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Which do you think America will see first: a female President, a gay President, or an atheist President?

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get Hillary and you will have all three

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Seriously, what is up with those pant-suits?
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they hide her cankles
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Seriously, what's up with such a wrong answer?
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wickedpissah
It was a joke. Relax.
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There's nothing wrong with those things....
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ClaraListensprechen
Indeed, but none of 'em is named Hillary. It's not funny.
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wickedpissah
Wait. Are we talking about pant-suits, or cankles?
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Why can't they grow chickens with cankles, more meat on the bone.
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Crow, I had to stop by and tell you your answer is PURE-GOLD-GENIUS!!!
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the chickens body structure won't support pantsuits
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I wish to God I thought of this!!
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I guess you're right crowtrobot, chickens don't have a waist for a belt.
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Hillary? I would have to switch to the GOP For representation
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Hillary's too old, she needs crutches for her cheek jowles.
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Maybe Hillary will run as a GOP'er. She was a union-busting lawyer for Wal*Mart before she took public office.
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quite possibly the best/funniest answer I've ever seen ;)
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Mona....same here.....8)
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You took the words right out of my mouth .
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I was going to say we've probably had two out of three already but crowbot kind of beat me with that concept and went one step beyond.
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You are right
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Rofl! Great answer!
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Lol!!!
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I have to say that the lack of common civility and respect demonstrated by this answer is appalling. I am ashamed of those who participated in this string.
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cu....haha
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L0L!!!
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Female.

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Atheist president.

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That would be nice for a change.
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It sure would be nice for a change, but you know that the part of the Constitution that religionists break first and repeatedly is that clause which prohibits any religious test for positions in government and public trust.
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Stars Clara!
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Well that all started back on Day One. The pilgrims claimed to have left England in search of "religious freedom", but they meant the freedom for everyone to worship their god their way OR ELSE.
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Whoa.. Well we have a number of Congress members that are gay so probably gay [with the way the ACLU is winning its causes] but probably a female.

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Abraham Lincoln slept with men, and James Buchanan was a life long bachelor (not that that makes someone gay though); I say we've already had a gay president in the past, just closeted, lol. I see a woman though to become a president of the US before an openly gay man/ woman.
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I am an admirer of Lincoln and have done some in depth studying of him. Yes, he slept with a man, but it was because there was only one bed. Things were different in Lincoln's day, less fear of being called gay because people minded their own business. It was practical to sleep in the same bed, so they did. There is no convincing evidence that he was gay, in fact, quite the contrary.
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Actually, when he stayed with his friend Joshua Speed (I believe that was his name) they stayed together in a large house with plenty of rooms, and shared a bed together even still. You left something out of your research?
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Wouldn't surprise me.
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Conservation of body heat. Big houses are tough to heat. It's easier to build just one fire rather than two.
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Could of very well have been for that reason. But in a very large house, while he was president, him and an army officer of his shared a bed together when the wife was away at Abraham presidential retreat. Even at the time, a lot of people gossiped about the nature of their relationship. A woman who was close to the two man even wrote in her diary once "There is a bucktail soldier devoted to the president... Drives with him... And when Mrs. L is not home, sleeps with him..."
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So let's just say, hypothetically, that Mr Lincoln was secretly gay.
Would that matter?
Would that diminish the stature of his accomplishments?
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No, Never. I wasn't trying to "diminish the stature of his accomplishments." Its not like I've made points to devalue him in anyway. After all, I am gay myself. I'm just pointing out some facts, and to what ever they conclude to, is anyone's guess.
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I think it will be a female

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Female

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Female. But there have already been both of the other two, just not openly of course.

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True enough. FDR was in a wheelchair for years and 99% of America had no idea that he couldn't walk.
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I agree Calu!
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I don't know about an atheist president, but we probably have had a gay president, or at least a bi one. Even Abraham Lincoln was known for sharing his bed with a couple of men...
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I don't want to create an arguing s*** storm on ask right now but if you read many books or autobiographies by and on different presidents you'll see some pretty identifiable signs.
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The US might have already had an atheist or gay President before, just not someone who would publicly admit it.

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A Lesbian Atheist!

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None. It will forever be old guys

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I wouldn't call President Obama "old." Or JFK. He was only 43 when he took office. That's not really "old".
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lol the same old same old
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"Old" is above 20
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Well, since you have to be at least 35 to be President, then yeah, I guess they'd all be considered "old".
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This country would elect a goat if it promised to make people's problems go away

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Yeah, but it'd have to be a really photogenic goat. I mean, like the George Clooney of goats.
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As I sit hear in a hospital waiting room waiting to see someone recovering from back surgery, their back damaged from years of hard physical work. I'm listening to a family and friends debate different ways to milk the system. I really don't think looks will matter. This is why I don't carry a gun. People like these just about put me over the top. Oh yeah it sounds like some of them just got back from a vacation in Mexico. But are complaining because their AFDC check arrived late
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I hear ya Pete. I see that a lot, too.
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It really bothers me
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We've already had 2 female presidents, Roslyn Carter and Hillary Clinton.

