Well , ,,,,, if any nurse at this home
Has CPR training , and does not administer it, they can and should be held liable for any death,
However , if they are not trained for
That purpose , there is nothing
Anyone can do. And CPR on an older person could lead to broken ribs
- that's all I can think of -
if I know CPR and try to help, however
that person dies , I am not liable ,
I am protected by the Good Samaritan act
Because if they die then it's a liability issue. Just like how teachers aren't allowed to touch kids if they get stuck in a tree or on the monkey bars.
If one knows CPR - they are expected to assist - and if one dies -
The Good Samaritan act is there to protect people that try to help . But still fail ,
Or commenting on the answer?
The reason we are here now
Try re reading it
Nothing tells me she knew -
She's a nurse - it's an assumption
Not acting would be worse-
The question said nothing of such a policy -
You are correct !
My apology !
Or be up to date on CPR training .
Because even with this policy,
If they know CPR and are current on training - it's one obligation to administer -or legal action could follow.
There could be lots of reasons for this rule even though it does seem unfair and wrong. One of the reasons could be protecting the workers from diseases and viruses.
I was under the impression (maybe wrong I guess) that the act of anyone knowing CPR and does not assist is illegal itself.
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I think the same thing Proudmomma said.
If the patient has provided the nursing home with a "Living Will", which contains a "Do not resuscitate" clause", I would say the choice lies with the patient.
It's a matter of liability and you can thank our legal system for such a policy. They stay out of trouble by following the company policy and not intervening. If a nurse jumped in and the resident died anyway, a lawyer could argue that they were responsible and now liable for a large dollar compensation. By sticking to the policy, the company is not responsible and the poor lady died. Don't blame the nursing home. Blame the lawyers who are chasing ambulances and looking for a quick buck.
The facility did not ask the woman helping to sign a waiver releasing the place from all responsibility no matter what happened
It was not a nursing home. It was an independent living facility. This place is like a hotel or apartments with a dining hall. They are not a medical facility. The woman who collapsed was 87, if you are not extremely careful performing CPR on a patient that old, whose bones are mostly likely very brittle, you may be doing more damage than good. The elderly woman and her family were aware of the policy going into this facility. Yes it is a very sad situation, but until you know all the facts you can not pass judgment.
It depends on if the patient has an order called a DNR and opt for no lifesaving care. If they have a doctors order they just allow the patient to go through the natural death process.
A lot of folks have themselves as "Do Not Resuscitate" for religious reasons, might be a religious nursing home
Hi Suzie I was shocked of the news when I heard it. I guess the home where this elderly lady lived has rules to abide by and cannot be broken. I can understand this but I I was put in a situation like that then it would be a moral decision to help this woman even if it cost me my job. Everyone has different views of what they would do but if I didn't do my darnedest to help this person I might still have a job but my conscience would eat me alive for the rest of my life. It doesn't matter the age of the person that past away. We are all human beings
This is what we get for being a litigious society. However, that does not release that nurse from her professional and moral obligation to save that life (unless there was a DNR on file -- which there wasn't.) Her refusal to save that woman's life is similar to the excuses given by Nazis at the Nuremberg Trials; that they were only following orders. This is simply disgusting!
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2727.5. Liability for emergency care
A person licensed under this chapter who in good faith renders emergency care at the scene of an emergency which occurs outside both the place and the course of that person's employment shall not be liable for any civil damages as the result of acts or omissions by that person in rendering the emergency care.
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My sister-in-law also said that in a court of law the determination of a nurse's liability hinges on a determination of "reasonable and prudent practice". Not administering CPR, I would think, would be in violation of a nurse's "reasonable and prudent practice".
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Like others have mentioned ... This is not hospital policy as much as it is the wishes of the patients. They have requested a "do not resuscitate" order.
Are you sure you aren't mistaking a DNR order on certain patients rather than an across the board order? If it is a hospice wing there is no CPR given per the DNR orders.
And it's ones obligation to help when and if they can- like if one is chocking
At a restaurant - are we not to administer help ?
Because they may choke n die-