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If Satan punishes the bad, isn't he the good guy?

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lol

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Except if you're talking the Christian religion ... Satan doesn't punish the bad.

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Ah no, Satan is never the good guy.

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But he gave people logical thinking and other valued things.
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He did? I don't care to have Satan's "logical thinking" or "valued things."
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Clearly, you are without logical thinking already.
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LOL. Thx!!!
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but satan isnt bad either, where in the bible does it say satan murdered and killed??, it only says in old testiment that god does the killing of millions who don't obey his commandments, read your scriptures and you will see, if it weren't for satan we wouldn't have knowledge inwhich god did not want us to have as he told adam not to eat from tree of knowledge, make sense?
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He doesn't punish them.

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What is he down there for?
If he doesn't punish them, and makes it better for them, then isn't hell a pretty good place to be?
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You're still seeing it wrong. For one Satan isn't in hell right now. Two God punishes the evil, along with satan.
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@tic_tac spot on
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When you say it that way, yes... But isn't Satan being punished himself by being down there in Hell? He just wants others to suffer with him.

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how do we know that?, don't go by the christians theory, they accuse satan of being bad cause their sucked up gods ass, read the scriptures and you will see in the old testiment what god did to women and children, which are sad, most churches only go by the new testiment of jesus, so their trying to hide the other to make out god is good, yes maybe he is good but he also is jealous if you worship false gods and idols or do your own desires, theres alot to learn about god before anyone can judge satan on being the bad one
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Haha!

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Ya wouldn't you think! YES!! But, he is not real so no.

wait no i was talking about santa!

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Hypothetically speaking I suppose.
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wait i thought you said Santa! lol
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So, you think that santa punishes the evil?
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So that would make his elves the souls that are to be punished for all eternity? It kind of makes sense. The elves are pretty much his slaves, working 365 days with unknown work periods (I assume they work almost nonstop), forever. Hmm...
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Yes. Wait no. Wait. what?

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Does this sound like a good guy .....?
1st Peter 5:8
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

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be vigilant; because your adversary god, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour

You can make anyone sound bad, simply by saying that they are.
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consider the source of this quote.... a fictional book.
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Well, coming from a book of contradictions...it's not so easy to believe. As Weapon said, you could write anything to make someone look bad.
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im sorry but i havent found a single contradiction in this book
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No? Here's one: men are supposed to be experienced when it comes to sex. Women must be virgins, homosexuality and masturbation is a sin. How can you be experienced?
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GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
So it says god made the animals first, then a few chapters later it says that god made the animal because Adam was lonely.
This is in the first book of the bible, and hilariously, is isn't even the first contradiction in the bible.
Shall I continue Solomon?
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PSA 92:12: "The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree."

ISA 57:1: "The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart."
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MATTHEW 27:46,50: "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost."

LUKE 23:46: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

JOHN 19:30: "When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost."

They cannot agree on what the last words of Jesus were, this, by definition, is a blatant contradiction.
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cue the crickets.....
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Amen, may God bless us all.
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read more into the old testiment and you will see all the psycho things god did to many millions of people who didn't obey or worship him if you think god is good, why on heck is there a new testiment???, whats wrong with the old one, oh wait!, is it cause god made mistakes, theres us thinking he was perfect, satan isn't bad, its just christianity theorys sucking up gods ass
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He hasn't punished me, so nope.

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hahha,, this made me think.. lol

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No. Not up for discussion.

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i believe it is up for discussion. it is a valid question.
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It's not really punishment, more like entertainment.

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lol
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Then, hell seems pretty good, right?
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Ahh, I should have specified. The suffering of souls is entertainment for Satan. Haha.
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Um....I´ll be right back ..hold on lmao.

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There is no Satan.

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"Saint" Paul thought so. He hired Satan to teach people. Twice. He conjured Satan and yet Christians still call him a saint.

