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Do Atheists believe in anything?

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Well, let me tell you what I believe in-----snails, whales, pails and tails
wood, hood, and all things good
dew, ewe, poo and ........YOU!

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Nice rhyming
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well, thank yuh, thank yuh very much
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Welcome
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silly girl :)
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oh oh : )
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Good funny!!:-).
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Well, glad you enjoyed! = )
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Sure did, and so True!:-).
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Indeed it is.
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If it has to do with god then probably no

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Some believe in ghosts/spirits/souls, but I personally don't believe in anything like that

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most of us don't believe in spirituality hence athiesm
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wickedpissah
I think swallex is confusing atheists with agnostics.
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I have an athiest friend who says she sees ghosts and stuff but doesn't believe im God, and she also believe people have souls. I guess that's what I based my answer on.
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wickedpissah
I think she may also be confusing atheism with agnosticism.
It's a common mistake.
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No, they are all correct. Atheism is JUST lack of belief in gods. An atheist may still believe in souls, spirits, or other supernatural phenomenon.

Agnosticism is unrelated- that is a position on knowledge not belief and almost everyone, theist and atheist alike, is also agnostic.
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Well said Skepti. !!
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They believe there is no God. That's what they believe.

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They have to believe in something, like the Big Bang etc.

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Voglir
that's called science
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It's a philosophical belief.
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Science is in no way a philosophical belief.

The only thing any two atheists have in common is lack of belief in gods.
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I agree with Marcue, The Big Band is just a theory, doesn't make it true doesn't make it un true.
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Bang*
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Just a theory? A scientific theory is a well substantiated fact.
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The Big Bang is not a fact. Not even history is fact. It's all theory based on what we see now about back then.
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Theories in science explain all available facts and evidence and are contradicted by none. They are the highest level of support any idea gets in science.

Yes, the Big Bang and evolution are theories- just like gravity, germ theory, the heliocentric model of the universe, and atomic theory.
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Kitten, we can feel gravity, see germs and atoms, and identify the position of planets which are all here and now. Atheists try to make their "belief" exclusive but every "belief" is based on believing without seeing.
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We don't have a belief. That is the point.

Your claim that atheism is a belief is like saying that not playing tennis is a sport or not collecting stamps is a hobby.
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Atheism is also unrelated to the Big Bang, which is also not a belief.

You have some major misconceptions about science.

You don't feel gravity- you feel its effects. Just like we see cosmic microwave radiation and red shift, which are effects of the Big Bang.

You also can't see atoms. The best you can do is get a computer rendering of what they probably are like using data from a Scanning Tunneling Microscope (STM).

You falsely equate evidence based methodology with religious belief. It's a fallacy and a pretty obvious one at that.
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wickedpissah
Wow. The scientific ignorance of some people today is nothing short of staggering.
If you don't know the definition of a word (like "theory"), then please don't try to use it in conversation.
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Americans are, as a people, pretty scientifically illiterate.

The thing is, one should know when he has no real understanding of a subject and thus not argue on it. Particularly with people who make that subject their life's work.
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Kitten - I don't think atheism is a belief. Like I said before, I only need a way to mention atheism and theism in one word. Give me a word for that and I'll stop referring to atheism as a belief. I also know atheism is distinguished from things like the Big Bang.
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We do feel gravity. We feel it using perceptions involving endolymph and proprioception.
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If we can't see atoms than we believe in them without seeing them.
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As a 17 year-old who knows Cotard's delusion is a disease involving depression, psychomotor retardation, and the delusion in a person that they're dead; and is thought to be caused by a lack of sensory distribution from the limbic system to the neocortex; I think I'm pretty scientifically literate. Also, I don't argue to show what I know; I argue to test what I know. Therefore it's fallacious of you to suggest I don't argue anymore.
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Kitten - We're going a little off track. I don't think anything about the original argument has been recently mentioned.
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How does knowing one disease make you scientifically literate? The basic concepts of the scientific method and central theories of each science make a person scientifically literate,