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Not on this planet we haven't.
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Aren't you cute! What about Nancy Reagan's astrologist? Does she count?
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Nancy didn't try to run the show, the astrologist thing was kinda weird though. Hey that rhymed!
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I'm not sure she didn't take over when President Reagan developed Alzheimer's, do you know about that?
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Tony,I agree
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He wasn't diagnosed until the mid-90's
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Just because he wasn't diagnosed til the 90s doesn't mean he didn't have Alzheimers in the 80s.
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Don't forget Edith Wilson
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Roslyn carter??
Man, you're desperate.
Nancy had the bigger reputation for interfering.
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Yeah I should've said AMY Carter haha
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Roslyn even insisted on attending Cabinet meetings; I think she was the worst ever!
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My prediction would be female, atheist, then gay. It's hard to tell about atheist and gay because they both get a lot of hate in this country, unfortunately.

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But female is something that's obvious. Atheism and homosexuality can both be hidden.
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Very true, but I thought we were talking about open beliefs or genders(genders are usually obvious by design lol).
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Well... gender is usually obvious. lol
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the hatred of gays is obvious! why on earth would you like them its so immorall
and the hatred of Athiests is more critisized by me but I still think its foolish
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In what way(s) is it immoral?
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Do you choose who you are attracted to? I certainly don't! I have natural inclinations that lead me to prefer skinny women with large breasts and a nice butt.

Because being gay or straight is linked to their genetic makeup, they are attracted to people of the same sex. They have natural inclinations different from yours.

They respond to their inclinations in the same way that you do.

Taking into consideration that they are acting in the same way you are, how is it immoral?
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aquaman - so, you must obviously oppose letting sterile heterosexuals marry. Right?
You must obviously oppose letting heterosexual women who are past the age of menopause marry. Right?
In fact, once a woman reaches menopause, even if she's already married, her marriage is nullified by her non-fertile condition. Right?
You must obviously oppose allowing heterosexuals who are injured or paralyzed and thus unable to procreate get married. Right.
If the sole defining characteristic, and purpose, of marriage is that the couple be able to breed, then you must oppose allowing any of these people to get, or even to STAY married. Clearly.
Oh! Wait!
I almost forgot. We live in the United States of America!
Our laws are based on the Constitution, NOT the bible.
Our laws are derived from a mandate of the masses, not from some ancient, middle-eastern, goatherders, zombie-worshipping, animal-sacrificing sun-god cult.
The United States is not a theocracy. You're free to believe whatever fairy tales you want, but the Establishment Clause of the United States Constitution says it is not only illegal, it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL for you to even TRY to impose your religious beliefs or adherence to your religious dogma on the rest of us.
So....
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Again sorry this response is late: I admit i said my statement slightly wrong. It is ok to "be gay" as long as you do not act sexually on that position. however i think is perfectly ok to marry whenever you want no matter how old you are(as long as it is a legal age in your state), what period you are in, what state of health you are in, etc. as long as you are male and female as god designed it. there are plenty of people who get married and are able to have kids but never do. thats ok. by the wway wickedpissah i agree with your name you are a piss ant. i say this because not only does that constitutional law say that you cant push a faith on someone it also says(or at least a related one) that you may not diss, hate on, deny any one elses faith which im pretty sure was your entiresecond to last paragraph. PS your second to last paragragh in my opinion was completely untrue and you should either do more research or dont exaderate even for a point
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And yet... you insist on using your religious faith to deny an entire category of American citizens the same equal rights that you take for granted based, not on any legal standing, but based solely upon your religious beliefs.
THAT is "pushing your beliefs" on someone.
THAT is Unconstitutional.
But.... since you can't seem to have a reasonable debate without resorting to juvenile ad-hominem attacks ("piss ant"), I think this discussion is over.
Good night.
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what ever, clueless
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Again with the juvenile personal attacks.
Is that all you're capable of?
Are you completely incapable of a reasonable discussion?
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kilgoretrout: it is immorall to have sexual atractions to someone of the same gender because it is against the way and nature of the life cycle. sex was designed for reproduction of humans. therefore it is wrong to have sex w/ the same gender because it is for pleasure. it is, for that matter, also wrong to have an abortion for the same immorral reasons. but that is a whole nother argument id rather not have.
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Wait. You just said "sex was designed for reproduction of humans."
But in your previous comment you said "there are plenty of people who get married and who are able to have kids but never do."
So, which is it?
Why is it okay for two heterosexuals to get married and have sex without having kids but it's supposedly not okay for two homosexuals to do the exact same thing?
The result is exactly the same: no kids.
That's just plain old fashioned discrimination.
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Also, you see homosexuality in nature(about 1,500 documented species).

