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ok 3 questions. 1. how is jesus gods son? this is the main reason im not a christian. 2. whats the difference between all 3 stages, i think its something like god, the holy spirit, and son? what do they mean? 3. in genesis ch 1. it sais god told men to multiple, but then in ch 2. it sais god made men out of dust then. so whats with that?

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Mythology can be confusing because there is no requirement for it to be based on evidence or logic.

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I've spoken with a lot of devout people who really don't value evidence nor logic. I don't even think they value the benefit of valuing anything.
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Faith ( delusion ) trumps all.
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Novelty- that is one of the strongest statements I've heard in a while and I know just what you mean too. Very good observation.
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Try going to www.jw.org for answers based on what the bible says. You have good questions and deserve answers. Best wishes to you!

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For Jewish people, we do not believe Jesus is the son of G-d.

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The three stages are God the Father,God the Son,and God the Holy Spirit.The great mystery of the doctrine is that all three are the same entity.God made man and THEN he told him to multiply.Thats why he added woman.

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first, Jesus Christ is God's son, very true, but God came down as a human being but remember God can multiply and be in different places at the same place so in reality wen Jesus prayed he did pray but to himself on the cross... 2 the difference between The father, the son, and the holy spirit is that back to what I said before God can be in multiple places but in this case think of it as a Father role the Father of the house is a Dad,a husband and a worker.... 3 Jesus said let us multiply but he made us before we were born in heaven so he made us out of dust then we came,found a girl or a guy, and of course I'm sure u know the rest I hope this helped

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Why would god sacrifice himself to himself? How is that a sacrifice at all?
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Jesus Christ is the son of G-d? You are entitled to your beliefs and with
all due respect, those of other faiths are entitled to their own.
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1. I honestly don't even know how to answer this question. I think it has to do with the holy spirit (representing God) putting the child inside Mary....
2. The three stages are called the "Holy Trinity", there's God (I'm going to assume you know who that is), there's the son (Jesus), and then there's the holy spirit, which I'm not entirely sure about.... I think it's supposed to be a part of God.
3. God made Adam and Eve out of dust, then told them to multiply. Only Adam and Eve were made by God of dust.

Hope this helps!

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Yah those are the hardest questions to answer. They require more faith than hard evidence. The last question about making man out of dust, God made man out of dust because to show how powerful he is and also because he chose to because there was nobody else there to multiply. And the woman was made out of the man's lungs to show that man is the head/the main part of relationships/marrige. After man and woman were made he told them to multiply, now that there were man and woman to do so.

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1. Immaculate Conception. Christians believe that God impregnated the female human Mary and she gave birth to Jesus without her ever really having sex. 2. The "holy trinity" are the 3 distinct personae of God (the father, the son, and the holy spirit - also "the substance", "the essense", and "the nature"). 3. I wouldn't take the bible too literally. It was written by many different people 30-300 years after Jesus died. Stories were selected (most left out - like the gospels - there are more than 50, but only 4 made it into the bible) and arranged in a format that suited the early church. Years later they were edited again by King James into the modern and most widely used "King James Edition" of the bible. Consider how information is lost, distorted, and simply made up in this age of the internet.... how much do you think you can believe from desert dwellers 2000 years ago?

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The Bible isn't any different than what it was back then. They have copies and they have done the reaserch.
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Contrary to the belief that the Bible is Gods word on Earth.... the original Bible was compiled sometime after 325AD from many different authors. Basically, Emperor Constantine became a Christian out of fear, after someone told him he was going to Hell. It was Constantine who arranged the "Council of Nicaea" which consisted of religious leaders and religious writings from all over the known world. They sat down to decide on a uniform Christian doctrine, because there were Christians all over the place that all had VERY different beliefs. One thing they decided on was that Jesus was not just a prophet, but the actual son of God. Another thing decided was the belief of "one true God", some still believed in more than one, as from previous religions from the Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, and Babylonians. Some believed that God was a female - life bringer - again - a throwback to ancient religions. That was tossed out the window - for naturally God is a man and he dominates over women. lol. This incarnation of the Bible may have remained unchanged for some time (I doubt it though). However, between 1604 and 1611, King James had the Bible translated into English as a response to 3 previously translated versions that apparently had many problems.

