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What do guys find most annoying about women?

What ticks you off about us? :D

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When they talk too much! They yammer on and on, two guys could have the same conversation in half the time.

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But not as thoroughly!! lol
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Half the time? Try two sentences!
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Flip, that's true, girls want DETAILS! Haha
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Yep, ALL of them! XD
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Some girls: yammer blather paragraphs yak yak yak yak.
Some guys: subject, verb, predicate.
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Taise, exactly right haha
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When they ask a lot of questions.

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Awww dang! lol
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Or the same question over and over again.
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lol
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women's expectations

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Like what? Doesn't everybody expect things from others?
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Probably how we tend to care too much of how we look or our nagging.

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That They are aware of the word " No "

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Some aren't...more should be. lol
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Good Comeback !! :)
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Well thanks! 8)
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Quite Welcome.. !! As Always...
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Sounds kinda rapey
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Well unless you're crazy I don't find anything annoying about women, I find a lot of their attributes and idiosyncrasies quite endearing, as a matter of fact that's what makes you so lovable, it's a wonderful quality...)

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Smoothe talker aren't you.
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has that gotten you any?
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I still love you, Sarte, when you talk like this.
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Ah honeys, I do adore all of you, and Mona sincerity has got me in a lot of laundry ;~)...................... I lived in a beach house in San Diego, there were three other women living there and myself, we all became very close, and during the few years that we were together they taught me many things about women, what they liked and what they didn't like, and how they like to be treated, and I'll tell you it made perfect sense to me, it felt as natural as anything could ever feel, it honestly made me feel extremely comfortable around women, as women if you understand the experience that I went through, then you understand a lot more about me than you ever knew before...
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What an epiphany! I'd like to do the same thing...except with three men :)
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It wasn't like that Mona, but then again it kind of was, but that's not what I meant in the statement.....Mona, 3 guys, really, wow, memories...)
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and did you think that's what I MEANT? I'd like to share a beach house in San Diego with three other men.....and become very close.....just like you did...nothing more....hmmmph!
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The problem with the written word as opposed to the spoken word is that you do not get a sense of inflection, I based my comment on the little banter that we have had in the past, I read into your statement incorrectly and I apologize if I offended you or said anything inappropriate...John
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naw....it's all good....I was jus' messin' with ya.

Just promise you won't jump to THAT kind of conclusion again...'k :)
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This place needs a sarcasm font....I'm gonna find that question about ASK pet peeves, now that I have one ...be back in a jif.
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k........ Sarcasm font sounds good...)
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probably never gonna happen. I'll try using the upside down ¡
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How'd you do that~|_>??!,.';$:/@&,?";...)(,'... I can't do it, I want to know all your little tricks now. (He said lewdly)
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I never type and tell ;)
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Symbol teaser ;~)
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lol...I know your type :)
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OMG!!! You two are hilarious!!!
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keep your eyes on the road ...lol
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Hey TL how big is that sleeper anyways ;~)
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as big as your segue
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I have a knack...)
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is that what you're calling it?
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as in knack...wurst?
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Now who's dropping the innuendo's, and yes it's knackaliousious, you know, the longer and fatter version ===============>
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now who's bragging? lol
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hate to end this but have to go....to a concert
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Have fun, talk later, bye...
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Nothing in general. But some girlfriends I've had do that thing, the "NOTING IS WRONG!" thing when obviously something's wrong, or the silent treatment deal, just put it on the table so we can work it out. Don't expect me to read your mind, if you just want a shoulder to cry on that's fine too.

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What do you mean by noting?
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NOTHING is wrong, when clearly they are pissed about SOMETHING!
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Ohhhhh okay thanks. Lol
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It's a proven fact that men are all about quickly finding a solution, while women want to talk about their feelings before ever moving toward a solution. The more they say 'nothing is wrong' the more likely it is you haven't listened to their feelings and went directly for a solution at some point (or all too often), making her not want to talk to you about it. This, fellow men, is our fault for wanting to fix situations too quickly to make them over instead of listening.
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Not all women are like that just as not all men are neanderthals.

I despise women who pull the "nothing is wrong" crap line. It does not make a man (or anyone else for that matter) want to figure it out. It just makes them think you are crazy.

On the flip side of this are men who think they "know" women. You may be acquainted with the women in your particular life, but that doe not make you an expert on all women.

