A bar is private property, so the owner is within his rights to toss you out for that kind of behavior. You can legally even be arrested for disturbing the peace.
It's just obnoxious. If people are interested in your religion they will seek it out. It's not like anyone in America hasn't heard of it. You just make yourselves a nuisance by badgering people who are trying to go about their day or, in this case, relax.
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Is the pastor's guitar a magic entrancement device that will cause bar patrons to drop their libations to repent?..... I thought not. There are surely enough churches for zealots to spread their beliefs, leave the bars alone.
If he has permission from the bar owner and doesnt drink sure. In at least one place some people actually use a bar to hold a church service on Sunday when its not normally open. No alcohol served of course.
It's bad enough when I'm sitting at the beach and have to listen to some idiot screaming out his fire and brimstone message for all to hear. He being on public property (The sidewalk) not much can be done to stop him. But I'm afraid if he came into an establishment such as a restaurant or bar I was patronizing, I would either expect the owner to boot his butt out and if he didn't, I would leave and not come back to that business. It is extremely annoying to have to listen to and an interruption of my day and relaxation.
Skeptikitten said it best. It is okay as long atheists can come into churches and sing about how gods don't exist. The owners of the church would have the same right to have us removed as the bar owner has to remove the Christian proselytizers.
When Jesus was witnessed by the Pharisees to be eating with tax collectors and sinners He stated as follows: . Mark 2:17 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. . Furthermore, we are told the following: . Mark 16:15 King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Of course we must not forget the most important commandment, to love. Out of love we should respect the owner and the patrons of the establishments wishes. Besides we a further told as follows . 12 And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. . So in short yes, if the establishment is receptive. God bless.
It's good that your pastor wants to help people to be spiritually inclined. However notice what it says at Matthew 24:13,14, "But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth." No one is truly saved until they've endured to the end. God is the judge of who gets saved (Isaiah 33:22).
Did you also notice what it said in verse 14? The "good news of the kingdom should be preached." We should be speaking to people, going house to house, just as Jesus did to talk about God's Kingdom. While songs are nice, sitting with someone and having a Bible discusses yields richer results.
So what is the "good news othe kingdom"? Here are some scriptures that discuss what God's Kingdom will do: Remove the wicked, whose selfishness harms us all. —Proverbs 2:22. End all wars.–Psalm 46:9. Bring prosperity and security to the earth. —Micah 4:4 Make the earth into a paradise.—Isaiah 35:1 Provide everyone with meaningful, enjoyable work. —Isaiah 65:21-23. Eliminate disease. —Isaiah 33:24. Set us free from the aging process. —Job 33:25. Bring the dead back to life.—John 5:28, 29.
Betty, Thanks For This Question. Followers of Jesus Christ O f Nazareth A r e Taught That Evangelism Is Expected: However, Allow Holy Spirit 2 Lead/Guide So T h a t Every- One's B e s t Inter e s t Is Served. Go Fishing 4 Souls. Lol. ------------------------------- Scripture Quote ------------------------------- 18 "For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon !' 19 "The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Behold, a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners !' Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds." --------------------------Matthew 11:18-19 ------------------------------------------ Scripture Quote 2 -------------------------------- But when He heard this, He said, "Those who are well don't need a doctor, but the sick do. Go and learn what this means: I desire mercy and not sacrifice. For I didn't come to call the righteous, but sinners." (Matthew 9:12, 13 HCSB)
I agree with TTaylor. I seriously doubt that in a bar full of drunk people he's going to get many people to pay attention. Songs are nice, but the best way to teach people is by sitting down and actually opening the Bible.
If you do then you need to accept that you and your beliefs will be criticized... The majority of people there will most likely be annoyed and you will probably be asked to leave... A few may argue with you and expect you to come back with good valid arguments... One or two might enjoy it... Good luck...