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19 year old blind, deaf poodle. seizures, and arthritis. wants to fight when other dog comes up behind her. Is it time to put her down.

19 year old deaf and blind poodle. Does not bark, arthritis and seizures. wants to fight if startled by another dog. should i put her down.

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I believe only you or the owner can make this call. You know that the seizures and arthritis are making her life unbearable, and the blindness only exacerbates the situation. Search within yourself and decide what is best for her.

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Sometimes when you love someone or well in this case a dog you have to put your own wants and feelings aside and focus on what is best for the little guy. Is he happy? Does he enjoy his life? or is he in pain, confusion, and scared ? We had a dog that went blind from a brain tumor (inoperable) and the vet said she would be fine for awhile but @ her 1st seizure we did the only thing we could do because we loved her enough to not let her suffer.

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Thank you. She stays confused and has become incontinent and I don't want her to suffer anymore.


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That is how you show how much you really love someone is to not force them to stay for your sake but you let them go for their sake. It is very hard but I held our dog until the vet said she was gone. It made the dog feel safe in my arms. I am so sorry for your family....
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I wouldn't put her down but don't get unnecessary surgeries and stuff to save her let it be natural but its your call

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I am so sorry to hear this, I have just lost my dog last year. I chose him when I was 3 and now I'm 15 and he had to be put down due to kidney failure. I hope you make the right choice. Good luck and I hope you feel better. None of us will live forever. She/he will be in a better place

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Sorry you lost your buddy... am sure he would thank you for not letting him suffer if he could.
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put her down. if u were blind, deaf, had arthritus, and has seizures im pretty sure u wouldnt want to be alive. so why would the dog

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I wouldn't. We've had to, but only when the pet was in pain, with nothing that could alleviate it and a terminal condition.
But, blind and deaf is nothing. She can manage with that, for years, if you don't move the furniture around or have kids running in the house (which is dangerous all by itself). Ours managed fine for 6 years, deaf, blind, and arthritis -- which we treated so she wasn't in pain and could move better (vet can give shots for that, like for people). So, for the first 3 you can let her deal with it, very well, with vet shots.
The other dog surprising her? Well, give her a crate (left open) that she can sleep in, without being snuck up on. All she is doing is telling the other dog "stop sneaking up on me, I don't like it." That's a reasonable response, I would say.
The seizures - what's causing that?
Diabetes? Very treatable. Epilepsy? Also very treatable. Have you asked the vet about tests for a specific diagnosis/treatment?
Seizures don't cause the -dog- any pain at all, because she's unconscious or if they are small seizures she is at most semi-conscious. The only person suffering during seizures is the human watching helplessly.
Find out what is causing the seizures and if they can be controlled by something simple.
Once you have looked into these issues with a vet, you may be able to help your dog enjoy her last months or years. She is 19, so she doesn't have much time left. If she still enjoys being petted and cuddled, she's probably still able to enjoy a dog's life, with your help.
-- Please don't give up on her without trying to do for her what you would do for any other member of your family!

