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helixaqua:
3 months ago
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"If" he comes back I'm sure he will see it as that HE had a lasting impact on what he did....probably see that people do remember him after all these loooong years. I'm also sure he will facepalm after he finds out how careless and thoughtless most are.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
So if you were to meet JFK's family would you wear a rifle pendant?
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helixaqua:
3 months ago
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JFK isn't important...and I probably would.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
Yes he was important, do a little history...and how disrespectful are you?
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helixaqua:
3 months ago
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I know my history...especially presidential history. He was a womanizer and a horrible president.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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I agree helix, he was an awful example for this country. His father even cheated getting him elected as senator of Mass. Put the competitions name in the ballot pulls TWICE!! Split the vote...
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
A horrible president? Despite his personal life he was a good president. Better than either of the Bush's.
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MarSch:
3 months ago
I think it's CATHOLICS that wear crucifixes. In the churches I've been to, a crucifix wouldn't be worn, because we believe that Jesus is no longer ON the cross - He gained victory over that (and death) and rose again. So we celebrate the cross because of what it accomplished for us (or rather what Jesus accomplished ON IT for us), but we worship Jesus.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
To me it's stupid. It's the same as wearing a rifle pendant to meet JFK's family.
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AaronJonas:
3 months ago
I wear a cross made of nails and I'm a Christian.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Hardly! You're comparing a drug addicted cheater to Jesus??
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No she's comparing a commemoration of a murder to another another commemoration of a murder. She did not compare Jesus Christ to JFK.
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MarSch:
3 months ago
The cross, to me, represents all that my Saviour did for me - paying for my sins in a horrible way (by taking the terrible punishment I DESERVED), and dying for me so I could be reunited with God. It symbolizes EVERYTHING that is good to me. So it's not stupid - and it's not "just" jewelry. It STANDS for something.
A rifle could stand for something, too - I know. But not for something nearly as important.
A rifle could stand for something, too - I know. But not for something nearly as important.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Sexy I get you, I just don't think you (maybe?) understand exactly what that cross meant. That's all I'm saying.
I love the cross. And He HAD to go to it for us to have eternal life. Peter said "let's take up our arms" to fight for Christs life. Jesus said "stand behind me Satan" because that WAS Satan talking, trying to keep Him from the cross. The cross represents death defeated!
I love the cross. And He HAD to go to it for us to have eternal life. Peter said "let's take up our arms" to fight for Christs life. Jesus said "stand behind me Satan" because that WAS Satan talking, trying to keep Him from the cross. The cross represents death defeated!
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
No I understand...go google Bill Hicks and my question. It's from his material. I was raised with the church. I don't need the church, middle men, or stupid jewelry to justify my beliefs.
You do realize less than 1/3 of the worlds population is Christian? I am NOT part of that demographic.
You do realize less than 1/3 of the worlds population is Christian? I am NOT part of that demographic.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
Was. Past tense.
Genius, pure genius, has always bordered on insanity. Bill was quite sane, and very right about many things.
Go look up what he had to say about music and teen music, just replace the names with modern ones (like one direction) and it still holds true.
BTW- you do know his father was a preacher/minister and he was raised with the church. He showed his parents every bit of his material and they never thought he was insane. In fact one of his specials is called "Sane Man".
You used present tense so that tells me you don't know squat about Bill and his brand of comedy.
Genius, pure genius, has always bordered on insanity. Bill was quite sane, and very right about many things.
Go look up what he had to say about music and teen music, just replace the names with modern ones (like one direction) and it still holds true.
BTW- you do know his father was a preacher/minister and he was raised with the church. He showed his parents every bit of his material and they never thought he was insane. In fact one of his specials is called "Sane Man".
You used present tense so that tells me you don't know squat about Bill and his brand of comedy.
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JamesKaeberle:
3 months ago
Oh yes I do. I've seen his stuff on youtube.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
You tube?! Ha! I OWN ALL his work. Maybe that's why I have better knowledge about him and the fact he's been dead for almost 20 years.
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JamesKaeberle:
3 months ago
Never say I did know more about him than you. :-) One thing I do know more about than you is the Word Of God in which is far more important than Bill Hicks.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
A political comedian, it's biting sarcasm.
I worship no human.
I worship no human.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
I know all about the word of GOD, and how misconstrued people are.
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SexySedai:
2 months ago
So far so good...happy children, happy husband, happy pets, happy me :)
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Ninja_Jackie_san:
3 months ago
I used to be devoutly Christian. I wore a cross to symbolize Jesus' sacrifice for humankind, and as a symbol that I was a Christian.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
So if going to meet JFK's family would you wear a rifle pendant?
