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Why do so many have difficulty grasping the Bible's message and meaning?

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It's likely you're confusing your opinion that people don't grasp the message and meaning, with people who don't believe the message.

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Exactly Raven *<]:0)
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Yup
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Some people don't believe in it and that's completely okay.

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No,its not the end is near make your desicion pleeeeze 4u:-(
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I'm a Christian, I've already made a decision and atheists have made theirs and there is nothing wrong with that.
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All othere need Jesus 2 some wont accpt but there r those that will.
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It's not that we have trouble grasping the message. Some of us are able to recognize made up fairy tales when we see them. Everybody clings to whatever they need to get them through. Some of us prefer reality.

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Because it's contradictory, unproven, and fear mongering indoctrination propaganda, written by primitive minds.

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And see, your answer proves you grasp the meaning and message of the bible.
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A lobotomy, probably. Those of us who have studied the text and the surrounding history extensively and have seen how untenable it is won't be convinced by scripture quotes and bad apologetics, and that's all I've ever seen here.
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Yes, because your juvenile response here is so compelling.
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Given the option between a conversion and a lobotomy, I'd choose the lobotomy. Besides, were I believer in your god, I wouldn't worship it. Your god is a spiteful and jealous tyrant. You're advised to be satisfied with my *lack* of belief.
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A lot of people see it as something irrational, and see many other things as a much more believable solution

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Since the bible is contradictory, historically and scientifically inaccurate, contains clear mythology, and is unsound ethically, I think atheists actually grasp the meaning better than most believers.

The bible isn't difficult to grasp, and it's silly to imply that just because over half the world discards it they must not understand it.

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Godisone
You are an opinion....
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People aren't opinions, dear. Speak English.
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Ironically for you, god1, Skeptikittens opinion also happens to be fact.
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Godisone
Skeptikitten you have always been an opinion to.....
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G..., lol, Then who's opinion is she?
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Grasping it, is why I and many others are atheist.
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I really hope English isn't his first language. This is getting a bit sad.
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Go kitten ! Go
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Godisone
Are you people always looking for a fight?
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That's what your type always asks when they blunder an exchange of words.
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I', never going to leave this place...I like all you people already
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Many do not believe it is the infallible word of God; some over analyze the simple messages within the pages. Then there are those who feel it is out dated for todays man. They forget every one needs to pray and ask for guidance from the Holy Ghost to understand the simplicity of Gods Holy Bible.

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I thought about answering but It would look like I am copying you. Good answer
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Your last sentence is complete nonsense, Jerusalem. Just because there are those who don't believe your ancient holy book doesn't mean they don't understand it. You are hilariously unqualified to state what "everyone needs". The boundless condescension of your ilk never ceases to amaze.
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As a chaplain I feel qualified to answer these questions.
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These questions, certainly. Determining what "everyone needs", not even a little. Chaplain or not. Archbishop or not. Everyone is different, believes differently and it's as real and credible to each of them as your faith is to you. Your responses are prejudiced and condescending, Mr Chaplain, and your status as one only clarifies why that is.
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Actually I find it is the Christians that over alkalize the bible, they use things that are not prophecy to prove Jesus fulfilled them, like "Born of a woman", Aren't we all born of a woman. Bobby posted 40 prophecies that Jesus fulfilled, and not one of them were accurate or even applied to Jesus at all, some were not prophetic in any way, Christians just want them to be.
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Jerusalem - God Himself is VERY qualified to state that "everyone needs". And God has revealed that very thing (Praying and asking for guidance to understand) is indeed needed to help us understand ANY of the Bible. Thank you for getting that message out to us all...

TheZ, in his cutting remarks, is not only being condescending himself, but coming across as very arrogant - a "know-it-all"...
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Really, so MrZ stating that everyone is different and has different needs is arrogant and condescending ?
A narrow minded, bigoted, religious fanatic would think so.
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Whatever...
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You can't believe everything you read. Not to mention, the Catholics (King James), is different from the Mormon, which is different from the Lutheran, different from the Baptist, etc.

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I think the issue revolves around the fact that people don't agree with the message and meaning.

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Probably right. And many people don't WANT to agree with it - want to make up their OWN mind how to live...
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That would be their choice.
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It's perfectly easy.

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ROMANS 1...........
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

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The Bible was written by many different men and doesn't have a "contiguous" line of thought or reasoning.

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I understand both-
Just can not agree-
Way way way - to many flaws -
Science explains all !