As for the original question- you claimed atheists "have to believe in something, like the Big Bang", both of which are hooey. As demonstrated, science is not a belief, and no one "has to" believe in anything.
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I also mentioned proprioception and endolymph. I can go deeper. My point is I'm only 17 and I know a lot about Neuroscience and anything pertaining to Psychology. I'm also going into Quantum Mechanics. I'm scientifically literate.
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Kitten, I agree Atheism is not a belief but find me an atheist who has no opinion but that of Atheism. Everyone has to believe in something and science is indeed a belief.
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Omfg Marcus, you can't "believe" in something that is real, simply because it is real.
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Things like Evolution are real to Evolutionists but its realism is controversial, therefore they believe in it.
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Allow me to make a better point in general. The idea that Atheism is "such a neutral mindset" is passed around so people will think an Atheist country is the most un-controversial and fair but in reality Atheism is just as contradictory to other mindsets as anything else.
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Science is not a belief. Beliefs are not based on evidence. Science is not even a "thing", it is a method for studying the natural world.

Evolution is not in any way controversial, and nowhere near a belief. It actually has more evidentiary support than the theory of gravitation, which is mostly shown through abstract math. Creationists try to claim evolution is controversial to give their mythology a veneer of credibility, but evolution stopped being controversial to scientists about a hundred years ago. Do catch up.- it appears you really don't have the scientific literacy you claim.


Atheism isn't a mindset. It is merely the rejection of the claims of theism as unsupported. It's like calling aleprechaunism a mindset, or aSantaism. You're back into trying to classify dismissal of an unsupported claim as a belief or philosophy in and of itself and it just plain isn't.
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Kitten, just as last time I can see neither of us will give in and I think it's time to stop this now. Goodnight.
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We believe that life is a great gift and an amazing opportunity to learn about the world and our place in it.

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And who created this life for you ? :D
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Atheism is the lack of belief in a god or higher power. This only refers to the existence of god or more. This does not refer to anything else but that. In fact, calling yourself an atheist is about as broad as calling yourself human, or calling yourself a male or female (which is one reason why I don't like to call myself that). All it means is that one thing. It doesn't give you any more information than that. If you want to know what an atheist believes, ask them. If you want to know what I, as an atheist or a human or a male, believe then just ask me.

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Well said!
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@Passage: Right on! I prefer to identify as "naturalist" or "secular humanist" which are both subsets of atheism. But those labels don't mean much to most people, so "atheist" is a type of short-hand.
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Science.

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Hi, Panther. Can I ask you a question about an atheist's view of science?
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Science isn't a belief system and is unrelated to atheism.
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I agree, however all atheists believe science. (If you've heard of any that don't, please tell me)
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Actually I have. I have an acquaintance who buys every pseudoscience claim that comes down the pike but thinks scientists are all in on a conspiracy with the government and Big Pharma.

Atheism doesn't insulate someone from stupidity. It just means a lack of belief in gods.
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We don't believe in it we SUPPORT it. And if you're making the assumption that Atheism is a religion, then you need a dictionary in your home.
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Lol. I love when people assume like that...
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They believe that they don't believe in any religion.

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Actually we lack belief in gods- atheistic religions like Theravada Buddhism do exist.
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thats what im talking about lol
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Once more... Exclusions...
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They believe in science.

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Voglir

personally I believe in the earths power.. when we die and are burried or our ashes scattered we become fertilizer to put it bluntly our "energy" returns to the planet from which we fed. so I believe in science

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And who created earth and its science? :D
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wickedpissah

I am an atheist.
I believe in knowledge and learning.
I believe in logic and reason.
I believe in cookies and milk.
I believe in being a good son, grandson, brother, uncle, nephew, etc.
I believe that classic rock is great music.
I believe it is better to fix the problems in this world than to hope for a better world in the afterlife.
I believe that Episodes IV, V, and VI were better than Episodes I, II, and III.
I believe that eating right and exercising is the best way to stay healthy.
I believe in equal rights before the law, regardless of race, creed, or sexual orientation.
I believe it's better to write someone a letter than to send them a text or an e-mail.
I believe in being kind to service workers and in always leaving a good tip.
I believe all myths have important lessons to teach us, but they are still just myths.
I believe it's better to feed the hungry and heal the sick than to cut taxes for the wealthy.
I believe in holding doors for strangers.
I believe tomorrow will only be better if we work to make it so.
I believe religion should be taught in church and science should be taught in science class.
And finally... I believe it's time for lunch.