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Ninja_Jackie_san:
3 months ago
Well no, but now I'm atheist/agnostic after educating myself about religion, science, and Christianity if that tells you anything...
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swaggness5:
3 months ago
What Christ did for us is a good thing...bc of the cross we have life eternal.. The cross shows his love for us
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swaggness5:
3 months ago
And ninja is it alright if I ask you some questions?
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
I get that Jackie, I'm spiritual agnostic with some Pagan beliefs. I believe in SOMETHING so I don't claim atheism. Years ago I met my husband who is Native American, I've learned many things. One being that I don't need a "middle man" to communicate with my maker and I don't feel that church is a place of good people. The ones who go to church the most are THE biggest sinners of all...that's why they go so much, because they KNOW they're going to hell.
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swaggness5:
3 months ago
Alright so your agnostic that's always a good sign... Lemme ask you some questions then if you don't mind...do you believe that God is good/just
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
I believe everything happens as it should. I believe we cannot have love, joy, and peace without also having hate, sorrow, and war.
I believe NO ONE is a purely good person, I believe everyone has just as much bad in them as good. I believe if you don't in some way show thanks for what you have, you will slowly lose all that you have. I believe that if you don't show kindness to animals you're an evil being. I believe Lilith was the first woman in creation not Eve. I believe in every form of Karma and I believe black cats to be lucky. I also believe in magic. I've performed household spells and I've seen blood magic with results. Oh, and that everything you SAY comes back to you, if you're verbally negative and insulting it invites negativity into your life. That one I know too well, my birth mother RADIATES negative energy and I have to work hard to not absorb it.
I believe NO ONE is a purely good person, I believe everyone has just as much bad in them as good. I believe if you don't in some way show thanks for what you have, you will slowly lose all that you have. I believe that if you don't show kindness to animals you're an evil being. I believe Lilith was the first woman in creation not Eve. I believe in every form of Karma and I believe black cats to be lucky. I also believe in magic. I've performed household spells and I've seen blood magic with results. Oh, and that everything you SAY comes back to you, if you're verbally negative and insulting it invites negativity into your life. That one I know too well, my birth mother RADIATES negative energy and I have to work hard to not absorb it.
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swaggness5:
3 months ago
Alrighty I c...but more of a yes or no answer is God good and just?
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
Re-read. I said I believe everything happens as it should. What's fair and just for one isn't necessarily so for another.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
Of course. ALL religions have the same basic ones, be good to your fellow man, show kindness to animals, that sort of thing.
Everyone says treat others how you want to be treated...I've always had a hard time with that, I tend to treat people the way they deserve. Because of that some people strongly dislike me and some people think it's inspiring how I call people out on their bull spit. My philosophy on that is if you're gonna be a jerk, that's how I'm going to treat you. If you try and push your religious beliefs on me I'll get pushy right back but I'll add a dash of snarcasm. That's snarky sarcasm.
Everyone says treat others how you want to be treated...I've always had a hard time with that, I tend to treat people the way they deserve. Because of that some people strongly dislike me and some people think it's inspiring how I call people out on their bull spit. My philosophy on that is if you're gonna be a jerk, that's how I'm going to treat you. If you try and push your religious beliefs on me I'll get pushy right back but I'll add a dash of snarcasm. That's snarky sarcasm.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
I'm not an atheist though, not by a long shot.
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lonejoe:
3 months ago
so if he died by a hammer or guillotine I wonder if people would wear those around their necks.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Well He didn't so we don't have to worry about that senselessly...
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lonejoe:
3 months ago
I'm just saying that either way, if you think about other things that might have killed him, wearing how would it be wearing those (if he died that way) any less insensitive than wearing a cross? My point is, you shouldn't have to wear a cross to remember how he died for you. and If you really do need something to look at and say "oh yeah! I almost forgot! this guy died for me!" than you probably have a lot more issues with god than you think.
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Good point lonejoe. I made a similar one in my answer. When I started typing my answer there was only one other answer by the time I posted it there were a bunch. My answer was kind of long and I'm a slow typist.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Is that REALLY how you interpret this and what she just said??
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
My interpretation is DO YOU REALLY THINK HE'LL EVER WANT TO SEE A CROSS AGAIN?
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
Lone Joe and JD get it, the rest of you have only proven your ignorance and your self righteousness.
Looking at all the answers and comments...THIS is why I roll my eyes at MOST Christians.