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Lol what.
*looks at name and picture*
Oh snap....
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Heh
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You're not supposed to understand the Bible. If you could, then you wouldn't have any need for that guy at the front of the church with the funny collar and his hand reaching for your wallet. No seriously, I think people have a lot easier time accepting the principles that Jesus taught, than they do believing the things people have said about Jesus (e.g Paul who murdered the early followers of Jesus). The Bible itself says that God's words were twisted and personal views were added by many (Jeremiah 8:8). There are many contradictions in the Bible and there are also many unscientific verses, which i could quote for you if you want. But of course, this is your salvation. So, I must respect it.

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I do understand the Bible I consider myself one of a kind...but without Jesus I am nothing.
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Too bad you don't think a little more of yourself, Godisone.
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I understand the bible and have no need for the guy in the front of church. In fact many of them do not interpret the bible right. I believe if more knew the true meaning more would believe.
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Suzie, you havent read my full answer. People do understand the Bible, it's just that they dont accept it simply because it is filled with contradictions and unscientific errors.
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Momo004,You said something about Jer.8:8 that Gods words were twisted? Did you read on to verse 9 The wise will be put to shame;they will be dismayed and trapped.Since they HAVE REJECTED THE WORD OF GOD WHAT KIND OF WISDOM DO THEY HAVE.The Bible wouldnf talk against itself Jesus...
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It's filled with unscientific errors in it. I mean come on, you and i both know that the moon does not have its own light, that the earth is not flat, that bats are not birds ect...
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Wouldnt talk agaist Himself.Why r u reading the Bible anyways and ur a Moslem?R u an impostor to the Christians? have you read this one? john 5:38-40 Nor does His word dwell in you,for you do not believe the One He sent.You diligently study the scriptures bcuz you think that by them u possess eternal life.These r the scriptures that testify about Me yet YOU DEFUSE TO COME TO ME TO HAVE LIFE.
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* refuse
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Hey, im not the one that believes that the earth is flat. ;)
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The Z,Ecclesisiatic 7:20 says there is no one righteous on earth who does what is right and never sins.Without Jesus we nothing it doesnt mean u dont value hourself it just means u humbled yourself to the realazation of ur creator.
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miyasims...don't stop your doing fine, I'm with you.
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It still doesnt change the fact that the Bible is fillef with contradictions and errors. Good night! ;)
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Huh?I dont believe the earth is flat Momo004.God is the creator of all things in our earth.If you think the Bible is fake dont read it what r u looking for in it?U still have answered me why youre reading it!Christians arent dumb bcuz we believe in the truth and not WHAT U WANT US TO BELIEVE.If Columbus had of read the Bible he would have known the earth was round ask God He created it.
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Because it sounds too much like opinion instead of truth?

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Only those who know the truth.
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Reading and understanding the bible with a clear mind is exactly why I don't believe any of it and it's part of what makes me an atheist. Considering how many christian denominations there are, I doubt you really understand the "truth" that you think is in the bible.

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Because the truth is in me, I'm going to be nice to you.
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Who can you, or anyone know it's the truth in you.
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It's a calling and a belief from God Himself.
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Strange but true, that I have found people inflicted with dyspepsia often claim such calling!! That is probably why all such claims of callings and inspirations have their roots primarily in the mental asylums!! It is amazing how the insane always insist on being sane!!
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Many misinterpret it. That includes leaders of congregations.

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Absolutely true. No one human has complete understanding. I think that's why "WE" have the mind of Christ. We all provide different facets of what God's saying...
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The same reason why you "have difficulty grasping the Koran's message and meaning"!! The moment you will understand your reasons to reject the the Hindu sacred scripture Geeta, you will instantly know (unless you are credulous) why so many reject your bible!!

However, is it not too much to impose that a God, who created the human understanding, could not produce a book that would be compatible with human brain? If god created both my brain and the bible, then whose fault do you think it is that my my brain cannot agree with the bible? I, for one, am not vague enough to believe what I understand the bible to say, is what the bible actually says. I am amazed that there is still any person (as you) on earth credulous enough to believe that his, or her, grasping of the bible is the correct one; that he or she alone, somehow, has stumbled upon the true message of the Bible, while all the other believers, non-believers, ministers, priests, scholars and philosophers have misinterpreted and misunderstood the message and meaning of the bible!!

