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Does the thought of God seeing & knowing everything bring you comfort or distress?

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TheHarem

Knowing that God is always with me brings me great peace.

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Suzie17
Me too! Good morning Harem Parem, you were up late last night! How's the neck?
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so true
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TheHarem
Good morning Suzie poozie....chucke.
I wasn't up too late, I don't think. The pain meds really seem to help. Of, course I'm not doing somersaults yet.........but all in good time. HeeHaw!
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No summersaults?? Bummer! Haha, glad you're doing better. Mmmm... Pills good , pain bad! Hahaha!
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TheHarem
Hi Strawberry..........thankyou. :)
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Suzie.......you're so funny. :)
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What?
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Haha, jk!
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Amen
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amen!
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Amen, thankyou. :)
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Big hug and welcome back from this little cutie....


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Shalom, Happy Sabbath.
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TheHarem
Thankyou so kindly. :)
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Hello, Lady Harem. I know what you mean. That warmth and a heart full of love. There is nothing like it.
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Hi Punk.....you say it so beautifully. I hope you are able to get some nightly zzzzzzz's lately. Those nights when I can't sleep and it's 2 or 3 am, I wonder if you and Shay are awake too. But then I chuckle because you both are on totally different time zones and like a day ahead of me. Lol
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Yeh, Shay & I are 3 hrs apart. It feels like you and are a whole world away, H! But, you A & comms are worth the wait. You are very inspiring.
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Hi Jan, its great to see you again. I hope you're feeling better. :-)
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Hi Shay....Thankyou. I'm getting stronger every day. Yippie!
It's so good to "see" you. It's been awhile. I haven't been on Ask too much because of the surgery. But I try to touch base if I can. Hope you are doing great. :)
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Punk.....you are so kind and much too humble when it comes to yourself. :)
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Well, I'm not anything much. I just like to make people happy. And I care about others. It makes it worthwhile.
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No!

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Brings me comfort.
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Hahaha!!! Maybe you shouldn't be so quick with your arrogant "NO's"...
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I got the opposite. I think he's saying "No", and then in comments, he specified that his answer of "No" was to whether it brought him comfort.

No?
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He had my first comment removed when I asked if God didn't bring Jim comfort. Then put that there haha!
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Both :)

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No. why would it? He's God, He loves us all very much no matter what :)

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To know that he sees our problems and can help us through them, comforts me.

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hmmm , distress ..
but anyway i am a theist

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Never really think about it.

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He can't be watching 7 billion people ALL the time.......I just try to sneak around in the shadows.....if there really is only one God, then does he only watch over "Christians"?.....I mean, does he concern himself with people that don't believe in him??

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If He created all.. He can see all.. Just waiting for any and all to say... If you are real... Prove it to me personally!!!
Have a great day Nafta..
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You bet He concerns Himself with people that don't believe in Him! He loves us ALL!
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It most definitely brings me great peace, joy and comfort. To know that He, the Creator of all things, cares so much that He numbers the hairs on my head, is to know I am never alone and can always take comfort in His love. But, before I came to accept Him for who He is, what He has done for us and how much He loves us, it used to bring me distress.

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Suzie17

I have great peace, comfort and joy knowing He sees all and is in charge.

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Top of the morning to ya :)
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You too!! Feeling better?
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Much better than 2 weeks ago, definitely. The recovery time after this surgery is 4-6 weeks and I'm just 2 weeks into it. So I'm pretty optimistic. Sorry about your back pain. I wish you could have surgery to fix it. Do you have much pain daily with it?
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morning dear
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Good morning all!
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Well it's after noon here now.
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Why should I feel discouraged, why should the shadows come,
Why should my heart be lonely, and long for heaven and home,
When Jesus is my portion? My constant friend is He:
I sing because I'm happy,
I sing because I'm free,
For His eye is on the sparrow,
And I know He watches me.
"Let not your heart be troubled," His tender word I hear,
And resting on His goodness, I lose my doubts and fears;
Though by the path He leadeth, but one step I may see;
Civilla D. Martin,

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Very nice! Good morning Strawberry!!
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TheHarem
That is beautiful. :)
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It is. I never heard it before. Copying it.
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His Eye is On the Sparrow. I LOVE that song! (Even had it sung at my husb. funeral!). Really beautiful!
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MarSch....I'm so sorry for the loss of your beloved husband.
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Comfort. If it brings you discomfort that he watches, maybe you're doing something you know is wrong or have a guilty conscience.

