AR-15 they were unloading it was a 12 gauge pump action shotgun I saw him unloading it from underneath the barrel not behind it an AR-15 loads behind the barrel not under it. Well guess what? Why do you care about what guns people should own? You can't blame the good law abiding gun owners for an action caused by a criminal.

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Bottom line is that we can't just pick and choose what parts of the constitution we want to follow. If we responsibly follow any amendment we can't just disregard it because some lunatic takes his mom's guns and shoots up her classroom. Keep guns away from criminals not responsible Americans. Do we NEED AR type weapons... It's debatable. Should they be outlawed... no. Besides anyone who chooses to use them lawfully is shooting off about 2$ per round at the range. 2$ x 30 round magazine.

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That's why I laugh a little when people say bad people have AR's and 50cals. No they don't, 1000 to 5000 is what you'll pay for these kinds of rifles, not to mention ammo for said guns, don't think they have that kind of money. Even a stolen rifle needs expensive ammo
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Good point
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'Murica!

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To Blue TrueNewMoo: I have to confess, as often as I read this response and as humorous as it reads, I don't really "get" it.
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First of all: TO MY FELLOW PRO-GUN PEEPS HELL YEAH!!!!!!!
Secondly thousands die each year in car accidents
Should we outlaw cars!!
Start letting the socialist administration pick away at the constitution they won't stop till we are like communist Russia
Just a bunch of scared sheep who can only say baah baah

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Yes, but even the "Wolves" have to follow orders, if you can dig what I'm saying.
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Hear that buddy
We all answer to someone
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I don't believe they need one, its a thing they would like to own because they can. If that is not the true answer, then they believe a war will erupt on their homeland and they would need the fire power to win or protect themselves.

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me too,

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Its a social norm in America

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Depends on your definition of assault rifle, and if it includes modified weapons initially assumed as another type. Generally for military-style weapons, collection and target shooting. That's about it.

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Its a social norm in America

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Depends on your definition of assault rifle, and if it includes modified weapons initially assumed as another type. Generally for military-style weapons, collection and target shooting.

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Depends on your definition of assault rifle, and if it includes modified weapons initially assumed as another type. Generally for military-style weapons, collection and target shooting. That's about it.

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Why do I need to justify it to you? Who do you think you are to decide what I need? What is your definition of assault rifle? If you don't think law abiding citizens have a right to defend themselves then you are the one who needs counseling. Would you bring a knife to a gunfight?

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Depends on your definition of assault rifle, and if it includes modified weapons initially assumed as another type. Generally for military-style weapons, collection and target shooting. That's about it.

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ts a social norm in America

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Generally for military-style weapons, collection and target shooting.

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They don't. People don't need assault rifles to hunt or for protection.

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Its a social norm in America

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I don't think they do.

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They don't. People don't need assault rifles to hunt or for protection.

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