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Why has Homeland Security bought 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition? This is enough to shoot every person in the US 5 times.

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Because they look real nice sitting in the warehouse, right next to the $400 toilet seats and $250 hammers the US gvt. bought years ago.

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I would love to know why myself, however who do you believe in anymore, besides God?

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My wife. That's it. And she has her moments!
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lol I hear that
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God and knowing the population is well armed
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Because everybody in America is buying ammunition. Why should they be any different during a shortage. They need to protect themselves from threats.

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You do understand how much 1.6 billion is don't you?
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I can agree with the protection idea.
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They are supposed to be protecting us not shooting us. We are not the enemy.
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I understand the number. I also understand the need for it. Remember that they have gun training on a regular basis and aren't going to be firing fruit loops.
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This is a huge amount of ammo , don't understand at all why they require such a large number of rounds unless we are anticipating a ground war at the Mexican and Canadian borders simultaneously ?? lol
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The Mexican cartel has a huge arsenal.
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These aren't target practice bullets. They are hollow points, meant to do extreme damage. Please take the time to look into this matter. Don't just assume they are for our and their protection.
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One more thing, not everybody is buying up ammo. There is currently a huge shortage. Hmmm wonder if the two are tied.
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They are tied together. Ammunition manufacturers cannot keep up with current demand.
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And people are buying up ammo. Stores now limit customers to the amount that they can buy so they can keep some stock on the shelves.
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In not defending the govt here but yes they use the same rounds for target training. I'm wondering if the purchases for HS aren't a way to skirt around budget cuts to to other branches of military ?
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been What did you write on my comment about the sleepy kid? The "people" deleted it.
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U think I'm a threat once they try to take over then we will all be considered threats
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Patricia. I can't remember. They deleted my answer also. I guess somebody didn't like them.
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For their executions, torture, making people disappear, every government has that, I don't see why the United States doesn't follow that, they have been known to be violent against non-Americans.

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The government can still do what they want...obviously they are "above" their employers...which is us.

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Sadly they can do what they want as long as low information voters keep allowing it. In order to stop this, we must wake people up from the media and Obama's hypnotic state that they have so skillfully put half the country in. Until we the people fully understand that our Constitution puts limits on the government, not the people, we will continue to be in this downward slide of tyranny.
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I think it goes further than Obama...all political figures lost their ways. Politics changed since Reagan reign was over.
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I agree Helix. It is just happening on a larger scale under Obama somewhat because of his hypnotic way of speaking. It truly is an art that he can stand at the podium and people believe all the lies that he says without question. Of course we have a media that helps him pull this off.
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because they are stupid

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More like the public is stupid.
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Speaking of low information voters, try facts
From politfact...
The chain email links to a March 18, 2012, entry on the conservative Fellowship of the Minds blog referring to a posting on the PR Newswire website. On that site, we pulled up a March 12, 2012, release from Minnesota-based ATK, an aerospace, defense and commercial products company.
The release says ATK has been awarded an "Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quality" agreement from Homeland Security and Immigration and Customs Enforcement for .40 caliber ammunition. "This contract features a base of 12 months, includes four option years, and will have a maximum volume of 450 million rounds," the release says. It adds that ATK already was supplying such ammunition.
The release, noting that deliveries are expected to begin in June 2012.
Next, we reached Homeland Security spokesman Matthew Chandler who said by email that the cited quantity of up to 450 million rounds is "the quantity projected to be used over the next five years."
"This contract is intended to be used by all agencies except the U.S. Coast Guard, he said, which uses ammunition obtained through the DoD. According to a Homeland Security web page, the agency?s 20-plus components include the Transportation Security Administration, which handles passenger screening at most airports; U.S. Customs and Border Protection, entrusted with keeping terrorists and their weapons out of the country and with enforcing immigration and drug laws; U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement; and the Secret Service.
Chandler?s email continues: "This contract is part of the department?s strategic sourcing efforts to combine multiple previous contracts in order to leverage the purchasing power of the entire department, including the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center," another Homeland Security component, "which trains nearly all federal law enforcement personnel, to efficiently procure equipment and supplies."

The Georgia-based center says it trains law officers for 90 federal agencies and also officers in state, local, tribal, and international law enforcement. Chandler said that in the 12 months through September 2011, over 11,000 students at the center fired over 11 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition, primarily in basic training.
Chandler said earlier that Homeland Security oversees more than 135,000 weapons-carrying officers.
Our calculation: If those officers go through all the possible 450 million rounds at the same rate each over five years -- admittedly, an unlikely balance -- each officer will have used about 667 bullets a year.

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Copy and paste is not an answer. All of this info seems to be from a year ago. This is new news. No matter how you may try to spin it, 1.6 Billion rounds is way too much ammo for any reason other than war. Who is HS at war with???
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There are multiple depts under homeland security. It's called bulk buying to save money. Find a new boogie man.
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It seems excessive but it's needed for training proposes. Heck I shot 1-2k rounds a year for hunting clays and punching paper. is HS. buying this yearly? the government needs to have a stockpile of weapons and ammo.

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This is more than what was used in WW11. Do you use hollow points for target practice? You must be as rich as our current government thinks it is.
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Actually I use ballistic tips. The same billets I use for hunting. Using different bullets for different activities throws off ballistics and changes accuracy. You should always practice with the same ammo. Yes hollow points are slightly higher price then FMJ bullets. Hollow points have more knock down power and do more terminal damage.
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As I stated in another comment. The government could be having homeland security buying ammo and supplying the military as a way to end around budget cuts to the military. This is a common practice in government. It's not right.
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U don't use jacketed hollow point ammunition for practice its to expensive
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Why would you use a different bullet with different ballistics that will pattern and target differently for practice then go into a real world situation? You might as well not practice at all. Go price some billets you'll find the cost difference isn't as great as you think
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A box of em costs about 20 bucks where as normal costs about 6-7 dollars
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Well you must be shopping in the wrong place because I just bought some FMJ and hollow points the price was $4 more for the hollow points per 100 bullets. .224 diameter
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If you listen to the conspiracy theorists, they're buying all that ammunition for just that purpose. Lol

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I'm still waiting for an honest answer from HS as to why they need billions of bullets. When they don't have a reasonable/honest answer, some people will find one that fits. Others just accept that the gov is trying to take care of them until its too late to do a thing about what history has repeatedly shown us.
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Red, please look up how many depts now fall under hs
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I have and 1.6 Billion is still way way too much ammo for a govt that is supposed to be protecting our rights not shooting US civilians. It would be a lot if our military had that much and they are supposed to be protecting us from foreign countries so it would be less questionable for them to have that much ammo.
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Its a Big Boom Theory

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They r gonna seize power but they'll have millions of well armed citizens to deal with and my pistol AR

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Military won't let them shoot us, and they have more ammunition . Most homeland security people neither carry weapons or are trained to use them.they have x- ray machines

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So why the need for all this ammo???
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They supply ammo for training of different gov. Agency's , border guards for one example. Research it and judge for yourself if you believe it or not. I was satisfied.
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So you think hollow point bullets are used for training? They are too expensive! I did research it. It's enough ammo for the military to be at war for 5 years. A little overkill I would say.
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In my opinion the more they purchase the less ammo that is available for citizens.

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To get prepared for the executive order to have martial law for the begging of a new dictatorship

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