Looking at all the answers and comments...THIS is why I roll my eyes at MOST Christians.
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PaigeOfABook:
3 months ago
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The cross symbolizes Jesus's sacrifice for the sinners. They wear it to remind themselves of it.
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bubalu:
3 months ago
I think Christians wear it as a symbol of their faith and to remind them of the sacrifice Jesus/God made to save them. And if Jesus comes back, I don't think he would really care. I think there are more pressing matters to worry about than whether someone is wearing or not wearing a cross.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
I think he would care...it's the equivalent to wearing a rifle pendant when meeting JFK's family.
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bubalu:
3 months ago
He's God. Plus Christians believe he sacrificed himself on purpose and died like that for the world so it's a symbol of that love and sacrifice. Also, if I haven't mentioned it before he's God. I would like to believe a perfect being would be able to move beyond that.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
I'm talking about Jesus NOT God, and you just described a martyr.
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bubalu:
3 months ago
Christians believe Jesus and God are the same and different beings. And yes, he would be considered a martyr. Christians like to quote something like John 3:16 regarding the whole Jesus dying on the cross and why he did it. If you're not Christian, then this probably won't make all that much sense to you.
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swaggness5:
3 months ago
John 3:16 was more for him coming into the world but that's fine;) haha
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bubalu:
3 months ago
I think it's an explanation why Jesus was sent to die on the cross and endure what he did. He was dying for mankind's sins and giving everyone the opportunity to be saved. I think something like that changes the meaning of the death and the cross. I could be wrong, it has been a while since I studied all this stuff.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
And I think all of you are over interpreting my question to suit you. I know ALL about symbolism and your Christian church.
My point is DO YOU REALLY THINK HE'D WANT TO EVER LOOK AT A CROSS?!
Just as my question says, so stop trying to reinterpret it.
My point is DO YOU REALLY THINK HE'D WANT TO EVER LOOK AT A CROSS?!
Just as my question says, so stop trying to reinterpret it.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
You're comparing the pain of childbirth to that of a crucifixion?! That's stretching things a bit...and actually some mothers do. It's called post pardum depression.
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bubalu:
3 months ago
And those mothers that don't have a problem...I guess those are the weird ones wanting that reminder around. I haven't been through either, but I imagine both are high on the pain scale. But if there was a good reason to endure a lot of pain, like to bring salvation to the world or to give birth, I wouldn't see it as a bad thing. Clearly, we disagree on the idea that a symbol of the pain a person has to endure can be more than just a reminder of the pain to that person.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
ALL women go through PPD. You've never given birth so you don't know.
If you need to wear a special piece of jewelry to remember your beliefs you have problems.
If you need to wear a special piece of jewelry to remember your beliefs you have problems.
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bubalu:
3 months ago
There's nothing wrong with a reminder like having a picture of a deceased grandparent. Who does that hurt? But hey, if you don't care or you're too good for those things, that's your prerogative. I don't think it's necessary to point it out, much like pointing out to a person in a wheelchair they need it to get around while you can walk.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
Do you wear a picture of deceased relatives around your neck to remember them? No you don't.
I stand by what I said, if you need to wear a special piece of jewelry to remind you of your faith then you don't have true faith. If you truly had faith in your heart you wouldn't need a mental talisman because your faith would be unwavering. I know plenty of Christians who believe the same and don't need to wear a cross to remind them they have Christ in their hearts.
It's a material possession, true faith is not.
Comparing it to a person who is physically handicapped is completely off base, you have no physical need to wear jewelry. So your argument from that point is invalid.
I stand by what I said, if you need to wear a special piece of jewelry to remind you of your faith then you don't have true faith. If you truly had faith in your heart you wouldn't need a mental talisman because your faith would be unwavering. I know plenty of Christians who believe the same and don't need to wear a cross to remind them they have Christ in their hearts.
It's a material possession, true faith is not.
Comparing it to a person who is physically handicapped is completely off base, you have no physical need to wear jewelry. So your argument from that point is invalid.
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bubalu:
3 months ago
You mean a locket with their picture in it? Does that count?
The analogy is valid. Others might need reminders of their faith just like others need a wheelchair or cane to get around. Does that mean those who don't need reminders of their faith are better people? Does it matter that a Christian might use a reminder to keep them from sinning? It has been years since I've been to church but I could have sworn Jesus came for the sinners and not those who were already perfect.