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So...
Since he conjured satan, and he is still thought of as a saint, then that only enforces the idea that satan is good.
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Paul thought so. Who's more saintly than Paul?
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One more added to many contradictions of biblical teachings
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As long as you're taking notes, you can note well the specific scripture where Paul brags about it:

1 Corinthians 5:5
1 Timothy 1:20
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Clara I believe you fail to understand these passages. When you say Paul conjured or hired Satan to teach you're not reading the verses carefully - Paul says he delivered or turned these people over to Satan. It's a punishment, a condemnation for those people, not a collaboration w Satan.
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You mean that I'm not reading those passages the way preachers twist them to be. Of course not. I make a point to read things in the plain English that appears on the page. Have any idea how many scholars have gone over that material to "translate" it to read "correctly"? The religious has studied and retranslated and revised and re-revised for centuries and you're here to tell me that they STILL didn't get it into plain English yet?

I was born at night but it wasn't last night. You'll have to come up with a better excuse than that, I'm afraid.
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Corrupt principles and examples, if not corrected, would hurt the whole church.
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Paul, Apostle of Jesus
Christ, By The Spirit
Of God Was Led
T o Remove A
Rotten Apple
From The
Bunch.
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3-4 And even though I am far away from you in body, still I am there with you in spirit; and as though I were there with you, I have in the name of our Lord Jesus already passed judgment on the man who has done this terrible thing. As you meet together, and I meet with you in my spirit, by the power of our Lord Jesus present with us, 5 you are to hand this man over to Satan for his body to be destroyed, so that his spirit may be saved in the Day of the Lord.
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"the church", in terms of Christianity on the whole, is as corrupt as its bazillions of versions of scripture. And equally as barbaric.
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Y e s,, That Is The Reason
That Those Determined
To Spoil The Bunch
Must Be Handed
Oner To satan
As Led By
H o l y
Spitit.
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So, basically, God's in league with Satan. That makes God evil, or the devil good. They're still equal.
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Everyone Is Welcome
To Who They Rank
In Leagues; and
Measures
T h e y
Use.
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wow...true...but he tells people to do bad stuff

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He does not punish anyone, he try's to get everyone in trouble, because it is the only way satan can hurt God.

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wrong!, to christians minds that is, god did many wrong things in old testiment and i wander why they made a new testiment eh?, i know thats when jesus existed but why make new commandments and a new testiment whats wrong with the old ones
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I guess but he leads people into there

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You're right

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God punishes the wicked. Satan is simply among the punished

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what do we do wrong to make us wicked???, cause we do our own will and desires??, whats so wrong about that??, plus a hear sex is a sin, then if we arent allowed sex then no more humans would evolve in the world from the womens woom, only to gods eyes its all sin because we arent doing his will, but didnt he give us free well to choose what we want to do, it said god did give us free will but choose the wrong one we get punished, what a contradiction
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Don't call evil good .Ok

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Satan punishes no one he is the father of lies .he is a defeated foe .The evil one .he is here to kill steal and destroy .On of his names is the destroyer
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he will be thrown into the lake and fire just wait and see
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Interesting question! I've thought this myself, actually! The only reason Lucifer looks over hell is because he turned from god. I don't think he's the terrible person Christianity made him to be. I think he redeemed himself by punishing the bad. (Please keep slanders/other unchrist-like words to yourself. I do not appreciate being told I'm going to hell because I have a different opinion than your religion teaches. God gave us free will for a reason!)

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No, because he takes pride in torturing them

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satan doesnt punish us, god does, read revelations
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It's not that he's punishing people it's just that he wants people to become like him and be miserable. And he will try to make good and bad people choose the wrong.

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satan Punishes The Good, Bad
and The Ugly... Everyone He
Can Get Permission From
God To Wreck Havoc
In Their Lives. Psalm
91 Gives Anecdote
To His Antics.
He Is Bad
To T h e
bone.

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your not pointing out the other scriptures like those typical christians do, god is the one that punishes us for not obey his ways, get it right, god creates evil, where did satan find it all from??, obviously god cos god created him, so who then causes it all?, god!!!, read the old testiment properly
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Satan is always the good guy.

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That's not called punishment. He tricks people into doing bad thing. Like when u're jealous of someone and u try to talk them into doing something that's bad for them do u call that punishment?