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Yup haha!
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This answer reminds me of an old "Deep Thoughts with Jack Handy"

When my child asks me why it rains, sometimes I think it's cute to say "God is crying." And if my child asks me why God is crying, sometimes I think it's cute to say "Probably because of something you did..."
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Neither. I have not felt that since before I was atheist and it brought distress then to think I may blaspheme at any moment and lose my place in heaven from inforgivable sin.

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Mature believers must eventually have a coping mechanism for that. But the poor kids! It must be a steady source of constant torment. How sick.
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It was. I think the coping mechanism is total loss of brain function in certain areas. I remember distinctly how fear was so common and inner turmoil. It's truly a sadistic thing to do to a child and its no wonder I see so many young adults devoid of compassion- they were abused since day 1.
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Heck, I see it in my own kids. Their mother and their friends and teachers at Church are constantly telling them how important it is to believe without question, without evidence. Once they are a little older, I will talk to them, but for now I merely drop hints.
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Well it's kinda stressful knowing God will always know when I'm doing something wrong. But it makes me a better person knowing that too because I know God sees everyone sin I do so I try not to do a lot of things I know are wrong. However I do get comfort because I know he's there allowing me to be able to pray to him and always know he hears my prayer. He also is very forgiving of sins which comforts me because I know if I pray for forgiveness and try my hardest to not do the same sin again, he will forgive me.

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It is a comfort to know I can not get away with any sin therefore it encourages me to be faithful and true to God and know that I will be forgiven if I backslide.

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I think nothing of it. It reminds me of Shrek.

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Well, Why would it bring someone distress? It gives me peace because I know that He knows what s going on and He knows how to fix it. And I know He does. Why would it bring anyone distress?

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Little kids find the concept of Hell quite distressful.
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It would bring anyone distress, if there wasnt a way out, or if the way was as impossible as the jewish law (says so in the Bible itself) because according to the law, just one sin and you re condemned forever. No matter how hard we tried, we would never be safe. But its not about learning the laws of right and wrong and not doing it so God doesnt catch you in the act, because God always will. But its about loving Jesus. If you love Jesus, you wont do what he doesnt like. Hebrews 8:10. Gby
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Wow. It almost sounds like people were uncomfortable with Jewish regulations, and so made up a sunnier form of that religion.
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Not really, the thing with the jewish religion is they lost sense of what it meant. The law was for the sin to not be abundant, but when the sin was abundant anyway, then so was the grace. The thing is they thought they could justify themselves with animal sacrifices, so they went ahead and did wrong and sacrificed an animal after. But then, they are not justified for their desire to do wrong. And really, the animal sacrifice doesnt justify, it just makes up, kinda. But the Mesiah s sacrifice does justify because He was a perfect human. To be an equal value for the perfect human that ruined things (Adan). And for Adan being justified, his punishment (doom) is lifted, but then, people must accept the sacrifice Jesus did. If not, then the devil has legal right over them *Romans 8 gives more detail, and Hebrews 11, or Hebrews 12, and definetely 1st of John)
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Or....all of it is just the stories humans tell each other to make sense of a complicated world.
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That s an illogical thought. No one would just come up with that. And even if they did, no one would believe them, unless there were signs, like rods becoming snkes, or healing sickness with only the hands.

