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Christopher Dorner, hero or criminal?

Former LAPD officer.

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I am undecided that either title fits. I feel he is someone who didn't fall through the cracks but was pushed through. If they thought he was so unstable they had armed guards at his firing, don't you think there should have been some kind of mental health intervention before it got to that point?

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Criminal he killed people duh!!!!!!!!

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Suzie17
You sound like an intellect.
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criminal, he killed 4

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I agree
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Criminal.

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They said that LAPD was going to reinvestigate why he was fired. Let's wait until that's published before jumping to conclusions.

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Murderer, doesn't matter why, that young woman was innocent.the cops he killed were also, presumably innocent.people have to die because he lost a job.who does, or did he think he was.?
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We won't know until it is a completed investigation. Would love to agree with all of it After I have all the information.
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crimminal. he did it for revenge.

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Yes ma'am
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he WAS a hero (former LAPD and military)but now a criminal. as much I would like to see him dead, I want his side of the story.

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He is dead, but not before killing one last officer.
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they are still trying to confirm the burnt body in the cabin.
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When he killed that first young woman, he lost all credibility , regardless why he was fired.
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very true^
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Read your profile and see you are going in the Marines . My oldest son has been in 25 years . He's coming home in March until he retires next year , but he's going to be a D.I. till he retires . He's a Chief Master Gunnery Sergeant ! Hope you don't get him !
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an E-9 huh? you should tell him to let me have ten extra mins at the chow hall! haha! D.I at parris island?
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check out my last question, wanna know what you think.
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Criminal, he had no reason to take a life. If he was wrongfully terminated there is legal ways to get it resolved.

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Yup
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Sad huh?
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Suzie17

Psychopathic murder

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just another excuse for liberals to ban guns. the 23 children stabbed to death same day as New Town barely made a notice.or the two elderly women shot by police delivering news papers.
he's no hero. just another wako to blame societies problems on.
no one likes a dirty cop and making false staements an example of a convict at all costs legal system. privately owned jails don't make money empty.

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Had he not killed innocent civilians I might have felt some sympathy for his cause. As it stands he's a criminal, but he has brought attention (again) to an on going issue regarding the LAPD and LEO's in general.

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He was staying right across the street from the command post and they did not know. They aren't even confirming the body in the burned out cabin is him yet. They are being extra cautious just in case it isn't him.
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I heard it is a female body?? If it's him, then we gave him more credit then he deserved in our other conversation.
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They aren't confirming anything yet. They had the entire mountain on lockdown yesterday. It may be a few days before we know.
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He's a hero to some a criminal to others but if cops keep covering things up there will be more like him

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Those people he's a hero to,scare the hell out of me.
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Living in the area where this all took place.......CRIMINAL-MURDERER-THIEF
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He killed innocent people and endangered the lives of countless others to prove a point.
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Our tax dollars are paying for all of this as well.
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Did it bring attention to police corruption? Sure it did. However, this was totally overshadowed by his vicious acts.
Will it be an effective way to combat police corruption? Absolutely not.
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No one is supporting what Dorner did.

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I agree, except he has a fan club. Crazy isn't it!
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He doesn't have one around where I live (LA County). Everyone that hated the police before still hates them and everyone who did not, has not change their minds.
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Doesn't every "kilIer" have a fan club?
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Because he killed innocent people, he is a criminal. That being said, it was obvious he had Mental Health issues prior to his termination from the LA Police Department. He may very well have been suffering from PTSD, from his Service to our Country.
I am glad though that the LA police Department's treatment of employees is being looked at again and discussions of Psychological Ability to perform the job are being evaluated.
As for the Families of his victims, my heart goes out to them.

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While Dorner did serve in the military and was stationed for a time in the Middle East, he was never in a combat situation. He said he did suffer some kind of head trauma, but it is obvious by his actions that he knew exactly what he wanted to do, and then set about doing it. Sorry. No sympathy for this killer.
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I read his manifesto. He knew what he was doing.
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I have no sympathy for him. What I have is questions about the complicity of the LAPD. When fired, they told him with 2 armed Deputies, for fear he would explode. Why wasn't he evaluated for Mental Health fitness prior to hiring and during termination proceedings!?
My sympathy is with his victims and their families. Along with all the people living in the area, he terrorized while on the run.
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Murderer

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How could he possibly be a hero, he killed innocent people, including cops, cops are people, and most of them are good people. Can't even imagine a debate here. "Mercy"!
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Criminal. Wondering why you ask?

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Because he has (had) a fan club. Insanity!
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You are kidding me. Wow.
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That's what I said too haha
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Really?? Smh
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He said he went on the rampage because his good name had been besmirched, and a man is nothing without his name. Well, he certainly made a name for himself, so I guess he is somebody now. A dead somebody, but somebody. From his actions over the last several days, he has proven that the LAPD got it right when they let him go. So my final answer: He is a dead criminal a--hole who even failed at waging the war he said he would.

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Yup! Sure hope the body they pulled out is him.
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Spot on! Great answer!
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Thanks, Tony.

@Ynp: I kept thinking the fire and gun shot could have all been a ruse he used to escape via some tunnel he built over the last couple of years, and drew the LAPD to it during the case. But I think I was giving this jerk too much credit. I don't think he was as amazing as he thought he was, and there are just too many other reasons to think that it couldn't have happened that way. But you're right. I hope it actually is him.
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Actually, I thought he was too smart to have even been on the mountain when his original truck was on fire. No, he was across the street from the command post!
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Victim of racism? Vigilante in search of street justice? Folk hero?
No. Just another poor mental case paranoid with delusions and elements of narcissism. There was only one way his saga could end, it had tragedy written in large letters on the title.

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Yeah it's too bad the nut had to take others with him.
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Is that the guy that they're trying to catch? Killed all those cops?? Murder is murder, the end. You're definitely not a hero if you killed people for revenge because of something happening to you. ;o

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How many YouTube videos of Police perpetrating criminal acts against men, women and children do we need to witness before we admit that something's SERIOUSLY wrong?

Where there's smoke, there's fire...

Do I agree with Mr. Dorner? No. But I sure as hell would like some answers and accountability for what happened and WHY.

We take anti-bullying seriously hoping to keep our kids safe... How do we keep this from happening again?

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Crispy criminal...

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Formerly a hero, at one time, as I consider anyone to be who willingly places himself in harm's way to protect others. He began as a hero, and tragically sunk to the level of the thugs and lowlifes he swore an oath to protect us from. There is no greater shame.

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Excellent answer, as always
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Thanks. You and the beautiful Mrs. 737 have V-day plans?
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Freakin' lunatic!

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both. he may have killed 4 people, but he was a solider, and a police man. i'm not saying what dorner did was a good thing, I'm just looking at both ends of his life here

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No place for hero in this story
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he did more good than bad. he fought to protect this country, and he kept the streets of LA safe for several years. killing 4 people may very well be a crime, but he saved more than he killed. therefore, he is both a hero and a criminal
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Definately not a hero. But I think his case could have been handled better by the LAPD, so they bare quite a bit of the blame for him going over the edge. I would love to know the whole truth about this story, but I don't think any story could make him a true hero.

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criminal

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Ahem.

In some peoples eyes a hero. In some a villain. You got to understand people do things for a reason. I mean John Wilkes booth thought killing Lincoln was for God. He was wrong. And I'm not saying Christopher Dorner did the right thing. I just don't think people should judge so quickly. (:

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First hero then criminal

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