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lol, thx ;)
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you all say satans bad, look at god who creates all evil in the old testiment, read all of the old testiment of how god makes his own people suffer because of disobedience before you start judging satan
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Well, perhaps the description of God in Christianty is wrong. U should learn what all religions have to say about God and satan then judge em.
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he doesnt punish the bad hes the one who causes the bad. he tempts us and as a result we get punished

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The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations and simply means the common grave of mankind. This has not stopped SOME christians and many non-christions from teaching that hell is a place where Satan and his Demons rule and where wicked people go after they die to be tortured for their sins. This belief began when the clergy wanted to scare people into attending church and hand over their meager wages. (research this subject, it's very interesting)

If wicked people go there why did Job who was upright speak of going there? Because he was merely speaking of the common grave. (Job 14:13)

Also, how can your "soul" go to Hell after death when the bible says: Ezekiel 18:4:“The soul that is sinning—it itself will die."

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The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other translations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Other Bibles simply transliterate the original-language words that are sometimes rendered “hell”; that is, they express them with the letters of our alphabet but leave the words untranslated. What are those words? The Hebrew she’ohl? and its Greek equivalent hai?des, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek ge?en·na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction. However, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).

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“Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception.”—The Encyclopedia Americana (1942), Vol. XIV, p. 81.
Translators have allowed their personal beliefs to color their work instead of being consistent in their rendering of the original-language words. For example: (1) The King James Version rendered she’ohl? as “hell,” “the grave,” and “the pit”; hai?des is therein rendered both “hell” and “grave”; ge?en·na is also translated “hell.” (2) Today’s English Version transliterates hai?des as “Hades” and also renders it as “hell” and “the world of the dead.” But besides rendering “hell” from hai?des it uses that same translation for ge?en·na. (3) The Jerusalem Bible transliterates hai?des six times, but in other passages it translates it as “hell” and as “the underworld.” It also translates ge?en·na as “hell,” as it does hai?des in two instances. Thus the exact meanings of the original-language words have been obscured.
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Matt. 25:46, KJ: “These shall go away into everlasting punishment [“lopping off,” Int; Greek, ko?la·sin]: but the righteous into life eternal.” (The Emphatic Diaglott reads “cutting-off” instead of “punishment.” A footnote states: “Kolasin . . . is derived from kolazoo, which signifies, 1. To cut off; as lopping off branches of trees, to prune. 2. To restrain, to repress. . . . 3. To chastise, to punish. To cut off an individual from life, or society, or even to restrain, is esteemed as punishment;—hence has arisen this third metaphorical use of the word. The primary signification has been adopted, because it agrees better with the second member of the sentence, thus preserving the force and beauty of the antithesis. The righteous go to life, the wicked to the cutting off from life, or death. See 2 Thess. 1.9.”)
Jude 7, KJ: “Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (The fire that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah ceased burning thousands of years ago. But the effect of that fire has been lasting; the cities have not been rebuilt. God’s judgment, however, was against not merely those cities but also their wicked inhabitants. What happened to them is a warning example. At Luke 17:29, Jesus says that they were “destroyed”; Jude 7 shows that the destruction was eternal.)
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my answer 4 u is this:
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That is an interesting thought, however God’s Word describes the Devil as “the father of the lie” (John 8:44) Satan the Devil is powerful, yet his power is limited when it comes to causing death directly. This vicious spirit fosters deceit and seduction and plants murderous attitudes in the hearts and minds of people. His lie conveyed by means of a serpent to the first woman Eve, which brought death to her and to her husband Adam. (Ge 3:1-5, 16-19) That first lie was rooted in selfishness and wrong desire. It was designed to divert the love and obedience of the first human pair to the liar. This is evidence that it was the Devil who spoke as a serpent, and that this one was a manslayer from the beginning of his lying, devilish course.

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it is clear and simple in the bible as it contradicts alot, god is the one punishing the wicked and the devil and his demons, but yet in the old testiment it says the dead shall be conscious of nothing, swapping and changing its words isnt it?, and how can you say satan is the bad one, look what god has did in the old testiment before you judge satan

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All knees shall bow & confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

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That doesn't answer the question, in any way.
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