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Good points, but what would you do if it was to the point of pain and not treatable?
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We did have to deal with that, a couple of times, unfortunately.
We have had terminal cases. We helped alleviate pain with shots from the vet (worked well), and they were able to enjoy petting, being with us, lying in the sun, and enjoy a bit of play. But once the pain was no longer controllable (no enjoyment capability left), we had to put them out of any misery. Usually, however, something else (usually heart) took them peacefully, but it's always hard to make that final decision for another creature.
I'm quick to urge people not to judge life/death without examining all options first, and repay their pets loyalty even if it's messy for a while for the human.
I've seen people put down lovely otherwise-healthy older dogs, simply because the dog developed diabetes and was peeing all over the house. A shockingly simple treatment (it's usually 1 teeny shot a day!) and a different dog food, and that dog would have stopped peeing around the house and lived many more happy years!
We just believe that if help is available, it should be provided. I don't believe in euthanasia when it's really the human that is bothered or inconvenienced the most by their pet's troubles.
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Morning chou.:-)
Totally agree with you, if there are ways to keep pet comfy and just deal with messy stuff. My last 115lb Sheppard became totally lame and incontinent at 12 years old and on top of that developed a Autoimune disease(Pemphigus) and lost most of his beautifull fur. The poor guy was miserable and considering his age we considered putting him down. We were lucky enough to have some of the best Vets around in New Jersey and CHOSE TO afford other options; long story short, MRI-Spinal Surgery-lots of TLC, and within 3 hrs of surgery he was "up" and walking, within 2 months his fur was back! And he lived another full Healthy 3 years!:-). His case was extreme, and had we not had those resources and $$( Very Costly!) we likely would have put him down since he was in pain and extremely uncomfortable. Then there have been others both Cats and Dogs which as you said were simpler cases of treating Diabetis or Thyriod issues(Cat-radiated, lived to 24!), and those which we had to chose to put down. Always a tough choice.. and can be super hard to know just when and if right...but usually the Animal will let you know; it's a matter of recognizing when the Pet wants to "fight" and when it's just durn tired and had enough.
Don't wish this choice on anyone but being able to provide it is when really right is one of the kind things we can do for a Animal which has given us so much.
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Hi Witt!
So many stories like that! So true, everything you said.
I started to type one of our recents, where we lost a lovely sweet cat recently to breast cancer that had metastasized before we even knew she had anything.
Long story short, she only lived a few months more after diagnosis, but since treatment would have only prolonged her life a little bit (they removed what they could, but no chance of cure, way way too far gone), we decided that chemo and rad would just make her miserable for the time she had left.
And she amazingly did have a good bouncy time and showed no sign of pain even up to the end. Her only difficulty was in the last couple of weeks, when she became short of breath while playing (she was still playing the night before she died!) or climbing stairs. Vet couldn't see any signs of pain, but the lungs were being effected. We watched her carefully, to make sure she wasn't in any distress (in which case ...) but thankfully she just went rather quickly one morning (vet said probably heart) after breakfast and coming up for a cuddle. Only 14, but she was a blessedly memorable little girl.
We had to change our routines to help her and keep watch, alter diet for everybody so she could keep food down better, clean up way more from accidents (she was so embarrassed when it happened), cover furniture and add new lower-down cat beds so she could sleep where she could get up without leaping, and of course vet bills when money is really tight. But how could we do any less? They are family.
The ones where we had to make the awful decision, I don't even want to talk about. Except that we are lucky to have a special vet service in Chicago that will make house calls for it, which is a small blessing.
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Good Morning Chou!
Your Cat story at once sad yet also happy and sweet...
Shows how we can try to make what is hopefully the right decission in any given situation. They are each unique and there really is not a "universal rule" as to if and when. Seems we've both gone through quite a few Animal family members, had to make hard decissions, adapt lives and expectations, and each and every one of these Animals was worth all of it! :-). And am sure we'll have many more to fill our "smiles" memory book.:-).
Btw, speaking of Animals...Lol...How's your 2-legged "Bear" doing? Stopped being stubborn yet??
Hope all is well!:-).
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Hi Witt!
Yes, each and every one is unique, that's so true.
I love the idea of a "smiles" memory book. I keep meaning to collect photos etc someday and do exactly that. I still haven't gotten around to it. We just get bittersweet surprises when we run across them by accident. :)
Oh, he's coming around. I'm thinking of instituting a "treat" system, and am trying to decide on inexpensive yet tempting reward that would move this whole thing forward a bit faster. Got a couple ideas, but I'll keep you posted on main progress.
Hope all is going well with you down in Paradise! ;D
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Morning chou! Training time! Ha, ha..you know those Bears can be
Stubborn and grouchy when you mess with them, some Berry Cakes? Lol.
Keep me posted, and good luck!:-).
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It's not an easy choice & my heart goes out to you. If there is confusion for her due to deafness & blindness that is causing her distress then yes. My mums dog use to follow the walls round the house to safely get around but once that stopped her coping, she would shake From fear & cry so then we sent her off to get her fairy wings. The vet let my my mum spend time with her dog alone before & after she was put to sleep. Then we brought her home & I buried her in the back yard so she was still close to us.

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Do the right thing
Put the poor dog out of its misery

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A really tough decision for anyone to make, a lot of people have given their opinions, read chou and my discussion for options, but it really comes down to you and your Dog and what/if you're able to do. Wish it were easier but it never is.

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You decide, will you want it to suffer so you can be happy or do you want it to stop feeling pain. Only you can figure out the answer to this question so you must find the courage to do what you feel is best for your dog

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