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Is revenge the right thing to do?

Because of, "Treat people the way you want to be treated."
Doesn't that mean revenge is the right thing to do?
If people treat you badly and with harm, then shouldn't you treat them that way too?

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yeh but forgiveness is even better

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No.... just because someone did something bad to you, doesn't man you should do the same.

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I don't know how that would work.
Why should I feel harmed or betrayed, if they do not?
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yeh it does.
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no, revenge blackens the soul and eliminates one's sense of right and wrong. Never fight for revenge, the power gained from that rage will be beaten by power gained from a more pure cause every time.

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You seem wise beyond your years.
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australis
how true
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oh preppy still waiting for u to solve my riddle
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I don't think I saw it, what is the riddle?
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australis
go to the question duel to the death.I wrote it there.
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if u can't find it let me know,not that i now how to use this site.can u look up past comments and questions?
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Forgiveness isn't for the people who wronged you it is for you :) the bitterness you will hold on to isn't worth it.

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sometimes

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like that dog >:)
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I thought through it i'd probably do the same.
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"Treat people the way you want to be treated" does not mean "treat others the way they treat you". Those are two entirely different concepts.

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They are the same thing, just different perspectives, "Treat people the way you want to be treated" is when you harm someone. If you remember that rule afterwards, then that means you want to be treated with harm, just like the other person. The other person, though, is thinking, "Treat others the way they treat you" because they're just asking for it.
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karma will get them (:

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Yes! Woooo

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The Platinum Rule: "Treat others the way THEY want to be treated!!!"

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Revenge is a two edge sword. Not only is one possibly injuring their most deserving assailant, but for certainty their closest ally, themselves. Rethink, before engaging in such activities.

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No it's not the right thing to do, it just makes you look bad, evil and competitive. I'm always revengvle because when ever someone does something to me that I don't like, I can't stand it so I want to get revenge so I can make myself feel better. But revenge just shows evilness, take it from me, I'm sometimes evil

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Hi, Argonian. You kind of answered your own question if you think real hard about it. "Treat people the way you want to be treated." Think about it, honey. That would mean you would want to be treated with revenge. It doesn't have anything to do with how someone has "treated you." It has to do with how you "want" to be treated and you would "want" to be treated with revenge. Just because that person was mean enough to do something bad to you, don't let yourself go down to their level and become vengeful to them. Show them you're a bigger person. You're not the mean one. He/she is. It's not about what they did. It's about how you react.

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I meant to put myself in their shoes and say, "Treat people the way you want to be treated" so they would basically want to be treated the way they would treat me.
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Honey, there are just mean people in this world and I just don't think there ever is a time you should lower yourself to their level to do whatever they did to you. That doesn't make you any better than them. Show them and others that you are the bigger person. I've lived a long enough life to realize that it's the best thing to do. Believe it or not, there are times you come to realize you wish you'd reacted differently to a certain situation because you will have felt differently later. Before you jump in and do the same thing that person would do, I'm just saying, do something different than he would do. Why would you want to be like him/them? Really? That makes you no better than them and I'm sure you are.
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Eh, it's probably not the right thing to do, but I've had always had a tit-for-tat philosophy. Everything seems to be the "wrong thing" these days, which basically means that the only "right thing" is to sit back and take the abuse. My answer: go for it. They probably deserve it.