The argument that it is wrong because it isn't natural is not a good argument.

Do you see animals cooking their food or eating with silverware in nature? God gave you two hands, so if you eat with silverware you are doing something immoral.
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wickedpissah: sex IS designed for the reproduction of humans! When i said that two heterosexuals could get married and never have kids i meant that they stay virgins not use condoms and contraceptives! so they have NO sex and NO kids!

KilgoreTrout: We are not animals. We were not designed to be exactly like like a seahorse for example. that idea is upsurde. I never meant to say that all God's creatures had to be the same. He designed humans to be intelligent. So since a seahorse male lays and cares for the eggs then should we too? NO! Point being that we are not like everything else in this world. That is not what I meant by nature. I meant nature of the HUMAN life cycle not a seahorse or any thing else. besides didn't you say this discussion was over? like three days ago?
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aquaman - a marriage is not valid until it has been consumated.
So, if two heterosexuals get married and stay virgins (because they don't want kids), then guess what buddy....
THEY'RE NOT MARRIED.
Ooops.
Sorry.
Thank for playing, though.
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this is going to shock you but in my faith(Catholicism) you don't have to be consummated. there are plenty of people in this world who are married and have never had sex. are you telling me that none of them have true marraiges? it is perfectly ok to get married and not have kids. many people make there decision in life. not to mention that if you are claiming that gays should be allowwed to get married then wouldn't that imply that you are wrong since they can't have kids?
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I said I was done with a discussion on another question, I think.

Here is the definition of "Animal" that I pulled from the Merriam- Webster website:

"any of a kingdom (Animalia) of living things including many-celled organisms and often many of the single-celled ones (as protozoans) that typically differ from plants in having cells without cellulose walls, in lacking chlorophyll and the capacity for photosynthesis, in requiring more complex food materials (as proteins), in being organized to a greater degree of complexity, and in having the capacity for spontaneous movement and rapid motor responses to stimulation"

This definition clearly shows that humans are, in fact, animals.
All animals have different traits. Our primary trait is superior intelligence and tool-making.
Other animals have traits that are better than ours.(Eagles have much better eye development than humans.)

In regards to homosexuality in humans, it is not surprising to see it when it is documented in many other species. Homosexuality is a genetic trait. I don't believe there is a "gay gene", but it is a side effect of certain genes. There are other hypotheses that discuss the roots of homosexuality. An example of that would be saying homosexuality is epigenetic, which relates to hormones effecting the DNA while in the womb.

I will also say that there is possibly an environmental factor as well.

So if humans are designed by "God" and made gay, would they not be blameless for being what they were made to be?
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Female president :)!!

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USA already got an atheist President.

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Which one?
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Obama
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Wrong
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Justin - it seems that you have been misinformed. President Obama is a christian.
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thats what he wants you to believe
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Obama has just a chance of being a Christian as any other president. You don't really have a valid reason to single him out, Justin.
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And Justin has info the rest of us don't have access to? Isn't that special.
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the last thing im going to say on this, is im not the only one who thinks this.
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Popularity doesn't make an idea correct.
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Justin - just an fyi, but counting all the different voices in your head as different people, well, that doesn't count.
You still just count as one.
Sorry.
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He's a Muslim
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Where's your proof?
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Isn't it kind of weird that none of the past presidents were accused of being Muslims, or not having been born in the US? And how all those presidents have something in common that they don't have in common with Obama? Hmmm.....
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Oh MsStina. Haven't you heard? Republicans don't believe in "proof".
They just say whatever Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck tell them to say.
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if obamas a christian whats with the HHS mandate?
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080504184048AAMgxBR
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http://gregoryccochran.com/2012/09/06/islam-and-abortion-are-muslims-pro-life/
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Pro life is not held exclusively for Christians. That SHOULD be a matter of liberal vs conservative, not this religion vs that religion. You should know that religion is not supposed to control our government. Besides, Christianity is so dominant in the US that I don't understand why you people are so greedy for more.
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What does his HHS mandate have to do with his religion?
Mitt Romney was a pro-choice abortion supporter and he was a Mormon (which I think is considered a kind of christian).
Republican Presidents Nixon (Quaker), Ford (Christian), Reagan (christian), Bush Sr (christian), and Bush Jr (christian) all refused or failed to overturn Roe v Wade.
Heck, California Governor Ronald Reagan legalized abortion in his state in 1967! Six years before Roe v Wade.
So.... what does the abortion requirement have to do with anything?
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i know this reply is late but i think mormons believe that you should listen to what ever the government says. ead The Boy Who Dared by Susan Cambell Bartoletti
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How about a happy lady President and an agnostic VP?