The truth is that we are still suppose to do what the jewish law says, only things we dont have to obey are making sacrifies for our sins, because Jesus made the perfect sacrifice, and we can eat any animal, because the Bible says that they are sanctified by prayer, also, noyt condemning anyone, and few other things. However, its harder bexcause we cant evn think of a person with lust, and we must love our enemy and return good for wrong. If anyone slaps, put the other cheek, and few other things, but when one has Jesus s love, it becomes easy, or t least as easy as going to work. Well, Gby
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The truth is, religious beliefs were not one person's idea, who then wrote it down in a Bible. The propensity to see an unseen hand is an unfortunate gift from our evolutionary heritage. Our ideas of gods came to us at night with the wandering stars and then the stories were well formed in a tribal mind before they were ever written down.
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People who listened to God wrote what He said to them and what He showed them in the Bible.
So, ancesters looked at the stars and without knowing that there was even an outter space, just thought that there was people who lived in heaven. And not just that, they thought that those people could help them and expected certain things from them, and not just that. But also were abl to se things that would happen in the future, and things that would have not been discovered until thousands of yers after, and not just that, but to make a complex book that would fit with the events that would happen and would carry great wisdom even beyond people from the future? I wouldnt believe that would be possible if it were humans by themselves, but if there is God and the devil, who deceives people from the truth and turns it into many unreal versions (that is why all religions seem to be that much alike) then I do believe its possible.
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God never spoke. Try as they might, nonexistent entities cannot make noise. No one's ever actually seen the future. Some are better at predicting outcomes, and they are labeled Seers or Soothsayers, but it's all bunk.

It's fine to believe what you will. You'll die and with your death, your efforts to proselytize will die with you. But what you do, and what people like you do is essentially play the part of your devil and really ruin a bunch of young minds to serve your selfish purposes. You deceive people from scientific truth and turn it into unreal explanations.
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God never spoke, yes He did.. You just didnt listen to Him but you knew what He said. And you didnt like it...

And what we do isnt ruin young minds, its actually save lives from eternity away from God, and if it wasnt so, then from depression, adictions, bad influences, etc. And its not selfish purposes, we gain nothing by that.

I dont deceive scientific proof, I question it. The rest happens by itself. The Bible says that there s notghing hidden that wont be manifested, or nothing kept that wont be known.
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There is no greater evil in the world than selling this religion as good when it is absolute poison. It's so poisonous and they do it to the children thinking its something good. So sad.
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Back when I was a believer, it was certainly a strange form of comfort. I think people can convince themselves that distress is actually comfort.

Not that inner peace is proof of anything, but I was never truly calm and at ease until I realized and admitted I was atheist.

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Not until I realized I was a giant talking eagle did I feel at peace.......
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Well, the Bible does say that its worse to be warm than to be cold. Says so in Apocalypse/ Revelation 3. Gby
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I keep seeing this "Gby". Good boy? Good-bye? Isn't the expression "luke-warm"? I think being comfortable and in a place with CentralAir isn't a bad thing. Then again, I kind of appreciate all the comforts science has brought us. I don't resent them for a ridiculous pipe-dream of a life to come.
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Well, Gby means God bles you. As for the expression, I m not sure. I was refering to Apocalypse/ Revelation 3, where it acuses a pastor of being warm, as in not doing things the way things should be done. We say one is warm when one doesnt do anything wrong, but doesnt pray, doesnt praise, doesnt read the Bible, or when one prays, praises and reads the Bible, but does wrong. Or when one prays, prqises and reads the Bible sometimes and does wrong sometimes. That s what we call warm. I mentioned it because you said you were agnostic trying to have christian discipline, but this is given by the love towards God. But it was better for nyou to stop trying than to stop living a lie. That way, maybe you could seek the truth. Not what people say, but we true christians have a happines. Whether it s noticeable or even if sometimes we ar in situations, but deeper than that, there is happiness. Its like when one things they are happy, but they feel empty inside, well, we christians may suffer like everyone else, but inside, we are always happy. That s somethinmg religious people (the people who do things only because they were raised or taught) dont have.
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I never said I was agnostic trying to have christian discipline. I did stop living a lie, when I became atheist. Christian discipline? Is that an oxy-moron?