Neither gender has the upper hand here.
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True true; however, considering the fact caluvox did state "just put it on the table so we can work it out" I do believe that what I stated does apply here even if it does not apply in all situations. It's a rather common scenario.
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Thankfully we are not all common.....
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Indeed.
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Frozen you missed my point. It would seem if you could read so much into my "put it on the table" statement, you could have read a little into my "shoulder to cry on" statement.
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Of course. However, both constitute a manner in which a woman would likely feel you are looking for a solution quickly instead of listening. If you're hearing the 'nothing is wrong' phrase, at some point you have likely already come across as only seeking solutions instead of listening.
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How do you figure that?
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Most women want to talk about how they feel openly and to have someone feel with them to work through their emotions. If someone seeks instead to resolve the situation immediately instead of feeling with them, it's likely they will feel that person is not a very good confidant. To that end, they no longer want to confide in that person because they feel their feelings have been ignored in the past and will be ignored in future conversations; hence, "nothing is wrong... because you just want to fix it if it's broken instead of helping me work through my emotions" is what goes through their mind.
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Mmmm....not feeling that scenario at all Frozen. I think you are generalizing women and men too much. It is almost like saying a New Yorker is a Yankee fan. Just because they live there does not make them a Yankee fan. Same goes for women. Stating that "most women" are or do something is just to broad a statement. I have never fit into a mold like that and frankly I do not know many women who do. I believe it is the same for men as well.
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Agreed Yosi, and I thought my comment about a shoulder to cry on pretty much covered the "working through your emotions" part.
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Yeah, me too.

I want to know where the "proven fact" came from.....
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While it's true people don't fit into molds, there are plenty of similarities in many situations. To expand on why I said "a shoulder to cry on" didn't cover working through emotions, it's not because it wouldn't help... it's because after feeling like a male has specifically only offered solutions to fix problems in the past, it sounds like a cop-out. "You're feeling bad again? Cry on my shoulder, let it out. I may or may not listen, but you'll feel better, right?" Sounds like a fix, a solution, something quick to her now rather than working through it because she's painted a picture in the past of what you've provided before.

To quote from a psychologist's blog, "...I like one of the points he raises that men show their love by offering to fix problems when a women talks about the frustrations of her day. Sometimes a woman appreciates having her man jump to her aid, but mostly not." http://blogs.psychcentral.com/observations/2012/07/how-men-deal-with-womens-emotions/

From Nashville Marriage Studio, it's important to be able to help fix the situation, but listen and empathize first. http://nashvillemarriagestudio.com/uncategorized/more-than-a-feeling/

If you're not convinced, there's plenty more.
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Both links go to a blog written by a singular person and cannot to be taken as a proven fact. There are plenty of links like this out there but that does not make it a "proven fact" (which would need to have science behind it to back it up).

I take umbrage when someone tries to put me in a mold by generalizing women or men.

Frozen, maybe in your social world your statements may appear to be true, but that does not make it so for everywhere else.
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Okey dokey then!!! I've learned the next time I answer an innocuous question that I'll be sure to leave a 1,200 word detailed innocuous answer :-/
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LOL! I will be waiting......
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Calu...do you need my feathered shoulder????
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:*(.. .. .i do now..... D*:
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I don't mean offense to you, ynp, nor do I mean to put you in a mold. This isn't meant to single anyone out, but instead to point out why a phrase might be uttered. It's a situation with a possible cause for an effect. That doesn't make me correct, no, but does it automatically make what I said incorrect?

I would like to ask, though, what makes it proven fact for you? The blogs I quoted from are written by someone with a Master of Marriage and Family Therapy and someone with an Honors Degree in Psychological Science and a Professional Diploma of Counselling. If this is what is being taught in universities as true and stated by multiple psychiatric persons, does it not constitute proof that it truly is commonplace for this sort of communication issue to occur?
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Neither link had any studies listed to back up what they were saying nor did they ever state it was a proven fact. Both are blogs which are observations (and actually is part of the title of one of the blogs you cited).

I can see where you would tend to believe what these folks have observed as they are well educated -- I would tend to take what they said with more than just a grain of salt due to this fact as well, but that does not make it a "proven fact".

As for what makes it a proven fact, it would have to be the same for everyone --- not just for me"
~~Scientific documentation to back it up.
~~Multiple studies showing the easily repeatable results without variance.

Now I "get" what you are trying to say Frozen, but you worded your answers/comments in such a way that you cannot back them up. You could have said "It appears to me" instead of "It is a proven fact".
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Calu...here are some big fluffy wing hugs for ya
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Whether it happens for you personally or not, does that detract from the fact it does occur or that well educated individuals have cited it as happening in their practices dealing with individuals they service? Proof of occurrence does not need to be 100% of the time without variance, does it? While I may have come off as making a blanket statement for everyone, that wasn't the intent.

Let's put this into a different perspective with completely different, unrelated factors. Five people live in the same house. One has flu, it is contagious, and they are in close proximity constantly as well as touching the same surfaces. One of the other people contracts the flu, but the other three do not. 60% do not have flu, does this disprove the existence of the flu? For that matter, does this disprove the existence of the fight or flight fix mentality VS the empathetic, feeling mentality causing conflicts because of misunderstandings?
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That's all well a good Frozen, problem is you were claiming a plague when all that happened was a sneeze.
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I have issues with you stating "it is a proven fact" which it clearly is not. That was it...........
I did not say that it cannot occur, but your made blanket statement which was unfounded.
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*you made a (not your made)
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Well, I think we're at least on the same page that I didn't mean to create a blanket statement for everyone, and that's my bad for coming off that way. I do still think; however, that in caluvox's situation it is likely part of the problem.
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Let's see what he said again.........