Some links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorized_King_James_Version

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Oh yeah, "be fruitful and multiply" mighty have been a necessity in ancient times to maintain human populations, but in this day and age we are faced with overpopulation and food and water shortages. People should quit multiplying!!!!!!!
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Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
From this passage the bible seems to be saying that it was the Holy Ghost that impregnated Mary.
2. The Holy Trinity; Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It is held that while they share three distinct forms that they one. If I understand the teaching correctly, I visualise My head and my heart and my hands, these are three different things and yet are they not also me? I think that in a similar way it is taught that The Holy Trinity is one and they are GOD.
3. Scientists have recenlty discovered that everything in the universe is made of dust. People, stones, planets and even the stars themselves all came from stardust. So it is true that we came from dust. But in the book of Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
I think the Lord is saying be productive and populate the world.

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Yes. At gen 1-28 he sais that. It was the sixth day, but it sais in gen ch2 god made man out of dust. How does he tell them to multiply of they werent made?
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And im asking you because you seem like you know the most. I just want an answer, im not trying to make you think against christianity
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In Genesis chapter one it shows that God created man
Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Later in chapter 2, it does show him making Adam but it doesnt say that he was the first man God made. It seems to me that he made other men before he made Adam. Later, when Cain kills Abel his brother, Cain is cast out. Genesis 4:15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whsoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken upon him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any find him kill him.
Genesis 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bore Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son E-noch.
Which I interpret this to mean there were other people in the world. But Adam and his offspring were God's people. Which set them apart in the eyes of the Lord. The difference between Jews and Gentiles.
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After all if Adam and eve were the only people, who did Cain fear might slay him? ANd where did Cain's wife come from? And who dwelt in the city that Cain built? I don't think Adam was the first man. But I think he was the first of the people who would later be called Hebrew.
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There is no logical explanation. There is a problem with the godhead concept, if Jesus and god are the same being then two issues of note arise.
One: God sent himself as a sacrifice to himself, this was needed in order for Christians to follow a new set of rules, rules changed by god from rules god had created for the Jews. So if true then god cannot be omniscient (all knowing) and also why would god consider a sacrifice of himself to be a sacrifice at all?
The other issue of note involves the suffering that so many Christians feel earns our gratitude, if Jesus is actually god then did he suffer? Does god feel pain? and if so, once again, why would it be needed?
This leaves Christians with two choices, continue to accept the godhead concept and try to rationalize these illogical problems as they have been for the last 1,600 years. OR. Recognize the polytheistic nature that logic demands, defy their 1st commandment, and worship both Jesus and god as two separate entities.

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1. God sent his son to die on the cross as a sacrifice fo our sins not for himself. 2. Jesus came to earth as a human body and does feel pain to show ppl that he was willing to go through the pain and suffering for us. To show he loves us enough to go through that and take care of our sins.
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As you said "sent his son to die....as a sacrifice..." So then it is two separate entities, not one. That would make your second statement logical, otherwise if they are one in the same it makes no sense.
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The Trinity Can Be Related To
How An Electrical Wire Works.
E a c h of the Other Wires
Inside Has It's O w n
Respective Assign-
meant; and, So It
Is With The
Trinity.




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Then you are still stuck with the questions, why would it be called a sacrifice if god sacrificed himself to himself? why would he demand/expect it? would he have suffered before and during the crucifixion if he were god? and if he was god, why would it be necessary to suffer?
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Oh Y e s, That Is
A King-Sized
Portion of
L o v e.
PTL.
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That doesn't make any sense Psalm, he was showing is love by sacrificing himself to himself and not suffering?
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I Prefer To Focus On The
Actual Sacrifice G o d
Made To Redeem
Man Back To
Himself.
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That's the question, what sacrifice? If the two are one then it was not a sacrifice, only theater. If they are separate then you worship two gods.
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Still doesn't address Cal's point of the Christian changing the rules (doctrines) from those given to the Jews to the ones introduced for Christianity.
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1 - Jesus is a fairy tale. A myth made up from evolution's brains that benefit greatly imagining a moving bush was a predator & not thinking it was the wind. Maybe there was a guy around year 0 named Jesus. & maybe people were convinced he fulfilled prophecies. That doesn't mean the Bible is true & doesn't mean the man JC was special.