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when you are a small child, you get into a fight, you lose and end up getting your arm broken, your arm is crippled for life, so when you grow up, you go and find the guy and kill him as revenge. Is that justified in any way? According to your answer, that would be perfectly okay. Revenge is never justified, it is done for the wrong causes, and has no purity of reason.
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That's just stupid. By "small child", I'm guessing you mean a toddler. I've never heard of a toddler that's held a grudge against someone for years on end. Let's actually go by a logical hypothetical situation and assume that it's an adult. I agree that revenge to THAT degree would be stupid. You wouldn't kill someone fir breaking your arm. You'd break THEIR arm and maybe something a little extra.
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no, small child means small (low height), child (below age of 14)
And I know people who absolutely hold grudges that long, but one way or another, even your logical situation puts you in the wrong.
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Grown people, yeah. Toddlers? No. My hypothetical and logical situation can't be wrong. It's actually impossible because it purely relies on opinion. Opinions can never be wrong. I think you've still got a problem with that suggestion I gave that kid on how to handle someone that's bullying him. Stoop being immature and move past it.
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Actually, an opinion can absolutely be wrong if based in false premise. Which yours absolutely is, and while I do have a problem with your obviously under-developed knowledge of how to fight, it isn't something I hold a grudge with you over, this conversation is purely about the answer you gave on this question, which is based in a moral evil, and so is wrong.
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Sorry, Preppyboy. I agree with Brad. I'm a huge advocate of revenge. Star.
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No. It can't. You're incorrect no matter how you try to spin it. You'll have to forgive me for not taking your "under-developed knowledge" comment to heart, especially from someone who claims to be some sort of self-taught fighting guru. "Moral evil"? According to who? You? Here's a little tip: the people that make the rules are the same people that declare something to be either right or wrong. If you take their word for it, you're an idiot. Right and wrong can never be defined because in reality, they don't exist. How is it that the government can condemn the IRA as terrorists, but praise factions that fight governments deemed hostile as freedom fighters? Right and wrong are a matter of opinion, which means that it's impossible for one to be correct. My opinion is not and cannot ever be "wrong". Move on. Torngren, thank you, it's good to know that not everybody is as moronic as preppyboy.
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ah, moral relativism. I am not the moron here, if you can actually believe that right and wrong don't exist, then you are a fool, and a tool of the darkness. No matter what belief system you go to, there is always a set of explicit moral truths that remain the same. Malice, is one of those things that remains wrong in any belief system, and revenge can only be based in malice. I don't care what the government thinks, they don't make moral judgments, they make laws, and many of the things condoned by the government are morally wrong. You sit in a gross state of yin, far away from that dot of light on the horizon. To advocate the idea that right and wrong doesn't exist, is to become a tool of the wrong. But I doubt you can really understand that, as you are far to drowned in your relativism for it to really have an effect. According to your personal beliefs that you have posted. Murder, s3xual assault, theft, and all of these other injustices, are perfectly fine. If that is in fact the case in real life, then you stand not only in opposition to that which is good and just, but against the very founding principles of America.
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Yeah, well, more specifically, it's normative moral relativism. That "tool of darkness" comment is the exact reason that we will never be able to develop any further as people. It's people like you that condemn anything that doesn't support your moral beliefs, which have been drilled into you since you gained understanding. That's inevitable, but while people can't change and become a free-thinking society, we will remain at the level we're at now. Yeah, revenge is based in malice. However, revenge wouldn't be needed if there wasn't an incident that sparked the fire. Governments make laws that have developed from moral judgements. You're overly ignorant if you believe otherwise, and that sentence is tightly wrapped in a coil of contradiction. Your opinion that your beliefs are the light and mine are the darkness is truly pathetic. You yourself are an oppressor, telling people what to believe and what not to believe, what is "right" and what is "wrong". I'm far more flexible than that. I believe that in order to progress, we need to be capable of doing whatever is necessary to move forward and flourish. However, while there are people like you that don't have the stomach, let alone the will to do that, we're not going anywhere. All around us, society is going down the drain and it's people like you that aren't attempting to stop it. I never said that "murder, sexual assault, theft, and all of these other injustices" are "perfectly fine". They only hinder our development instead of encouraging it. You call it "injustice", I call it "counter-productive". I stand against the people that stand against our physical and intellectual development, and I definitely stand against the materialistic, hedonistic, egotistic and narcissistic founding principles of America.