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Cause they have not the Spirit God who teaches them and gives them guidance

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He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn?t looking for him and doesn?t recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now and later will be in you. (John 14:17 NLT)=================================But we belong to God, and those who know God listen to us. If they do not belong to God, they do not listen to us. That is how we know if someone has the Spirit of truth or the spirit of deception. (1 John 4:6 NLT)=================================And we have received God?s Spirit (not the world?s spirit), so we can know the wonderful things God has freely given us. When we tell you these things, we do not use words that come from human wisdom. Instead, we speak words given to us by the Spirit, using the Spirit?s words to explain spiritual truths. But people who aren?t spiritual can?t receive these truths from God?s Spirit. It all sounds foolish to them and they can?t understand it, for only those who are spiritual can understand what the Spirit means. Those who are spiritual can evaluate all things, but they themselves cannot be evaluated by others. (1 Corinthians 2:12-15 NLT)=============Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don?t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don?t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. (2 Corinthians 4:4 NLT)

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I can add one more reason to the many found in these answers: lack of humility. Unless we are humble and teachable, we will not let ourselves be taught. James 4:8 says "Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you." It takes humility to do this.

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Believing that you are so special that an all-powerful deity cares about you personally is the least humble belief on the market.
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Nicely said, paisley!
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Really good point, Paisley!
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Romans 1:19-20 declares plainly that all men do know God exists because God has clearly revealed that knowledge to them through the evidence of creation. Those that deny God are doing so out of the rebellion of a darkened heart (Romans 1:21).


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"In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God" (2 Corinthians 4:4). Paul refers to Satan as the "god of this world." Extraordinarily evil (John 8:44), Satan destroys the flesh (1 Corinthians 5:5), masquerades as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14), and is the cause of all temptations (Luke 4:2; Hebrews 4:15; 1 Corinthians 7:5). He revels in scheming against and trapping the unbelievers (2 Corinthians 2:11; Ephesians 6:11; 2 Timothy 2:26). Satan's goal is to devour the weak who fall prey to temptation, fear, loneliness, worry, depression, and persecution (1 Peter 5:8-9).Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/spiritual-blindness.html#ixzz2Mxz6u9Vp
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Ahhhh. The discussion of religions. Religions are man-made. The connection I have with my Higher Power, whom I chose to call God, is a spiritual one. That's God-made. I believe many of us have that spiritual connection, we just worship with humans that do their best to interpret their Higher Power's meaning of life and how it should be led for whatever their motives may be. As far as why some find it so hard to hear "The Word" (in whatever the faith) and take it to heart is because to hear and to take it in, would mean to do the type of introspection that is too painful to deal with. Some just do not believe. That is ok, too. All I can say is that many who "don't believe", in their deepest pain, call out or pray to something which they don't understand, for help. I feel it's in that necessary darkest moment, and (at times) the outcome of some prayers that helps bring them closer to a spiritual life. Forcing a viewpoint on someone would only push them further from the experience that their Higher Power might want for them. ...just my opinion.

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Hard to understand that particular Book without knowing the Author...

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excellent answer
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Because people always need evidence. However there's not evidence for everything.

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MarSch, makes a good point, however not in line with what I'm going to point out. The bible is made up of 66 books (more if you're catholic), yet less then 25% has a known writer. The only books they can't truly attribute to any one is Paul, and Ezra (and even those 2 are questionable as historic people). The rest nobody really has any idea who wrote it and the ones they are attributed to such as Moses, are not even historical people. The stories (especially the OT) are handed down verbal stories from around the region, then adapted to fit the Hebrew story as history. The NT has a similar problem that the writers took messianic stories from older man/gods and adapted them to fit the Hebrew traditions.

So it is impossible to know the author of any part of the bible.

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Notice I spelled "Author" with a capital A. I meant the Author as God, who gave the inspiration for each book...
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I understand, that is why I made the statement "not in line with what I'm going to point out". I know all christians say that God is the author of the bible, through his "inspired" writers.
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1 Corinthians 1:20-21. " So what about these wise men, these scholars, these brilliant debaters of this world's great affairs? God has made them all look foolish, and shows their wisdom to be useless nonsense. For God in his wisdom saw to it that the world would never find God through human brilliance, and then he stepped in and saved all those who believed his message, which the world calls foolish and silly." (Living Bible)

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Boy, the living bible sure does explain that in an understandable way! Thanks for listing it!
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You are very welcome!!
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Becuase it doesnt make any sense

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So you DO grasp the message.
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Ppl may the Bible has flaws and isnt true...okay yo opinion but it is the ONLY book that predict the end where will u be then?
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The Holy Ghost opens our understanding if you know God in a personal way and really want to know Him you will get revelations!I mean,the Koran is easy to understand fo me its easy its shows hate,violence and allah is a false god of hate.So why couldnt you see the Bible as loove?

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