2 - Early Christians had 2 reconcile the fact that Jews think God is indivisible. But they wanted this Jesus character 2 share God's magical properties. Holy Spirit (Ghost) changed definitions along with changing attitudes rushing along w/ zeitgeist. The vague idea of God did same.

3 - The Bible is a source of the myth discussed above. Note no one made the story up. You can't go back & find 1 who started it. It predates written language. By the time pen was used it had been an accepted tale 4 ages. It is filled with inconsistencies & contradictions; insurmountable historical & scientific inaccuracies. Don't blame preliterate ppl. They knew no better. They hadn't science. We CAN however blame ppl who have access to science & yet mentally abuse kids w/ rote methods so kids succumb. A greater % overcome in the end. Too many never do.

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Where do you even get the idea about all these things? First off we do know who wrote it and second the Bibe is proven to be the trueist book ever written, with no contridictions, not mistakes, nothing wrong whatsoever. And nothing ever changed from back then till now because they still have copies and have done the history. If your going to be telling ppl about bad things that they need in their life then plz do more research and be able to back yourself up or else your just putting lies in ppl's minds they don't need.
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Israel Finkelstein, chairman of the Archaeology Department at Tel Aviv University, with archaeology historian Neil Asher Silberman, has just published a book called "The Bible Unearthed: Archaeology's New Vision of Ancient Israel and the Origin of Its Sacred Text."
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"The Israelites were never in Egypt, did not wander in the desert, did not conquer the land [of Canaan] in a military campaign and did not pass it on to the twelve tribes of Israel. Perhaps even harder to swallow is the fact that the united kingdom of David and Solomon, described in the Bible as a regional power, was at most a small tribal kingdom."
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Rameses III overran Canaan and conquered it between 1280 and 1260 B.C. The Egyptian records give a list of all the tribes inhabiting it. The children of Israel-- the Hebrews--
WERE NOT THERE.
In the 5th century B.C., when Herodotus, the father of History, was collecting materials for his immortal work, he traversed nearly every portion of Western Asia. He describes all its principal peoples and places; but the Jews and Jerusalem are of too little consequence to merit a line from his pen.
Not until 332 B.C. do the Jews appear upon the stage of history, and then only as the submissive vassals of a Grecian king."
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Jerusalem was essentially a cow town, not the glorious capital of an empire. These findings have been accepted by the majority of biblical scholars and archaeologists for years and even decades.
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The tales of the patriarchs -- Abraham, Isaac and Joseph among others -- were the first to go when biblical scholars found those passages rife with anachronisms and other inconsistencies.
The story of Exodus, one of the most powerful epics of enslavement, courage and liberation in human history, also slipped from history to legend when archaeologists could no longer ignore the lack of corroborating contemporary Egyptian accounts and the absence of evidence of large encampments in the Sinai Peninsula ("the wilderness" where Moses brought the Israelites after leading them through the parted Red Sea).
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The famous battle of Jericho, with which the Israelites supposedly launched this campaign of conquest after wandering for decades in the desert, has been likewise debunked: The city of Jericho didn't exist at that time and had no walls to come tumbling down. These assertions are all pretty much accepted by mainstream archaeologists.
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In particular, the account of Joshua's conquest of Canaan is inconsistent with the archaeological evidence. Cities supposedly conquered by Joshua in the 14th century bce were destroyed long before he came on the scene. Some, such as Ai and Arad, had been ruins for a 1000 years.
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http://freethought.mbdojo.com/archeology.html
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Sweetums: I have more evidence in my shoebox than you have in all the Creationist Academies in North America.
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The God of Abraham Will
Always Be A Myth To
Those Who Choose
Not To Receive
Him and His
Promises,
Rewards
In Holy
Bible.
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Psalm..., It has nothing to do with me "choosing" not to receive Him.
It's hard evidence.
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God Is A Rewarder.
Choose Life. He
Is Love. He
L o v e s
Y o u.
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But without faith no one can please God. We must believe that God is real and rewards everyone who searches for him. (HEBREWS 11:6 CEV)
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There ya go. A favorite scripture of mine that makes it plain that a person must choose delusional ignorance to believe in god.
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All of The Promises
Of God Are Yes
And Amen.
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Rewards
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But without faith no one can please God. We must believe that God is real
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and rewards everyone who searches for him. (HEBREWS 11:6 CEV)
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If their's no God then who or what created all this? I find it harder to believe that a mindless cell did it all. If science is so smart then why cant they create life? They know what makes up a human body and they have the technology . A cell created us; what a joke.
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There are NO scientists that believe a cell created us.
The joke's on you.
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This is what I get for going to bed early.