The analogy is valid. Others might need reminders of their faith just like others need a wheelchair or cane to get around. Does that mean those who don't need reminders of their faith are better people? Does it matter that a Christian might use a reminder to keep them from sinning? It has been years since I've been to church but I could have sworn Jesus came for the sinners and not those who were already perfect.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
Alright, have it your way...religion is a crutch. That's the validity of your argument. If it's needed like a wheelchair or leg braces, then it's a crutch.
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Johnniesvisions:
3 months ago
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Every religion has some sort of symbol or ritual that its adherents carry with them as a physical link to spirituality. Even basketball players make the sign of the cross as a hedge against missing.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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I wear a cross. I love Him and what He did for me. I don't wear one with Him on it because He isn't anymore. The cross represents His love for me.
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RainingStar:
2 months ago
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I saw you commented on my response two hours ago but when I went to read it it was gone. What's up with you getting deleted so much? Is someone targeting your answers?
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JamesKaeberle:
3 months ago
I believe some claim because it reminds them of what Jesus went though for them. But if your a Christian He should be in your heart and you should be transformed by the renewing of your mind. So if Jesus is truly with you then you don't need a reminder. My Jesus conquered the cross and the grave and has risen. He's the Risen King. I'm in agreement with MarSch. God Bless!
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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You know why I do in all honestly? Because for a few seconds when someone sees it, they think of Him. Just one split second can make a difference. They know I'm a recovering MANY THINGS who has complete faith in Christ.
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JamesKaeberle:
3 months ago
Well to wear a cross is different than wearing a cruifix. I don't have a problem with crosses and yes your statement can very well make people think. Even to a point that they may ask you is your a Christian in which could lead to a conversation which could lead to a seed being planted. God Bless!
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Sincerity:
3 months ago
That's right Suzie. James you should know that wearing a cross can be a very powerful witness took.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Haha, I got ya! For me it is. I'm always asked about it. ALWAYS!
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Suzie1617:
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Ya, the crucifix does bother me to see. I can't stand seeming Him up there when I go to catholic churches for whatever.
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MarSch:
3 months ago
Yes, I don't HAVE to wear a cross to know Jesus is in me. I wear it because I want EVERYONE to know Jesus is in me.
Although I have to admit, many more people are wearing crosses now as jewelry that don't have a clue about Jesus... Either way, it can bring up the topic, if the timing is right...
Although I have to admit, many more people are wearing crosses now as jewelry that don't have a clue about Jesus... Either way, it can bring up the topic, if the timing is right...
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Suzie1617:
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Yes Mar, a piece of me hurls when I see Madonna.... Yuck!
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MarSch:
3 months ago
Boy, isn't THAT true!
Sometimes my unsaved son, who keeps saying he's ALMOST ready to receive Jesus, will say something like "well, praise the Lord" and it makes me cringe. I know he says it just for me, but it makes me hurt when I hear him saying something he has absolutely no knowledge of... One of these days, I'll confront him about it. Of course, there'll be a little bit of an arguement then... So maybe not.
Boy, talk about getting off subject. Sorry 'bout that! Have a good one, Suzie...
Sometimes my unsaved son, who keeps saying he's ALMOST ready to receive Jesus, will say something like "well, praise the Lord" and it makes me cringe. I know he says it just for me, but it makes me hurt when I hear him saying something he has absolutely no knowledge of... One of these days, I'll confront him about it. Of course, there'll be a little bit of an arguement then... So maybe not.
Boy, talk about getting off subject. Sorry 'bout that! Have a good one, Suzie...
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
Maybe you should leave your son alone and stop trying to push your personal beliefs on him.
Personal=private, as in KEEP IT TO YOURSELF.
I pity your son with a mother like you.
Personal=private, as in KEEP IT TO YOURSELF.
I pity your son with a mother like you.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
and I'm sorry if you find that offensive, but my family isn't like that. My husband is Native American and is agnostic, I am more spiritually inclined, but it's Pagan beliefs. My daughter has recently been baptized into the Mormon faith and my son attends the Baptist church.
I don't believe children automatically HAVE to belief the same as their parents.
I don't believe children automatically HAVE to belief the same as their parents.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
and I'm no stranger to faith and denominations.
The key is TOLERANCE, not jewelry.
The key is TOLERANCE, not jewelry.
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JamesKaeberle:
3 months ago
And your entitled to do what you wish with your family just as MarSch is hers.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
Yes, but that doesn't mean she's not damaging her son and in all likelihood driving him AWAY from religion by trying to force him to believe the same as her.
If I was trying to force Paganism or Satanism on my children everyone would find that to be messed up. Just saying.
If I was trying to force Paganism or Satanism on my children everyone would find that to be messed up. Just saying.