I recognize the "God wants you hot or cold, not lukewarm" nonsense from an old episode of X-Files. heh. I've also heard it in Church. But not NEARLY as often as the prodigal son story, or the Flood story, or the oft-repeated whale story, or the repeated ad nauseam Sermon on the Mount. All stories, anyway.
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You said ''back when you were a believer'' so that means the discipline thing. Did you even understood that God was and is right next to you? Because He has always wanted you, not to know much, but to feel much. Not so you would live an illusion (although, people who are christian do have a more organized life stylke than other people who just do sin and dont care, who go to bars or dancing or dont love their enemies or etc) but because He wants a relationship with you. You seek proof, but if you dont put the water in the freezer, you will never know it can be solid. You want to make anm experiment to see if God is real, well, you have to do things the way He wants. Not by mere teachings of men, He will teach you personally when you get to know Him personally. For that, you have to do things His way. The expoeriment has been made many times the right way and always gives the same result. But you have to do it the right way. According to the Biblke and not the religion. I could be your tutor. That s valid in Jesus s terms.
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I was devout.
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Well,... depends on the way you were devout... if it came trully and purely from the heart... and what were you devout to.... God or religion, teachings, people, anything else...
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I had all the same reactions you just had. I just no longer have them.
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Not really, you only think you did. But when you feel to say, do, not say or not do, and the feeling is always the same and the result is always the same. Blessing. For example, I found 5 bucks in the same place next to the street where I lost them 3 hours after I lost them. No one took them, they didnt flew away with the wind and they didnt go down the drain that is whre I found them. Another, I once was gonna leave, but I stayed and for that, I got a free lunch. I once went to Wendys and there had been a confusion. I got a free soda. I told them I didnt ask for soda, but they said I either took it or threw it away. Other times, I ve one things when God told me to not do it and I ve ended up in trouble. You probably would say its ''luck'' or coinidence for those who dont like the word luck, but things so coincident happening everyday is not possible. Besides much less possible things happening. I havent had an impossible event that I remember, except when I was 3 years old, a centipede bit me. I didnt even get sick.

Plus, when you ve lived with the devil in you and you ve managed to get out, you know.
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Really really. You only think you know I didn't. I'm not saying that by moving beyond belief I'm any "better" than you. I have plenty of misconceptions of my own.

In your ramblings, you mentioned that you think I would say those times you mentioned were "luck". I wanted you to know that this is not at all what I think. I think that certain times stand out in your mind, and the times when things went your way have stuck the most. The times you've lost money and failed to find it, or didn't get a free lunch even though you stayed, or ate at Wendy's without being offered a free soda, or you've neglected to wonder whether God's telling you not to do something and you've done it anyway, and you end up in trouble sometimes and end up escaping sometimes...

I'm sorry they convinced you that you were living with the devil in you. They really shouldn't have pulled that. But if you feel relieved having gotten out, that's wonderful. You don't have to go door to door shouting about the mundane events you feel are Breaking News.
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Noveltman: Ok, well, we dont know what you felt and if it was the same that I felt. I still doubt it was.

Well, I dont expect these things to happen daily, but lately, at least once every two weeks, something that has to do happens. The rest of the time, other things happen. One thing is certain. I didnt get as much occasions like those before I was a true christian, and it doesnt happen to many people as much as it happens to me. And you reminded me when you said about the mney. That time I found the 5 dollars, I really needed them because I had no money and I had to take the bus home.