I'm pretty sure the whole God concept was never invented, per se. Our brains are wired to think there is a god. But what precisely we must do to please this god I think is very possibly invented by past individuals who had one thing in mind: Control.

Poor Psalm. I know you mean well, but you've been hoodwinked.
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I think our brains are wired to "think" or feel there is a god as a misunderstanding of our highly developed human empathy which evolution has selected for people who perceive of themselves as members of a greater humanity and benefactors of the extended family and tribal society. Which also allows us to have a third person perspective on the world and our society which then only needs a characature to personify that perspective.
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God-Father, Son & Holy Spirit
Always Existed. After satan
Deceived Adam/Eve, God
Sent His Son Jesus To
Redeem Mank i n d.
In Genesis T w o
God Tells How
He Created
Gen. One
Man.
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You know our Lord Jesus Christ treated us with undeserved grace by giving up all his riches, so you could become rich. (2 CORINTHIANS 8:9 CEV)

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It may have been a great sermon, but it did nothing to answer the question.
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There Truly Is
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1. Jesus was just a man like anyone else. He was perhaps God's son in the same figurative way that both you and I are, but nothing more than that. In fact, God does not have children or other family members. The Greek gods on Olympus had them, but not the One True God. 2. As implied from my first answer, there is not son of God. There is just God, and God's presence with us, the Shechinah, is perhaps similar to what you call the Holy Spirit, but it is in no sense a god in itself. 3. The Bible is not necessarily written in chronological order. The creation story is indeed told twice, each story emphasizes different aspects. So after Man was already created, the story is retold from another viewpoint, that emphasizes the dust part. Some people believe the documents approach, that different versions by different authors were compiled together. That approach was popular in the middle of the 20th century, but not as much this day and age.

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God made man in his image; Mind, body and spirit.In Gods case : his mind (who he is) his body being Jesus- and he's Spirit) being the Holy Ghost.
As far as the creation of man: you are correct in that the races were created on the 6th day creation "male and female he made them" to be hunters and fishermen .
He made Adam and Eve on the 8th day. They were farmers and the forerunners of Jesus lineage Each day was a thousand years here.
Study with "Shepard's Chapel" and you'll learn allot .

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Finally!!! I have found another sheperds chapel follower! You just gave them a gift, if they are smart enough to use it. Amen Amen!
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If your Pentecostal or non denominational you'd realize that jesus is gods son that god put into marry the Holy Spirit is something that goes into you and makes it to where you can speak in tounges and god is well the father

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Maybe one of you can explain the tooth fairy to me, because that didn't make any sense either.

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You lose a tooth and a fairy comes and takes it, giving you a present instead. Jeez you should know that one by now.
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You so funny. How are you ?
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I'm doing okay, how about yourself?
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I'm ok. Glueing a dresser drawer back together in my little shop. Test assembling a space themed gumball machine I'm customizing. Got the painted metal sandblasted off and I'm seeing how these giant rocket ship legs I welded together are gonna fit.
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There are no 'stages'. God is GOD. One God in three parts - God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit.
An somewhat inadequate but hopefully helpful example would be like a pie cut in three pieces. One pie all the same but in three parts.
Its possible because God is GOD! He is creator if ALL things including time, space, physics, etc. He made these things, He INVENTED these things and He exists outside of these. He is not goverened by them. He is eternal. He is everywhere at once, all seeing all knowing and all piwerful because He IS!
Being in heaven and manifest in human form on earth at the same time would be like childs play for God..
God created the earth, then He created man out of the newly created earth. It was all perfection. Then man let evil into the world by making bad choices. Then it became necessary to pro-create to advance a no-longer perfect, eternal human race. God banished them from the Garden that had been their home and told them to start having babies to populate the earth. Which is why humans were so long lived back then.

