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JamesKaeberle

There are two Baptisms. The Baptism of water in which is being immersed under water representing dying to the flesh and being resurrected in the Spirit. Then theres the actual thing called being Baptised with The Holy Spirit were brothers and sisters of Christ lay hands on you and pray for you to receive the Baptism Of the Holy Spirit.

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kaligirl77
Baptism is when U ask Christ into your life and U immediately recieve the baptism of the Holy Spirit, no one has to lay hands on U, that's a Apostolic oneness belief, I was involved in that cult for 7+ years!
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JamesKaeberle
kaligirl. No that's not true.

Hebrews 6:1-3

6 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. 3 And this we will do if God permits.

Jesus said you must be Born Again to enter the kingdom of Heaven. The thief on the cross was never water baptisted.So you tell me how was it that Jesus told Him today you will be with me in paradise?

I'm considered penetcostal not Apostolic. And i know for a fact that for me it wasn't until I was prayed for that I received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues. God can not be put in a box. He can baptist you with the Holy Spirit when you are emerged in water. He can baptist you when people pray for you and He can Baptist you the moment you first believe. But here's the key. How do you know your filled with the Holy Spirit? I can honestly say I have because of the power I received to be delivered from sin. That's the reason why there are to many different branches of Christinity because a lot of them think they are but there's no fruit or deliverance. God is not a God of confusion He doesn't tell you something and then turn around and tell me something else. I've been a Born Again Christian for over 30 years and have seen more miracles and healings and people coming to God in my first 5 years than most people see in their life time.
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kaligirl77
I'm not really sure what your getting at but if your saying that (U have to) speak in tongues in order to be saved then I disagree...
The bible never tells us that we must speak in tongues, it is a gift, 1 Cor 12.27~31.
And James, sorry U blocked me from following U just cause we have a lil disagreement.
God speed.
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JamesKaeberle
It's more than a little disahreement you literally are preaching a fault doctrine. And just because you were in a cult for 7 years doesn't prove that what I know and believe about the Holy Spirit is false. Tongues are for all believers who seek it. It's not the Holy Spirit but it's the evidences of the Holy spirit. Jesus said you have not because you ask not. It does not come to you automaicly. Many Many Christians go though life not even kowing about the Holy Spirit. And as I have said before if Christians are in disagreement ther there's something terribly wrong. it shows me there are millions out that that think their Saved and filled with the Holy Spirit but are not. And the bible even talks about that. Speaking in tongue is a private prayer language between your spirit and God's spirit. The devil has no clue of what is being said between you and God.
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kaligirl77
Okay I agree with what your saying, just thought U meant that U said (U HAVE) to speak in tongues in order to be saved...
and in no way was I insinuating that U were Apostolic and were of that cult, I guess I just get very defensive when it comes to that matter.
My apologies.
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JamesKaeberle
Apologies accepted. Gob bless!
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Don't want to jump into your (2) discussion, but
James, please, if you are going to make a citation from the Bible please make it a legitimate reference : )
Hebrews 6:1-36 ??? Can you tell what version you use?
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JamesKaeberle
Doesn't matter what version I use. If the Holy Spirit isn't leading you you won't understand it anyway even if it's in plain english. The Bible was created fo believers who walk according to the Spirit and not the flesh.
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Oh, I see, that is how you look at things. " It doesn't matter" even if there is no such thing in the Bible.
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Baptism is the dunking in water by certain Baptist churches And others 2 Cleanse the body and soul this will remove the sin

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Where did you get your info from??
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God says (1 Peter 3:21) that is NOT the cleansing of the body that has anything to do with salvation! Getting wet (e.g. diving into a pool, etc.) has nothing to do with salvation.
It is only when it is done in conjunction with God's plan and Jesus' sacrifice, (and our response to it) that immersion is the one baptism God speaks of in Ephesians 4:5.
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Baptism is an outwardly sign that you have accepted the lord Jesus Christ as your personal savior.

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Well, there are 2. One is when you are baptised in water. As a symbol that you are born again in Christ. The other type would be baptism of the Holy Spirit where you speak in tongues. I have never done it but I have seen it. It is totally and completely real.

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kaligirl77
U don't have to speak in tongues to know that U have received the Holy Spirit.
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kaligirl77
That is just the evidence.
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You don't believe that the fruit of the spirit is the evidence?
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I know that. But, just like you said it is evidence.
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dkks^^. Fruits of the spirit is different than what we are talking about. Although the fruits of the spirit are a sign of Christianity.
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I was thinking that you were talking about evidence that a person had God's spirit in them.
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The Bible says there is only one baptism (Ephesians 4:5).
It is how you get into Christ (Galatians 3:27, Romans 6:3). When you have heard the Gospel (that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day First Corinthians 15:1-4) you believe it, and realizing your sins are wrong, you repent (not only are sorry for them, but "do a 180" - that is, determine to stop following/obeying satan and start following/obeying God), confess that Jesus is the Christ/the Son of God, and be baptized (that is, immersed). In Christ you receive the forgiveness of sins, and the gift of the Holy Spirit. Although at that point you are in Christ you need to continue to grow in Him and bear the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5: 22,23).
The new birth is of the water and the Spirit (John 3:5). Physically you go down into the water (so you get wet) and spiritually you have your sins removed becoming a new person (2 Corinthians 5:17) so you feel great!

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