Similarly, it seems every time I have a big problem, I just pray and leave it in the hands of God, and most times, you would say it solves on its own, I say God takes care of it. Other times, God guides me towards the solution, but that would be like less than 65% of the times. Still everyone has their own ways. God is that way with me, even if sometimes I gotta tolerate things that I really dont want to, or that are really hard to tolerate. But these are not the problems God solves, ometimes its part of that. Anyway, its kinda complicated.
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No one convinced me that I lived with the devil. I realized it myself after I became a christian. Most people find it hard to believe, and I mean even christians. Most people never even think that until I tel them. Anyone would say that by the way it seemed, I was just a rebel complicated teen. But how it felt was much different. I was many times close to doing things I would regret and wouldve affected my life. I couldve gone to jail, or a mental hospital. Maybe I wouldnt be alive. No, not all crazyness are demons, but that doesnt mean all crazyness are not demons. In my case it was demons. Not a demon, many demons. And they gave me something. I was the best in class. Physically and academicly. I was much stronger, not just stronger, much stronger than anyone else, also was very smart. Everyone came to me to explain things to them about the class. Sometimes, I could even affect the probability of things happening. I used that a lot in sports. Guys were playing basketball, suddenly they would begin failing the throws. Bouncing the ball and I just looked at them and even if they didnt see me, most of the time they didnt, but it semed to be like the ball just went off their hands. You know how people go and do Reiki, well, kinda like that. But no one liked me because I was too twisted.
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I know I sound crazy right now, but its all true. Infact, I had all what Romans 1 said and even more. Basically all the mental disorders and the worst I got was a pill. A pill that supossedly didnt do anything. The dose was for people much minor than me. I was suppose to get like 15 miligrams, but I got two. How is it possible that someone as crazy as I was stayed out of the mental hospital even when I went to the psyquiatrist? I had a disipline that God gave me that kept me out of trouble. No mattr how many times I wanted to do things a psycho does, I never did, and I wanted to, more than a thirsty person wants to drink water. I know I sound crazy, and I know somethings sound to have other explanations, but that s what people here thought and they were seing it. But non of them was ever able to do anything about it. No one noticed how much more there was to it than what they thought. I know it seems there are other ways, but those other ways have certain patterns that didnt apply to me. I know what I am trying to project to you seems unbelievable and untrue to you, but it is true.
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I know I had demons and I know the powers they gave me. I know it was demons and not anything else. You cannot know because you didnt experience it. And I could say I see something blue and you say that its purple, but I see it clear blue and no purple at all. There are so many things that cannot be known until lived. I know I tell you things and you imagen what s most posible, but it was different, and I know how different, but its harder to explain than how the universe works.
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You're Matilda. Awesome.
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Matilda?
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Yeah, I got kids. It's still a pretty good movie. Also an excellent book by Roald Dahl.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxF0Hyqb2y0

It's funny, I tend to click on links once I find them, and I usually end up watching. This trailer had several scenes that weren't even in the film.
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Not as strong as Matilda, its like a lucky charm, but really works. But its not worthit. ''Luck'' (because its a bit stronger, like enough to cause a light breeze or to make a clowdy day or sunny day, 4 out of 5 times I wanted to change the day from clowdy to sunny, or from sunny to cloudy, I could, and its not the way I see it because here, rain has patterns. I remember that during the time I was changing weather, the reporter was half the times wrong and the other half of the times was a 50% chance of rain) plus physical and mental enhancement, but for the luck, it takes energy, and the enhancements, physical makes you too energetic and mental makes you unable to control your thoughts sometimes)
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You know what they mean when there is a 50% chance of rain? It means that in the past, in the entire time they've been keeping records, when conditions were similar to the way it is now, it rained 1/2 the time.

This is why weathermen are increasingly more accurate in their predictions. Not only has their monitoring equipment increased in accuracy, but the bank of past occurrences they have to draw from keeps getting larger and larger.

The weatherman no longer predicts the weather. Complicated software that analyzes past data predicts the weather. And since that involves numbers, computers will forever be more able to do so. (They are incredibly good at precisely analyzing numbers...)
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Both. He gives comfort in the time if trouble. Distress comes when you know you are doing something wrong and no one knows about it. God is all-knowing.

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God says in Qur'an:
Knows he not that Allah does see (what he does)?
We are on front of one of the Verses of the Koran where it raising the insured on the watch and the feeling that God is watching our deeds and our words and that God is behind everything in this vast universe and no matter what you do where you are from God?!

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For me, having God watch over me is so comforting. I feel safe, secure and loved. I have faith that when I am in trouble (which is frequently, lol!) or sad, He is there to hold me up. God knows I am human and that I will make mistakes. All the trying and battling I do to be a better person would not be possible if it weren't for the Heavenly Father. May He bless us all, Amen.

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WOW, I'll accept that blessing, thank you. ;-)
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You know I think exactly the same about you, now & 4 eva. BFF
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Same 100,000,000,000 times over.
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Do you think we will ever meet in this life? I know we certainly will when God permits. But, I wanna have a beer with ya! lol!
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I hope so.
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Man, you can move fast when you wanna. As soon as I fin answering ur comms I get your emails, lol! Which one U haven, green or white? LOL!
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I still don't get the green or white. lol
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Comfort of course.

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4eva & eva.
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