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Is the victim of any crime ever to blame for being a victim?

I'm mainly asking opinions about victim blaming of rape and assault victims, but what about for other crimes. I don't personally think so, but I want to see what my fellow askers think.

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FunnyLittleFrog

They may have been foolish in their actions, but in the end the responsibility for what a person does harming someone else lies with them.

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Good answer! Is that your doggie?
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Well, I suppose if you are walking around drunkenly at 2AM and flashing a big roll of hundreds, you could bear SOME responsibility for what happens...

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Suicide-by-cop, maybe.

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There may be a very small # of crimes where the victim is to blame. The drug dealer that gets shot from dealing with shady people etc. But I don't think you can ever blame a girl for getting raped. ppl say
'she shouldn't have drank so much' shouldn't have wore that' but counting my 1/2 sister and step I have 5 sisters and growing up would often get into fights over dudes trying to get girls fallin down drunk just to have a chance. Me and friends have -corrected this behavior a few times.

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Some would say Mike Tyson got a raw deal when the rape victim went to his hotel room in the middle of the nite and in the middle of relations "changed her mind".

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Very good point. It's too bad that so much of our society automatically discounts this valid argument without weighing the common sense that is obviously a huge factor. Saying "yes" 20 times and then all of the sudden "no" with the expectation of immediate compliance? Foolishness.
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but if somebody decided early in the night they might wanna do it later, but it comes time, and they don't, they shouldn't have to
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Not really

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Yes, sometimes. If I stand in the middle of a gang and start cussing at them racial epitaphs, it may be a little bit my fault for getting shot. If I wave a chocolate revolver around a group of cops, it may be a little bit my fault for getting shot. If I boast about my wallet full of hundreds in front of a group of convicted robbers, it may be a little bit my fault for getting robbed. If I get undressed and get involved in petting with my "lover", it may be a little bit my fault I was raped. If I drive 200 miles per hour and am in a head-on collision with a vehicle in my lane because I had no time to react, it may be a little bit my fault for getting killed. Just because someone else might have been the primary "actor", does not necessarily excuse my contributing actions. If evidence and/or common sense would suggest that certain actions would lead someone else to certain undesirable actions, the responsibility is borne by both/all parties contributing.

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I agree except for the rape thing, but i do see your point
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No means no! Not MAYBE, not I want you to ravage me, it means NO...PERIOD!!!
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Don't get me wrong, I completely understand that point of view and I agree that "no" means "no". But as another answerer pointed out, there is something to be said for those instances where an evil person who plays games with others or who is looking for an opportunity to do someone else harm by leading them on to a trap. For instance, I know personally 4 men who are ALL in prison because of one mature looking 17 year olds game to put them all behind bars. Why? Because she led them all individually to believe that she was of age (to the point of making a false id) for the sole purpose of nailing men (whom she hates because she's a sexist) with statutory rape. She is the perpetrator who pretends to be the victim in order to be evil. Did the men do wrong? Yes, albeit unintentionally. Who deserves to go to prison? In my opinion, she does, not them, because she is the evil one.
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Another example would be the one who leads another to the point of already being fully into it, only to "change her mind" and CLAIM rape in order to have a lawsuit or do the famous or rich person (or whoever else) harm. Rare? Yes. Does it happen? Yes. Timeline able to be proven? Nope. It is definitely arguable that there should be a certain point where "no" is no longer a possibility and therefore the responsibility of BOTH people for letting it get as far as it did of their cooperative volition.
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so just because somebody is famous, they can do no harm?
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If someone breaks into your home and you kill them, in some places, you will be charged with murder. They are the victim.
If you use excessive force against someone, they are the victim.

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That's just senseless, isn't it? I would move to a place where the "powers that be" had more sense.
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no way, that's ludicrous.

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Of course not. But if one is abused over and over then they need to take action for their safety. When he hits it's just a matter of time before she is killed.

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great to see somebody getting it out that violence in relationships rarely stops
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Yup, it escalates.
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If you choose to Do something to people for no reason you deserve the consequences of your actions!

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