I HAD them a looooong time ago. They hurt, while being pierced. It is a hollow needle that takes the flesh out as it pierces. Also the recovery time is long. Not for nothing but your breasts are always brushing up against your clothes, shirt, bra etc. so the piercings can get agitated. You have to clean them constantly in the beginning, and should use the bar instead of the ring until it heals. I had to take them out for a chest xray during a company physical and couldn't get them back in. That was the end of my piercings..