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despite george washington warning about political parties we still use this system. why?

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If the founding fathers could see how this government treats it's citizens and operates,they would s#it.

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Maybe they would revolt. Things are pretty revolting.
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So right.. We went to the dogs
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ClaraListensprechen
Specifically, the dogs in the House.
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because our government decided it was the best system

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no one can think of anything better

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I think because the system has ended up working best for the government and greed has taken over in the form of special interest groups. Sad!

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In short, corruption.

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It is always better to have two opposing partings, if not more. That's why diversity is better in business and life. If you surround yourself with people who all think alike, you'll never hear an opposing view. In politics, if you didn't have a two party system, then you'd have a single mindset running the country and there would be no input on doing things differently.

Now...having said that....you need two parties that can agree and compromise on laws that hold value for the benefit of the country as oppose to an ideological agenda. We seem to be missing that part.

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Two parties that rubberstamp each other is no good. We need more than just two corrupt parties.
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I hardly think our two existing parties "rubber stamp" each other and while I wouldn't call then totally funcional, I wouldn't call them corrupt. We need at least two parties. Three or more would be confusing for he most part.





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You mean to tell me you're actually snookered into believing that it is NOT the case that the current sequester debacle was proposed by both parties, passed by both parties, and signed by the chief executive of one of the parties? What else do you swallow?
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Ole George was a visionary. He was also a loyal brit supporter and Kings man - right up until the time he wasnt anymore. He actually WANTED to be refered to as 'King' and 'Your Highness'. Luckily the vote was for the title of 'president' eventually.
For all his intelligence and contributions to the formation of a free United States, ole Geo was pretty much an harsh, arrogant pig too.

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Really? Where did you get this information? I've never heard that he wanted to be King or addressed as your highness. That sounds like something from a video game.
Please provide some evidence for your assertions.
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Read biographies about him and how he did things. They teach us the sanitized ideal in school but the truth is our leaders, while great leadwes, were flawed humans like the rest of us. They were elitists who often treated people arrogantly and patronizingly, who were concieved as beneath them (sound familar), own slaves and slept with them, the idea to form the United States came only after LONG debate because many of the men involved were loyal to Britain and took them a long time to decide to break away. THAT is only part of the real history they dont teach us in school.
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I've read quite a bit about George Washington. I realize that in school we are taught a sanitized version of history and that the Founding Fathers were not perfect. I have even heard that he was offered the title and position of King and turned it down. This has not been verified though. I have never heard or read that he insisted on or even preferred to be addressed as "your highness" or desired to be King. That would be interesting because we would have gone from King George of England to King George of The United States. If you could provide some reference it would be greatly appreciated.
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1.Government Of the people/By the people and For the people!
.....in the pursuit of happines!.......

2.God is no longer in the schools/ nor in the Government/ is Now out of the military/ (almost out of out churches)
/out of our family devotions....
So why should He answer any questions in the form of prayer !



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I agree
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And we're all the better for that. We could improve by making the separation of church and state absolute.
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Winston Churchill said of Democracy, "It isn't perfect but it's the best system we have." The same could be said for political parties.

They are open to corruption and political chicanery, and they control the votes of individual members elected to represent local constituents; but they allow like-minded (well, similar-minded) representatives to band together in order to push legislation through Congress.

Without political parties it would be necessary for any individual congressman to spend the whole of his time trying to gather support for his/her proposals. And with the number of power-groups in any community, each with their own agenda, it would become even more corrupt than the party system.

The voter's interests would, of course, only be considered when it was necessary to secure votes to remain in office ... just like under the present system.

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We can have a better country without the corrupt 2 parties. We need more parties where each serve as watchdog of the other. The more the better.
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Sounds good Clara but it doesn't seem to work out very well. In Oz we have two main parties, roughly akin to your own, and over the years we've had several other parties that have lasted a few years, even a couple of decades, but the same two parties are the only two that ever hold the government.
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Then your system is just as rigged as ours is. That's the part that needs repair. Bigtime.
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Oh, yeah. I didn't say it was better. Just threw it in as a comparison.
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George Washington did warn against what he called factions. We call them political parties. I'm not sure what things would be like if we had no political parties.Things are kind of a mess with them.

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He wanted LESS government and more BY the PEOPLE.
This is the motto for SUCCESS.

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Our government was designed to be the people. Small government loonies that want small government want a small number of people. So secede already. Bubbye and good riddance.
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