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JamesKaeberle:
3 months ago
The Bible says bring a child up in the way he should go and he will not depart from it. If he's still living at home and under his parents roof then she has every right to do so. When he leave and gets on his own then he can make his own choices.
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MarSch:
3 months ago
Boy, ya'll just don't GET it, do you? You wonder why we talk about it, sometimes even PUSH it (as you ASSUMED I do to my son). I've been on the receiving end of someone trying to convince me of something, and it's not fun.
But this is what ya'll (meaning atheists, or others) don't understand... If my son does NOT receive Jesus, then when he dies, he will live eternally in hell. I LOVE him and I do NOT want that to happen at all! It is VERY important to ALL Christians that the ones they love (especially) come to know God.
I haven't "pushed" Jesus on him for years. Don't even mention it unless he brings it up. A few years ago, I told him if he'll sit and listen with an open mind, I'll tell him everything he needs to know (about getting saved, and God loving him, etc.), and how to ask Jesus into his heart, then I would not keep bringing it up... We did it in Shoney's. He knows how (when he hits bottom), now, and I pray he'll take the step. (he's an alcoholic/druggie.)
But this is what ya'll (meaning atheists, or others) don't understand... If my son does NOT receive Jesus, then when he dies, he will live eternally in hell. I LOVE him and I do NOT want that to happen at all! It is VERY important to ALL Christians that the ones they love (especially) come to know God.
I haven't "pushed" Jesus on him for years. Don't even mention it unless he brings it up. A few years ago, I told him if he'll sit and listen with an open mind, I'll tell him everything he needs to know (about getting saved, and God loving him, etc.), and how to ask Jesus into his heart, then I would not keep bringing it up... We did it in Shoney's. He knows how (when he hits bottom), now, and I pray he'll take the step. (he's an alcoholic/druggie.)
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MarSch:
3 months ago
I'm not going to be around a whole lot longer, maybe 10-15 years, and my son is 45 and having health problems (diabetes, neuropathy) from drinking all those years. Who knows when or where one of us will be gone.
So, please, stop talking about shoving things down their throat. I don't, but I would if that's what it would take. And it all would be out of love. You would do the same thing, if you believed anything strongly, and it would help your family so much. It's a step of total love...
So, please, stop talking about shoving things down their throat. I don't, but I would if that's what it would take. And it all would be out of love. You would do the same thing, if you believed anything strongly, and it would help your family so much. It's a step of total love...
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JamesKaeberle:
3 months ago
Amen! Mar
For years I've tried to talk to my brother about the Lord. He's three years older then me. Anyway He's 63 now and I'm almost 61 After my mother died ( 2009 she was a christian ) it was just me and him and he seems to be coming around and are relationship is better than it's been in almost 35 years. I'll pray for your son. God Bless!
For years I've tried to talk to my brother about the Lord. He's three years older then me. Anyway He's 63 now and I'm almost 61 After my mother died ( 2009 she was a christian ) it was just me and him and he seems to be coming around and are relationship is better than it's been in almost 35 years. I'll pray for your son. God Bless!
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
I've been through NA and have 15 years sober. Your son has to want things for himself.
I was raised by my grandmother who was of the same mind that children HAVE to believe the same as their parents. I think that's messed up personally.
The only thing you can really do for your son is to not enable him and to learn more about addiction. You could also go to an al-anon meeting, that's for family of addicts.
There are MANY more non Christians besides atheists...don't presume I'm an atheist because I'm not. Not by a long shot.
I was raised by my grandmother who was of the same mind that children HAVE to believe the same as their parents. I think that's messed up personally.
The only thing you can really do for your son is to not enable him and to learn more about addiction. You could also go to an al-anon meeting, that's for family of addicts.
There are MANY more non Christians besides atheists...don't presume I'm an atheist because I'm not. Not by a long shot.
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JamesKaeberle:
3 months ago
So in other words you don't believe in the power of God. I was addicted to pot up to the age of 30 and when I got Saved and filled with the Holy spirit I didn't need no worldly program I was totally delivered by the power of the Holy Spirit. When I say delivered I mean miracliously delivered. I never desired it anymore, never craved it anymore and I was never tempted to even think about going back to smoking it. And the reason I know that I was set free from it is becuse I loved getting high and at that time had no desire to quit for anyone. That was 30 years ago. I don't need no worldly program all I need is the Holy Spirit anf God and Jesus. I was also healed of stage 4 cancer.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
You do realize that it's medically proven you can't get addicted to pot...maybe mentally, but not in the true sense of the word.