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FIRST: God made Adam out of dust and Eve from Adams rib. God told THEM to multiply.
Jesus is God in the flesh. He is Gods son. The Holy Trinity is God the Father, who created us. God the Son who saved us and God the Holy Spirit who is the communication between Them and us and gives us understanding.
Hope this helps.

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1. Some believe that Jesus is really the son of god and some believe that it is a figure of speech in the sense that we are all children of god.
2. I don't think the concept of the trinity is in the bible. Somebody came up with that much later.
3. If you read genesis more carefully, you will see that the problem that you discovered is endemic. The reason is because there were originally 2 stories for genesis and someone combined the two to make one story. Because different people were familiar with different versions, the author had to include BOTH versions so as to not offend anyone. The same is true for Noah. If you read further and carefully it is very obvious. There is a book "Who Wrote The Bible" which goes into much more detail.

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God The Father, God The Son, and God The Holy Spirit.


John 1:1-5

1 In the beginning was the Word,( Jesus ) and the Word ( Jesus ) was with God, and the Word ( Jesus ) was God. 2 He ( Jesus ) was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, ( Jesus ) and without Him ( Jesus ) nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him ( Jesus ) was life, and the life was the light of men ( Jesus ). 5 And the light ( Jesus ) shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.


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Jesus is not God's Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. To be the Son of God is to be of the same nature as God. The Son of God is "of God." The claim to be of the same nature as God-to in fact be God.
The climax of God's creative work was His extraordinary creation of man. "The LORD God formed the man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being" (Genesis 2:7). The supreme Creator of heaven and earth did two things in creating man. First, He formed him from the very dust of the ground, and, second, He breathed His own breath into the nostrils of Adam. This distinguished man from all of God's other creatures.


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Excellent as always!
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Allah says :

( 171 ) O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

( 172 ) Never would the Messiah disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor would the angels near [to Him]. And whoever disdains His worship and is arrogant - He will gather them to Himself all together. Quran (4:171-172)

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It is interesting how the Muslims hate the Hebrew people and yet they Hijack their religion and twist it into a cult of evil. As if Satan himself made it as a mockery of Judaism. Maybe all Muslims are not terrorists, they jury is still out on that one, but why are all terrorists Muslims?
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mmm, i wonder if you are asking or insulting ...but whatever , i am going to answer you , so please be patient and try to read this ...,

Do Muslims Hate Jews?
http://www.onislam.net/english/ask-about-islam/society-and-family/interfaith-issues/167786-do-muslims-hate-jews.html
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It is claimed that Muhammad peace be upon him wrote the Qur'an
from the scriptures of Jews and Christians

http://ccfc-ye.org/sf/pubs/Misconceptions%20about%20Islam%202.pdf
page 21
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What Does Islam Say about Terrorism?

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/238/
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I was hoping for an honest answer, instead I got a bunch of kitman and taqiyya. Next time, I would prefer truth, and if your convictions compell you not to be honest then at least make it a shorter answer.
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it looks that you don't have any thing to say except " kitman and taqiyya " , and i don't think that you will get your " honest answer " as what i said is already the truth , but if you don't want to accept it , that is not my problem ... Allah says :

( 7 ) And who is more unjust than one who invents about Allah untruth while he is being invited to Islam. And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.

( 8 ) They want to extinguish the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it.

