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Do we need fewer clever people these days?

An Education Spokesman said he was not worried about all the illiterate and innumerate school-leavers, because we didn't need so many clever, creative people these days. What do you think?

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helixaqua

The cleverness of people are already dwindling away anyhow...kids "learning" things on Facebook and watching Reality TV! School has become a fashion show instead of an educational institute. We are doomed....we do need more clever people!

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I agree. I think he was trying to cover up the failures of the current system!!!!!!!!
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He was either being sarcastic, or is down right stupid.

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You don't have to choose! I reckon he was trying to avoid being held responsible for the mess Education is in....
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I like to think of myself as "clever", but yeah, I do sometimes feel that I am becoming "obsolete". There are a lot of bright people out there, even ones you would initially suspect as "dull", but many folks are not "Culturally literate" as per this book I read by this author who went by the last name "Hirsch". Your question actually reminds me of this 1980's Twilight Zone episode I watched about this kid named "Dickie" who did TOO well on a standardized test in some kind of dystopia. The story may have been a remake from the 1960's Twilight Zone, I don't know. Either way, it got me to think, and even freaked me out some.

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This guy also spoke of the dumbing down" of the Education system - which, quite frankly, I found offensive. I am old and biased, I know - but the current way of spelling and tweeting is wrecking our beautiful language.
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Think of all the individuals deemed as "failures" and "illiterates" by society that have contributed to the happiness and well being of millions of people world wide. Ex. Lucille Ball, Abraham Lincoln, Walt Disney, Winston Churchill, Flip Wilson, scientists (unable to recall their names (specifically astronauts), etc. We need such individuals more now than anytime in history.

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I forgot who first said "What use is a new-born baby?" - everyone has a lifetime to shine and who knows what wonders are possible in everyone you meet? But I also believe with a passion that EVERY child deserves to be educated to a minimum standard of compentecy in reading, writing and arithmetic. If the pupil hasn't learned, then the teacher hasn't taught!!! But I also believe that teachers have the toughest jobs in the world when there are so many distractions to learning....
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Once having taught, I agree every student should have the opportunity to learn. There is a lot of "deadwood" in the system that needs to be cleaned out. Unfortunately, the dropout rate of teachers is nine out of ten beginning teachers quit within ten years. Low pay, long hours, and in many cases insurmountable of "hats" to be worn throughout the school year. Unfortunately, as well, 7,000 students dropout of High School per day. It takes a tribe to educate/raise a child: Parents, Students, Teachers, and Administration all working towards a common goal.
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I think the educational speaker was an idiot

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You're not allowed to say that - you might hurt someone's feelings! But it's quite O.K. to let a school-leaver loose in our society without the basic skills to get a job and count their wages. This idiot is covering his @rse to divert attention away from the failure of our Education system IMO....
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If by clever, we mean in the traditional success-winning sense, David Orr's words do nicely: "The planet does not need more 'successful' people. But it does desperately need more peacemakers, healers, restorers, storytellers, and lovers of every shape and form. It needs people of moral courage willing to join the fight to make the world habitable and humane. And these needs have little to do with success as our culture has defined it."

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Actually Buckminster Fuller has it: "We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian-Darwinian theory, he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living."
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You are probably right, but it IS important that everyone is able to receive a living income to allow them to develop their full potential. The politicians have made jobs as scarce as hen's teeth, so we need another way to share the wealth in our great nation. With 2% of the populace holding 80% of the wealth, a fair and balanced economy is an unattainable myth....
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It certainly is unimaginable from our current position, but that doesn't make it impossible. Humanity is so young, after all.
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wickedpissah

Which "education spokesman" said this?

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I didn't catch his name, but he was pontificating on national radio this morning when he launched into the reasons they have to have "dumbing down" in the education system. All I heard was an over-paid incompetent trying to excuse the failures he and his cronies have made of our Education system. All this fancy theory in learning is twaddle. Kids NEED reading, writing and arithmetic or they are social cripples. You cannot escape that basic need in our modern society!!!
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America certainly has been dumbed down. Absolutely.
But I wouldn't lay the blame on the educators.
I'd blame the law makers and the administrators who expect more to be done every year while cutting education budgets down to the bone.
I'd also blame the parents who use the TV and the internet as a babysitter.
Kids are in school for less than 1/8 of the year. One-Eighth!
The parents and the society have those kids for 7/8ths of the time.
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I think if we didn't have as many clever people, then a few corrupt clever people would take over the masses of dumb uneducated people :) Cleverness means you use your brain, using your brain and thinking are never bad things! The truth will set you free :)

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VERY interesting angle on this discussion. Thank you for your input. You realise that is already happening in USA? The fat cats prevail and everyone else pays the cost - it is hard to fight back without the odd billion or two to fight with....
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That is actually what I had in mind when I wrote that. Noneducational can be a dangerous thing these days.
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