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oh, so your a supporter of totalitarianism, nothing more needs be said than that. There is something called absolute truth, and it does exist in regards to morality. There is an absolute right from wrong, and not everything is a shade of grey as you say. You encourage orchestrated anarchy, and are encouraging society to go further down the drain. What you call free thinking, is not really free thinking at all, but a descent into oppression. You encourage negative progress, which is truly not progress at all. The ends will never justify the means. Often times, how you get there is just as important as getting there at all. It's a principle called honor, something someone such as yourself would not understand.
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Well, first of all, it's "you're". That's a pet peeve of mine. No, I'm not a devout supporter of Totalitarianism. I have support for pieces of various political stances. Yes, that includes portions of Communism, Capitalism, Fascism, Totalitarianism and many, if not all others. Why is it that only one point of view can be "right"? Ego. One of the founding principles of America. That's why. I'm not disputing that absolute truths exist. Morality, one way or the other, can never be one of them. How do you think morality became what it is today? It all started with an idea. That idea caught on and spread like a virus. It's the same thing as religion. One idea can mould a society into its creator's image of a so-called "perfect world". You believe that there is a right, there is a wrong and there is nothing in between. Your beliefs have stemmed from somebody else's idea of their ideal society. It's pretty impressive, really. You genuinely believe that your morals are your own, formed through a natural development over time. While it's probably a pleasant illusion for you, it's not the truth. It's social programming. I "encourage orchestrated anarchy"? No. I encourage understanding and tolerance. I encourage everybody to not just believe themselves as equal, but to prove it. However, it's people like you that refuse to allow that to happen. You violently resist something that you've been told to disagree with. You're incapable of thinking for yourself - you're incapable of free-thinking. Free-thinking isn't a descent into oppression, it's the ability to rise from it. We're already oppressed. We're told what to do, what not to do, what to wear, what to look like, what to say and most importantly, what to think. It's ridiculous, and it's worse that the majority of people, like you, believe in the intricate illusion of freedom that's been pulled over their eyes. Oh, if you paid more attention and looked a little closer, you would see that sometimes - not always - but sometimes, the ends undoubtedly justify the means. THAT is an absolute truth. Haha, honour? You call THAT honour? That's actually laughable. I'll tell you what, watch the movie 'Unthinkable' with Samuel L. Jackson. Watch it all the way through, give me your opinion on what should or shouldn't have been done and THEN define honour. Until then, I don't want to know about your misguided beliefs. They're a dime a dozen.
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Your problem, is that you don't realize the absolute truth that equality doesn't exist. We are certainly born equal, all with the same capabilities and such, but we do not have a promise of equal outcome. The fact is, any reasonable human being will ALWAYS try to become better than someone else. The concept of a competition is part of what makes the human race a continuously improving set. I am very free, I make my own choices in everything I do, I decide what to think and what to believe. However, I have CHOSEN to live my life according to the absolute truth of morality, something someone like you will never manage, because you simply don't have the will to do so. Your intentions have no purity of thought behind them, and were you to attempt to create this world you wish for, you would lose to people like me, who are willing to fight for that truth of morality. It is you, who has had the wool pulled over their eyes. I actually kinda feel sorry for you, but I suppose you just can't understand what i'm saying due to your lack of logic.
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If you want to remain ignorant for the rest of your life, then that's up to you. I'm not gonna bother wasting any more of my time talking to you.
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ah, gamma's, so much fun to argue with, unfortunately don't last very long though.
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No. The Golden Rule is to treat others the way that you would LIKE to be treated. Let God take care of the revenge. It may not be easy to do but it will hurt you less if you let go by finding a productive way to deal with it. I like to see justice too. Let's change the laws to allow caning for stealing cars, for example. If it hurts, it might be more of a deterrent.

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Revenge can be very good. under "certain" circumstances, It can be very appropriate .treat people the way they deserve to be treated.If a bully gets hurt when he picks on you, even if the bully wins, he will remember the pain.It will be a deterrent .

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no it's not Argonian because the thought of trying to get the person who wronged you back,will end up making you a very bitter person.You will be consumed with hate,anger,and pain and it's not worth it.they say what goes round comes around-so let them be they will eventually get theirs,i've been there and now i sit back and revel with their outcome and i didn't have to lift a finger.

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" Vengeance is mine" said the Lord, but I and my temper forgets lol

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avenging someone and revenge are different things. revenge is to make yourself feel better, and avenge is to do it for someone else. either way, you yourself will get hurt as well as the intended target.

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