No I had real addiction problems, meth and acid. I ended up in a meeting completely by accident and after 3 months stopped going because they're mostly whiners.
To me conformed religion is an opiate for the masses. I have never needed a placebo.
No I had real addiction problems, meth and acid. I ended up in a meeting completely by accident and after 3 months stopped going because they're mostly whiners.
To me conformed religion is an opiate for the masses. I have never needed a placebo.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
I'm glad that through medical technology you beat cancer...I mean that sincerely.
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MarSch:
3 months ago
Once again, Sedai, you ASSUME. I am a recovering alcoholic - sober for 24 years (as compared to your 15 years). Instead of continuing to tell me you know it all, please realize that sometimes, once in a great while, maybe even once in a blue moon, you just might be wrong, or might assume incorrectly.
James, I totally believe that Jesus delivered you. He also delivered me. I was sober for 4 years after He delivered me. I didn't know anything about addiction, and I got back into drinking. After a year I was back flat on my face (and I was a leader in the church!). This time the Lord healed me, but in a different way. I did all the right/same things, but He did not take it all away. This time I had to do it the hard way. I couldn't get the help in church, because "if I just believed enough, He would heal me. Or maybe there was some other sin in my life." So my spiritual mentor took me to AA. That's where I got sober. Extremely hard, and grueling process, but I did find out that sometimes He delivers us, but sometimes it's a process and not instantaneous...
James, I totally believe that Jesus delivered you. He also delivered me. I was sober for 4 years after He delivered me. I didn't know anything about addiction, and I got back into drinking. After a year I was back flat on my face (and I was a leader in the church!). This time the Lord healed me, but in a different way. I did all the right/same things, but He did not take it all away. This time I had to do it the hard way. I couldn't get the help in church, because "if I just believed enough, He would heal me. Or maybe there was some other sin in my life." So my spiritual mentor took me to AA. That's where I got sober. Extremely hard, and grueling process, but I did find out that sometimes He delivers us, but sometimes it's a process and not instantaneous...
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MarSch:
3 months ago
By the way, while in AA, several people looked to me for guidance, and one got saved, and two others decided to return to churchl THAT's why, I think, I had to go thru that. The church is not perfect, and I HATED having to go to a secular meeting - felt SO out of place - but look how God used it... He is goodl
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JamesKaeberle:
3 months ago
Sorry Sedai. My healing did not come though medical technology You just assumed that out of your own logical thinking. I was prayed for and miracliously healed. I'm truly sorry you fon't believe in the power of God though the Holy Spirit.
Mar I'm truly glad that it worked out that way for you. And I truly believe God did put you there for that short period of time in order to bring that person to the Lord. Praise Jesus! But I also know that the things they teach 90% or more never truly come to know God it's just a secular way of getting people to overcome their addictions as long as they continue to go to the meeting.
Mar I'm truly glad that it worked out that way for you. And I truly believe God did put you there for that short period of time in order to bring that person to the Lord. Praise Jesus! But I also know that the things they teach 90% or more never truly come to know God it's just a secular way of getting people to overcome their addictions as long as they continue to go to the meeting.
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JamesKaeberle:
3 months ago
Amen! Mar and Thanks! All the Glory goes to Jesus.
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SexySedai:
2 months ago
I was talking about your son not you, but way to twist my point of view.
James, thanks for saying my thinking was logical. I love logicalness.
James, thanks for saying my thinking was logical. I love logicalness.
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SexySedai:
2 months ago
Contrary to what you assume, I don't wish any of you ill will.
If you've been through it personally then you know your son has to want it himself, for himself.
Good for you for finding sobriety! I mean that with all sincerity.
If you've been through it personally then you know your son has to want it himself, for himself.
Good for you for finding sobriety! I mean that with all sincerity.
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MarSch:
2 months ago
Yes, my son has to want it. He KNOWS he's an alcoholic. He wants it all to be gone, I think, without him having to do too much, and we both know that won't work. I don't talk to him about that much anymore either. Gave him the numbers, told him I'd even take him, etc. He's a big boy. Big boys don't like their Mama telling them anything, even tho' I've been thru it, and warned him of all the alkies we have had in the family. I just pray he'll get the help he needs to get sober, and also to REALLY know God, before he dies...
Sedai - congratulations on YOUR sobriety, too... And blessings to you...
Sedai - congratulations on YOUR sobriety, too... And blessings to you...