Quran (61:7-8)
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I said more than just kitman and taqiyya. Of all the things I said, why did you pick on this and why did you ignore everything else I said? I may have mentioned them, but I do not observe them Perhaps it is you who speaks nothing but kitman and taqiyya? Perhaps this is because you observe them, and assume everyone else does too?
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mmm, it looks that it is useless to talk with you , if you convinced yourself that all what i talk is kitman and taqiyya, then it is your problem and not mine ...but .whatever , i shall clarify something , Allah says :

( 106 ) Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... except for one who is forced [to renounce his religion] while his heart is secure in faith. But those who [willingly] open their breasts to disbelief, upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment; Quran (16:106)
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( 28 ) Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever [of you] does that has nothing with Allah, except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the [final] destination.Quran (3:28)
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Asma bint Yazid narrated that the Messenger of Allah said: "it is not lawful to lie except in three cases: Something the man tells his wife to please her, to lie during war, and to lie in order to bring peace between the people."(Sahih)
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Now , only in these cases you can lie ... do you see creating lies about Islam to make people inter it among them ...?
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Well if you are convinced all I said was two small words I used, and that everything else will not convince otherwise then you are ignoring the truth if it doesn't suit you. Which is dishonesty. It is kitman. I prefer to discuss things with someone who is honest. Is it because I am what you call infidel that I do not deserve to be treated honestly? It is because infidels are stupid that you must try to deceive? You are a great deceiver, I see you have been taught by studying the teaching of an even greater deciever. But I am not deceived. And if you think I am then you have only deceived yourself. God doesn't delight in deceipt, and evil does not please him. He likes justice and good deeds. Not evil done in his name. Maybe you can learn from this. I hope you do.
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well,think whatever you want , i spoke the truth , at least that what i believe , if you want to accept or reject it ... ,that's for you ..., i don't follow what you follow ,and you don't follow what i follow , to Allah is our return , He will judge between us , and He is the best of judges .
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How can (at least Christians say) people have a spirit as well as a physical body? (Even the non-religious would say there is a consciousness/life force that is not physical.). Yet though one lives in the other and can separate from the other (i.e. the definition of "death" is the separation of the spirit/life force/conscious being from the physical being) how can both be that person? Again, if you go see say 80 year old "Joe" at the funeral home - is the body of matter laying there "him"? (If so, who was he 70 years ago when that matter was made up of totally different matter/atoms?). Or is "he" the conscious part that was his personality and"felt" and "thought", etc.? How can they be different and yet the same? How can they both be "him"?
And that that is something we live with and deal with every day! How can we begin to understand a being who by definition is not like us, but eternal, existing outside of time and space!, using human "words" like "son" and "God" which are highly arbitrary and based on our own definitions depending on our own backgrounds/cultures/experiences.
"You" are made up of "different beings" - a physical being, a social being, mental, spiritual, that doesn't mean in any way that these different parts of you are "stages" !
God created people and then told them to multiply.

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1. God was Jesus' father in Heaven, because God made him to be the savior.
2. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is God, Jesus, and idk what the spirit is.
3. In Genesis Adam was the first human ever made- and he was made from dust. And God told HIM to multiply with Eve.

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Good Morning Kipple14. The
Following Scripture Gives
Some Info On Who The
H o l y Spirit Is. He
Lives Inside A l l
Who Receives
Jesus.
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But when He, the Spirit of Truth (the Truth-giving Spirit)
comes, He will guide you into all the Truth (the whole, full Truth). For He will not
speak His own message [on His own authority]; but He will tell whatever He hears
[from the Father; He will give the message that has been given to Him], and He will
announce and declare to you the things that are to come [that
will happen in the future]. (John 16:13 AMP)
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Genesis1:26. "Then God said, "Let us make a man--someone like ourselves."
(Living Bible)
John 20:17 "Jesus said to her, "Do not hold me. for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my
brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."
(Revised Standard)
John 1:18 "No one has ever actually seen God, but of course , his only Son has, for he is the companion of the Father and has told us about him."
(Living Bible). Had any human seen Jesus Christ, the Son of God?? Of course! So, then was John saying that Jesus was God? Obviously not. Toward the end of the Gospel, John summarized matters, saying : "These are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, [not God,but] the son of God." (Revised Standard)

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