"But some girlfriends I've had do that thing, the "NOTING IS WRONG!" thing when obviously something's wrong, or the silent treatment deal, "

Then he said:
"just put it on the table so we can work it out. Don't expect me to read your mind,"----he is absolutely correct. He wants to help but he cannot if she won't tell him what the problem is. No one is a mind reader. He means "Just tell me what it is so that *WE* can talk about it." He is more than willing to talk it out.

Then he said:
" if you just want a shoulder to cry on that's fine too".-------This means that if you do not want to talk about it, I am okay with that too."
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Ta Dahhhh!!!! Yosi gets it :)
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I'll expand on what you just mentioned, and what I inferred from it.

"Nothing is wrong!" when something is wrong. That is to say, I don't want to talk about it with you. Well, why? Either it's a problem in her life that she's not willing to talk about because she didn't feel listened to in the past or it embarrasses her to talk with him about it, or he is the focus of the problem meaning she feels upset with him directly. I wholeheartedly agree with the mind reader portion if the latter is the case, but I figured caluvox deserved the benefit of the doubt as not being the focus of anger.

"...just put it on the table so we can work it out." This statement may make someone feel he means let's end it with a solution now and get over it. It sounds like, "get it out there so we can get it over with."

"...shoulder to cry on.." This can come off as 'just cry, say whatever, I'll just sit here and take it quietly' if she already feels he hasn't empathized with her situation in the past.
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Maybe you had some bad experiences? Not sure. Sounds like you are reading more into it than was there. As I just explained it above (and he agreed to it), it was no where near what you "read into it".
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I only went by the words he used in his answer. I read it as it was, not what it could be.....
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I read into it from his girlfriend's perspective, not his. His perspective is easy to follow. I'm focusing on a completely different side of things.
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Soooo...you are focusing on hat is NOT there in the answer????
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*what not hat
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Correct. I'm offering advice to him to help change the answer from 'nothing is wrong' to an actual something. He might get somewhere beyond that phrase if he were to say, "I want to hear your problems so I can be here for you and understand what's upsetting you." (empathize) instead of, "put it on the table so we can work it out." (fix)
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I think he does just fine.......no need to worry about Caluvox....
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This is just going no where, perhaps Froz you could save your psych evaluations for someone on Ask that needs them.
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Very well, cal. In all honesty, it was meant to be a helping hand rather than a discussion on the merits of the idea. I'll put my end to rest, though, and forgo further discussion. It was fun talking with you all nonetheless.
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Nothing.

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When they aren't willing to talk about something

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Dude! You should know what's wrong! And if you don't, well I guess you just don't care! (sarcasm)
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I know! What's the matter with me, right?!
Hey if I'm thinking it, I'll probably say it! That's usually where I'm wrong lol
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There are certain things the opposite sex does, or says that will make me harken back to the wise words of Admiral Ackbar (Star Wars) "IT'S A TRAP!"
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Lol, there's usually a Star Wars reference that makes sense
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Silent treatment, talking too much, nagging, clinging, calling too much, wanting to know where you are and what you're doing every second. There's more if you want.

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Spill...I want to know....EVERYTHING. lol
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Dang! You don't like the silent treatment AND blabbing on and on and on and on.....
Which one is it!? Just playing with you! Lol! Sometimes I think my husband would welcome the silent treatment from me...... don't know why!!!???? Lol!
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That's the crazy part...
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These are some of the things my sons griped about when dating. Lol
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Any and all DRAMA!

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When women date a guy that they know is going to screw them over. They have a goofy idea that they can tame a loser or try to change him. later those women come running to me to cry about it. I am sick of hearing it.

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Don't make yourself available to them. By doing that, however, you become a challenge to them, and they will want to prove to themselves that they can regain your attention.
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Stereotypical expectations.

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Nice avatar! How did you merge them?
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Photoshop. And thanks!
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Darn! I do not have photo shop. Anything like it out there for free?
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@Ynp: You might consider one of these: http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/11-free-alternatives-softwares-to-adobe-photoshop/, although I have never used any of them nor can I vouch for how free of bugs or viruses they might be. Adobe Photoshop Elements is not as robust as Photoshop, but it is very popular for everyday graphics needs. The newest version (version 11) runs about $100, but I saw a cut of version 6 on Amazon for under $25 which runs on Windows XP and Vista. In any case, just make sure you check carefully for compatibility since graphics apps can be memory hogs and there are various minimum requirements that must be met for them to work properly. Good luck.
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Thanks. I will do some research......
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That often times they don't realize how great they are. I'm not saying that to sound like I'm some great guy. I mean that actually annoys me about women

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I'm not a guy, but I feel like a guy would agree. I hate it when girls tell me all kind of details about her woman parts.

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