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AaronJonas:
3 months ago
Well, I were it because I acknowledge what he did for me and to show that I believe he was able to over come the cross. Laying your sins at the cross is the only way to have a chance to live with the father of grace, love, passion, compassion, and creation, and the son who shed his blood for our sins and concord death three day later, for the rest of eternity.
1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
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RainingStar:
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Not all Christians wear crucifixes or crosses. Personally I think if people don't know you're a Christian by your actions, then expecting your jewelry to speak for you is kind of silly.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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You know why I do in all honestly? Because for a few seconds when someone sees it, they think of Him. Just one split second can make a difference. They know I'm a recovering MANY THINGS who has complete faith in Christ.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Oh ya, and guess what? We are getting SNOW AGAIN for the next 3 days..... Rain I'm about to come out and visit you hahaha!! You still got sun? Would people talk? Ya, they'd talk. Oh well..,, more snow!
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RainingStar:
3 months ago
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That's the best answer I ever heard on the subject.
For myself I'll still stick with example over symbols. To often symbols are used to divide people. Good works unite all decent people.
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"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
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For myself I'll still stick with example over symbols. To often symbols are used to divide people. Good works unite all decent people.
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"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
- Matthew 5:16
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I wouldn't condemn you Suzie or anyone else who makes the same choice. It's up to you and you shouldn't be attacked for it but a lot of really nasty people also wear crosses and crucifixes and even have them tattooed on their bodies.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Ya, it bothers me to see the likes of Madonna wear one, and the reason given for it. She's nasty anyway. I only wear that for jewelry. It's a tiny gold one hanging off my grandfathers melted down wedding band on a gold chain. All I wear for jewelry. I'm ALWAYS asked about it haha! One 17 yr old kid said really nasty "what's THAT??" I told her the cross on my grandfathers wedding ring... "well I guess that's ok.." I was so glad she approved...
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RainingStar:
3 months ago
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I didn't notice anyone attacking her for wearing a cross. Did I miss something?
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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I wrote a comment here about it. Did you flag me??? Haha!
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I didn't say anyone was attacking or condemning her I was just making my position clear as some people were saying it was stupid and I had expressed a negative opinion on it. I didn't want her or anyone else to take it personally. Sometimes people do start getting personal with these discussions. This one hasn't been too bad though.
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RainingStar:
3 months ago
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I see what your saying. Also in writing things are often heard in a different "tone" than the person writing it intended.
Suzie, I saw that you had responded but it was already deleted before I got to it. Did you mention another user or something like that?
Suzie, I saw that you had responded but it was already deleted before I got to it. Did you mention another user or something like that?
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Kinda like wearing a necklace of an electric chair around a group of those sentenced to death... Well... jesus wasn't the only one killed on a cross (if he even was)... Just remember you all are also worshipping what was used to kill murderers, thieves rapists, and some innocent... But... Wearing a cross is one of those things people have done for so long that they just don't think about it anymore... To me it symbolizes revenge and sometimes justice... The killing of scum... Jesus will have to say something about it if he is traumatized... Or send some kind of message...... Or has he?...
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Your_Little_Helper:
3 months ago
Those who kiss the cross... Those who nail the cross onto church walls... Crosses high above on the roofs of churches and on cars, and on people, and on coffins and on books and on and on and on and on... Enough to make one sick of that dreaded symbol... Symbols and pictures are like makeup... A little bit on a girl can highlight her features and hide a few flaws... Too much makes her look like a clown and make it awckward to look at her face...
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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You don't understand what the cross really meant and means to us.
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Your_Little_Helper:
3 months ago
I do... To an amount of people anyway... Some like to be reminded of the horrific torture this jesus guy went through to save everyone from something... I think he may of gotten it better then some of the criminals but what ever... I just think some people see it so much... And understand so little... That it means nothing an they just wear it to show thy are a so called "christian"...
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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It means Satan LOST!! We have eternal life when we ask Him into our life. He loves us so much He did this willingly, knowing full well how He would suffer. We win, Satan loses.
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Your_Little_Helper:
3 months ago
You never met god and Satan personally... You blindly choose a side... I'm assuming you were taught little about the forms of satanism and only christianity... Like everyone else...
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
EXCELLENT ANSWER!!! Bill Hicks would be proud.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
He was a stand up comedian, but his brand of comedy was like that of Lenny Bruce and modern day Lewis Black.
Look him up, find his stuff, open your mind, and listen.
Look him up, find his stuff, open your mind, and listen.
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
He died in 94 but his material still holds true.