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You are sooo wrong! I, II and III were best!
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Really?
I've got three words for you: Jar Jar Binks.
Boom.
Case closed.
I win.
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I KNEW it was Star Wars! I never watched it myself. I'm married to one of you!!!!
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It is not humanly possible to think 1, 2, and 3 were the best.
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I didn't read the whole thing to spaced out.
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Wicked....right on!!!! Excellent answer!
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Oh yeah.....Episodes I, II, & III sucked!!! I mean what the heck is that JarJar Binks thing anyway????? And need I say....ugh....Samuel L. Jackson?????
The only good part was Yoda fighting!
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Well- there was one scene- at the very end of Episode III where Vader's mask gets put on for the first time-
It slowly lowers down...
The seal pressurizes...
And then, for the first time.... *the breath*!
That part was ok.
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Super.
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Wicked: yeah but he was still a whiny-a$$ little boy then.
They should have left well enough alone and not made those three.
Now they are going to make VII and possibly more. I truly hope they write it well......
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Yeah, and now Leia Amidala Solo is officially a Disney Princess.
yikes.
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I and II were so bad that I didn't bother to watch III.

Wicked, that was such a clever, comprehensive answer that I've copied it to my Ask file. You haven't left much for anybody else to say.
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OzMan is correct :0)
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Yeah the Disney princess thing made me sick......
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Disney is gonna screw up SW even more than Lucas did with the prequels.
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@Wicked: This question is asked so often, and finally someone has come up with the definitive answer. Congrats!
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Dodgy: That's a shame. Of the three prequels, the third was unarguably the best.
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wickedpissah
Saying that the third sequel was the best sequel is like saying ".... of all the times I've been kicked in the nuts, that third time was the best."
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Agreed...and I do not HAVE any of those "baubles"
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Ok ok CONFESSION time! Not a fan!
I meant the first 3, the originals. I confused the fact that 1,2 and 3 came AFTER 4,5 and 6. I know, I'm not worthy to be on this thread.
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I'm confused. What are you talking about SQ?
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Oh wow! I thought I posted I agreed with your answer, but see it didn't post. That's funny! Having an almost senior moment I guess. But I do get the episode thing confused. I'm outta here.
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You ARE wrong. It is NOT time for lunch. How you believe in such a foolish thing is laughable. Does everyone make fun of you? Lunch? Really? I can see the sun setting out my window. Does that sound like noon to you???
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It's always time for lunch.
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Hello, AFTR, I can see the sun rising over my hill. That makes it time for breakfast in my neck of the woods.

And Gopanthers, My local footy team are also called Panthers and every one of them would agree with you. It's always time.
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The one common trait of being an atheist is the lack of belief in gods. Period. There are no other qualifications. Buddhists are atheists.

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Science in all of its glory, THAT is their God!

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Nonsense.
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Rubbish. Science does not require a belief for it to *be*. It is not a mythical man in the sky.
Science is in everything you do from the food you eat to the air you breathe.
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PoppyCock!
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Yes <_>
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Science knows every chemical compound, its precise measurements, and and purities, lets see science mix up a human from scratch in a petri dish, and then you'll have my attention.
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....what does that have to do with anything? Illogical much?


FYI- J. Craig Vetner's group created a bacterium from scratch, base pair by base pair of DNA. It replicated and carried out life cycles just like any natural organism.
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We don't believe in a god... What part of that do you not understand?
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The only thing atheists have in common is lack of belief in gods. What else we may believe in depends on the individual atheist.

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Be careful how the word is defined. "I believe I'll have a caramel macchiato" is something you'll hear theists and atheists alike saying. "I believe some immaterial part of me survives my death" is a kind of belief unique to theists.

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Are you smart?
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Yes, he is quite intelligent. :0)
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Yeah I can tell.
lol
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Can you now?
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Indeed.
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Or is that you attempt in being smarter?
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Wonderful grammar! Truly inspired.
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Gave me a chuckle ;0)
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All atheist means is a lack of belief in a god or gods. That is it.
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Everyone has a belief in something, but that is not necessarily a theology.
I believe that you should do your best no matter what. I believe much of what wickedpissah stated in his answer.
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As for those who said an atheist believes in science, that is also incorrect. Science does not require a belief in it to be true. Science is there in everything we do.....from the food you eat to the air you breathe. Science is a fact not a theology.