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It could happen.
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eventually we will get all three, when voters vote on the issues, not on gender or their personal lives...;-)

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I would say an atheist president.

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Not gonna happen
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in another 20-40 years it will. in fact, the biggest presidential debate will be between the gay candidate and the atheist candidate. I can actually see that happening.
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I don't see it happening any time soon. Too many uninformed people.
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yeah 40 years isn't really that soon though. and itll take a while. but im certain that's going to be the biggest debate of the century.
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Hi, I'm Toxicity. I'm gonna be president: I'm female, an atheist, and let's just say I'm not into men. Hope I win!

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Lol, So whats your plan for America!:)
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I'm in for... Female, Gay, Atheist in that order... Although it's possible that one person could be all three.. Lol

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Female. Maybe it would be better

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I was going to say we've probably had two out of three already, but crotrobot beat me to it with the same concept and went one step beyond.

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Yeah he's good at that! Haha! Damn Crow! :-)
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It'll be a woman. Religion trumps everything in American right now. There is no way that religious fanatics (well, actually they don't even have to be fanatics) will allow an atheist on board until several generations later. Gay is not even favorable yet b/c of the whole spew of family values... so that leaves us with a woman. Either way, the ultra conservative religious nuts would rather have none of the 3, but it'll start with a woman.

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1. female
2. gay
3. atheist

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Yup, in that order
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How do you know we haven't already had the atheist and the gay?

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Lol I think we have...
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And we probably have, but not "out" on any of the cases
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A female since we already have had the last two.

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Who?
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Ha ha
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Who?
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Lincoln and Jefferson according to rumors. We can't really know for sure though, since both of them denied it.
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Lol
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bigred- it sounds like your fantasies are getting a bit out of hand.
But it's funny you should mention rumors, because I heard that same rumor about you.
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Female, but what we should have is a Native American president.

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Hard to say. I think it's more likely we'll see a female president, but, this is America. Anything is possible.

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Definitely a woman. Let's hope the next three dozen are women. It's time we all tap this vital resource. Atheists know their mind, we've had them already. Gay dudes, we've had them, too. But if the last two keep their mouths shut, who's gonna know? Kiss a girl and say Amen, and that's it.

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A female president definitely. The amount of religous people is.. well a good majority of the US And also a good majority of the people against gays.

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Female!

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We've already had an Atheist president

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Atheist probably but next likely female.
Hopefully we will NEVER get a gay president!!!

Kipple14: Who? Obama?

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Don't like gay people, eh?
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yeah.............................................................................................................................................................................NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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... umNO!!
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Well I hear Lincoln might have been gay. And according to Larry Synclare on YouTube Obama is too.

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I hope neither...

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Why?
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I am prejudiced against gays and atheists, and I don't see a female politician who I deem worthy of the job, well besides condoleeza rice
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Well. At least you admit your prejudices.
I suppose that's better than people who say things like "I'm not racist, but.....".
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I try not to lie, and I know it is wrong to think that, but I just can't stop thinking it.
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Most of the major leaders are Atheist but they attend church because it puts up a good front and is commonly accepted. Any religion they have is greed and the lust for power. Others may have been homosexual but if the media suspected they would keep it quiet, consider J. Edgar Hoover former head of the FBI and many who have had outside sexual interests that the media knew about but never told anyone publicly. While there has been no elected woman Presidents there were some that ran the country along with key aides when their husbands could not or would not do the job. I am sure sooner or later we will have an openly elected female President and they will do no better or worst than any of the others.

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Female President = New Age. Gay President = Assassination. Atheist President = The end of the world.

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Would you care to explain your answer at all?
Are you hoping that a gay President would be assassinated, or are you saying that that would be a tragic likelihood?
And how exactly would an atheist President be the end of the world?
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There's nothing wrong with atheism. I don't see why one atheist would end the world. I'm an atheist, just because I don't follow a religion or believe in a god, doesn't mean I'm some evil person that's trying to take over the world. Sheesh.
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We already have an ungodly president.

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female first, then atheist then gay

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I would like to say one of the above, but I think it's probably going to stay how it is. Only male. :(

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