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Good question. I'm a Christian and I never wear a cross or a crucifix. Or display one in my house or car. I think they are gruesome. It's a depiction of a murder weapon. It signifies the moment that the Devil thought he had won (boy was he in for a surprise!). If Christ had been killed by a firing squad do you suppose they would wear little toy rifles around their necks? I think that the people who do wear or display crosses and crucifixes do do to commemorate the sacrifice that he made. That he submitted willingly to an ignoble and horrific death that he didn't deserve. I think it would be better to commemorate his victory. That he was raised from the dead and at that moment the Devil knew he had lost. The Devil wants to remember the death, his moment of glory. Christians should remember he is risen. Maybe an empty tomb would be a better symbol.
On a side note: Jesus Christ didn't look anything like the wimpy guy they show hanging on the cross. He was a tough guy and he was beaten mercilessly so that he was barely recognizable as a human being.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Sorry, Satan LOST when Christ died on that cross. Why do you think He told Peter "stand behind me Satan" when Peter wanted to fight for Him? That Jesus on the cross meant death defeated. God bless!
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
YOU JD understand the comparison to wearing a rifle pendant when meeting JFK's family.
Anyone familiar with Bill Hicks knows I should have said cross instead of crucifix. They're the same thing to me.
Anyone familiar with Bill Hicks knows I should have said cross instead of crucifix. They're the same thing to me.
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Suzie: Satan did lose when he murdered Jesus Christ but he didn't know it yet. He found out when God raised Jesus Christ from the dead. Now all he can do is try to convince people that it didn't happen or keep Christians ignorant of the significance of what happened.
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strawberrygirl:
3 months ago
Many people wear the cross or crucifix as a fashion piece without concern for its symbolism or a desire to represent Christ. But that should not mean Christians can't or shouldn't wear them. Many Christians wear crosses as a proud expression of their love, respect, and service to Christ, along with a remembrance of what He did for us.
It is not for any of us to judge whether wearing a cross is proper or not; every Christian has to seek God's approval in all he does. If it is not clearly outlined in Scripture whether a practice is lawful or edifying, then the practice is one better left to each person's conscience.Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-jewelry.html#ixzz2M2diBLLl
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Oh ya, it's me suzie17 and 2016, I changed it again haha!
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strawberrygirl:
3 months ago
If you change your name, does everything get lost?
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Only if you have them remove your stiff. Which I did. It's like starting over.
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swaggness5:
3 months ago
I wear a cross. When I hear crucifix I think of a cross with a little Jesus mold form on it... The cross I a reminder to us for what he did on the cross, he great and matchless love for us all, think of it as a ring of sorts.. I don't do it for "religion" I do it to keep me in check and remember what Christ did for me on that great day
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Sharah:
3 months ago
I agree. I dont wear one, but I think most people wear them because it symbolizes Christ dying for our sins. Its all about the meaning behind the cross.
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cookieroma:
3 months ago
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I like the ones that are just the plain cross because of curse the point is that JESUS is no longer in the cross though he lives!!!!
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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Me too. Mine is tiny. I think some people think the bigger the cross the more the faith haha!
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That's better than the ones with him still hanging on it. Those depict the moment that the Devil would like to remember. When he thought he had won.
I still think that if people want to wear something around their neck they should consider an empty tomb with the stone rolled away. Rub his nose in it. I know people who wear a depiction of a Dove representing the Holy Spirit made available for every believer to have permanently in them on that day of Pentecost when they received it and from then on.
I still think that if people want to wear something around their neck they should consider an empty tomb with the stone rolled away. Rub his nose in it. I know people who wear a depiction of a Dove representing the Holy Spirit made available for every believer to have permanently in them on that day of Pentecost when they received it and from then on.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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I like your ideas! But how would a stone look? Could be an interesting way to talk about him.
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Suzie1617:
3 months ago
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And JD, Satan did not want Christ to get to that cross!
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We disagree on that Suzie. Satan wanted to kill the Messiah. Peter and others thought of Jesus as a political messiah. They didn't see the greater spiritual significance of what he was doing until later.
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swaggness5:
3 months ago
The devil thought he one tht day but he later found out that he terribly terribly lost...
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Angel_Eyes_1:
3 months ago
It is a remembrance for what He has done for us. I have one but I don't wear one.
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jumpman3215:
3 months ago
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Bill hicks
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SexySedai:
3 months ago
I said that in the details, but if you're familiar with his name and work at all I applaud you.
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jumpman3215:
2 months ago
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I understand, and he is a legend
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SexySedai:
2 months ago
Yes, yes he is.
His material still holds true...
His material still holds true...
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