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That's Fantastic!
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I believe you're right, Yosey. After Wicked's comprehensive answer I'm not gonna have a go. Probably. There's just a little something gnawing at the back of my mind.
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I wasn't going to either but something pulled me in.
I think it was all the ones who said we believe in science. They just do not have a comprehensive understanding of what science is at all.
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YNP, sincerely, can you tell me how the Big Bang, Evolution, etc. are not just theories?
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MM refer to skeptikitten's last comment on your answer .....
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I'm not sure how that answers my question?
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Then MM I really can't help you.
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I understand. Thanks anyway!
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Yeah...yeah...kittens and puppy dogs and cookies and milk...well that doesn't rhyme, we all believe in something. but I'm thinkng...WHY? That's when it gets interesting.

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And Why do you belive in all that. You have to have a reason WHY You believe in EACH of those things!

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What things? They just asked a question.
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My opinion:

Atheists believe in themselves. Atheists display:
- humanity
- intelligence
- improvement of self
- control of one's life
- ability to change one's life
- confidence
- etc.

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and who created them?
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Why thank you, gymrat.
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You are welcome.

I see many athiests are not fans of dogma and blind obedience.

Personally, I enjoy questioning everything!
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Same here, I inconstantly take generally accepted "truths" and look deeper into them.
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The best and only way to go :)
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So true.
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Lots of things, your going to have to be more specific.

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I believe that regardless how many times we answer this question, there will be theist who ignore our answers.

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You ignore the true answers
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We don't ignore the answers that the True Believers give us (even when we haven't asked them anything). We disagree with them. We think, given our use of reason, that their answers are wrong. But atheists should know more than anyone what atheists believe, but time after time, those True Believers who got our honest and candid input on the question, come right back making the same erroneous claims about what types of people we are. Either they are ignoring our answers to the questions they asked, or they believe we don't even know who we are as human beings. I would go with the former as the most likely.
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I know you reject God. That's a start
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Then you are wrong. You cannot reject something you do not believe in.
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That's the start and and end as far as atheists' view on the reality of God.

And just to nit pick a bit, we really don't "reject" God as that would imply that we accept the really of God, but we reject following him. What we reject is the evidence of the reality of God and the concept of god and gods. We are atheists because no one as yet has provided sufficient evidence of the existence of God to outweigh the evidence of the nonexistence of God.

We aren't trying to not believe. We are simply trying know the truth. However, I actually did try to believe in God for over 50 years. I even convinced myself for most of that time that I actually did believe. But eventually I had to admit to myself that I was only engaging in wishful thinking and reflecting familial and societal expectations.
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You want to know a truth of mine CalTex?
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@TheSecret: I shared mine, so it's only fair that you share yours. Go for it.
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CalTex, It is time for this person to go.
I'm not hone but I will flag this user when I get home later tonight.
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No problem. Each time I put my views out their, it gives me the opportunity to refine them more clearly in my own mind. I have you thank for that opportunity.
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Thanks for the fun
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Cal, please don't put all theists in a box.
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It has been flagged. Just wanted to make sure it had seen my last message.
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@MadMarcus: Don't worry. I don't. Heck, some of my best friends are theists. In fact, I was a very happy theist for most of my life and have few regrets.
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Cal, that's good, but you were just saying all theists contort the view of atheists.
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@Mad: I wrote, "...there will be theist who ignore our answers" which was a typo. It should have read "...there will be *theists* [plural] who ignore our answers". But I didn't say all theists. Just that there are theists who ignore our answers while there are other theists who actually believe us when we say we are human.
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No faith that god exist

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If believe don't believe in God. They have to believe in something. That's just a oxymoron

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Maybe something other than God?
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No a Atheist is some one that refutes the existence of a deity.

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I think atheists believe in many things.

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Atheists believe that there are no gods. Anything else depends on the individual.

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Atheists don't believe in supernatural beings. Is that what you were asking? I believe in gravity, although I don't know 100% what gravity is, only what it does. Considering there have been and are hundreds of religions, the chance that one civilization guessed right (assuming there IS a right guess) is extremely low probability. For all we know, the Buddhists and reincarnation are true and everything else false. Who really knows.

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there is no such thing as an atheist. everyone worships something. If not God, money, self, sex, cars, bikes, trains, planes what do you idol

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yea...some believe that love is god and there's no supreme power

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