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If God created everything, where did He come from? There could not have been anything to create him, so where did He come from?

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God, is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end.
He was there before the "beginning" he just WAS THERE,.
There are times that we religious people ask ourself that,it's just amazing
But he's there.

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Amen. that is the right advice to give to someone. God bless you.
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The universe is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end.
It was there before the "beginning" it just WAS THERE,.
There are times that we atheists ask ourself that,it's just amazing
But it's there. That works just as well.
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there could have been a pre - god god .

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Then you have to ask where that pre-god god came from, and it becomes an endless cycle.
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He created himself he is the beginning

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No one knows the answer to this question.

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False we know he was always there and God does know
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Read this: 3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.

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From what I can tell, verse 3 of Habakkuk 3 is a poetic reference to one man's vision of God moving across the Earth and Teman was the point where God made his entrance to Earth on that journey.
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yes God had created everything he was already here no one else created jim
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Outlandish concept: infinity. Omnipresence. He is all that was, is, and will be. God didnt have a beginning, He wasnt created. its hard for us to grasp because we humans have only experienced things that have beginnings and ends.

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Good answer!
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So did the universe.
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Amen
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Take out the word "God" and insert "universe". Same argument minus a deity.
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well, that's a thought, but not a generally accepted one in the scientific field. the universe supposedly has a beginning according to accepted theory
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He was first and was just there. There is no way to explain it because only god knows, to him we are just ticks knowing hardly anything he could possibly know. He just is and is and is, nothing to explain.

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He is God. Nuff' said.

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You put the apostrophe on the wrong side of your abbreviation of "enough".....
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I stand corrected...
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I assume that's sarcasm....
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I'm glad the philosophers don't reason the way you do. Could you imagine Plato pondering the state of existence."We exist. 'Nuff said". Genious.
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Amen.
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He "doesn't have a beginning and doesn't have an end," as it say's in the Bible

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Neither does the universe.
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There will never be a satisfactory answer. And so it goes on and on and on........

But, why do you think God is a he?

For those who like the "Big Bang" theory; where did the energy and matter come from?

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Quantum physics shows that matter can pop in and out of existence.
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How come?
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Ask Stephen Hawking. Or watch the first episode of his series "Curiosity". He explains it very well.
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Ok, thanks.
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God has been God from all of eternity. Nothing caused Him to exist. He had no beginning and he will have no end. Although we are used to thinking that everything must have a beginning, there had to be something that has existed eternally. The Bible states that it is an infinite, personal God. The only other choice is to argue that some sort of material has existed eternally. Consequently one must choice between an infinite personal God who has always existed or lifeless impersonal matter. God simply exists without having a cause, because God is not a dependent thing. God is an independent thing. No one made God, because God isn't the sort of being that needs to be made.

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As to the choice between an infinite, personal God and infinite, impersonal matter (and energy), here are two comments.

(1) This choice does not presuppose an either/or choice. The former choice includes many other alternatives to the specific concept of God to which you refer. Many religious traditions report the universe was brought into being as a collaboration between a god and goddess which are each specific to each religious tradition. And Hindus, for instance, say Brahma has been creating many universes and will continue to create more after this one is gone. Some say an undulating, non sentient supernatural force was the cause which involved no plan or interaction. Therefore, that the universe came into being as a result of the God of Abraham or the Higgs boson singularity are but two among thousands of choices one has to contemplate.

(2) It is implied from your question and various other comments you have given on Ask.com that you believe the former is a more desirable option than the latter. I don't see why that would be. At least with the latter we are all fully accountable for our actions during our time on this planet rather than being pushed and lead around by gods and demons.
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For all of human history, people and civilizations have tried to know the universe. They've created deities and pyramids and statues and sacrificed people and animals. So many beliefs and religions about supernatural wonders. Seems to be what humans do when they don't know something. It is in our nature. If we don't know, we make up stories. We've always done that. We always will. people fear and so they make up gods to feel less frightened.

Think of all the ridiculous ideas we've had. Bigfoot, Loch Ness monster, ghosts, aliens (visiting Earth), Santa Claus (not the real one that started the modern myth), Greek gods, Roman gods, Aztec gods, Norse gods, astrology, witches, werewolves, demons causing diseases and possessions and mental illness, exorcism. The list goes on. How much of this has been dismissed by science? Almost all of it. The more we know, the less this crap is infiltrating our society. Who can argue with all human history against such ideas, and then demand their similar beliefs are actually true???
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And it is in our nature to be right. Hence, a Christian and an atheist will argue with equal passion against the supernatural wonders reported to have happened in the name of some other theistic belief, yet of the two, it will be only atheists making the case against the reported supernatural wonders of Christianity.
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This is kind of the point actually. This is why I don't believe in god. A lot of christians like to claim that god doesn't need to come from anywhere but if that was the case then neither do we. God can not be because he came from nowhere. Matter and energy has always been there because it has taken on many different forms and both matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

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lol u just used the same point. its all ways been there.
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Of course. But the thing is, I'm not the one claiming that whatever was always there can go against the laws of the universe.
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Who are we, so small in the grand universe, that we can claim to know everything about it - especially that that is unseeable and unknowable. Our brains are tiny and limited. We are so pompous to think we can know everything. Especially how the universe began (if it did) or how. I will be the first to speak the absolute truth. Ready for it? Here it comes...

I don't know. And I'm okay with that.

Oh, and neither do you.
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actually i also thought this question and got the answer that god exist but nobody knows how.may be there happened something that now only god can tell.

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okay ....first ask ur self if there was someone created god so there should be someone who created the creator of god and so on,,,,so it will be a closed circuit and we will just turn around it thus god has no beginning and end...if god had a creator so he would be losing properties that a god should have...there is so many more left to say but can't write it all here .if u want you can contact me ,write in comments

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and thats why I think god is an alien.

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and if we are made 'in the image of god', then we are 'aliens' also! I think god is some ancient alien also, and has probably created many life forms. Why? experiment with belief systems, curiosity...probably on the same trip as a lot of humans...to get to know itself.
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HE Always was, is, and will be.
God has no time table!
Alpha and omega: beginning and the end(of human's time) .

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WAIT, let me correct that comment!
JESUS was the creator(not God):
Genesis 1, john 1, Colosians 1, and Hebrews 1, all state and confirm that.
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Actually, God IS the Creator. Genesis1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth"
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3 in one! Now read John 1.
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Early man created the idea of gods to explain what they could not, like lightning or natural disasters.

The people who claim the universe HAD to have a creator but "god" didn't are using fallacious logic.

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Isnt that the same thing that they say about the Big Bang? That it just happened? And nothing and noone DID the BANG? At least we know WHO!
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We can safely state that the presence of an answer necessitates the existence of a question i.e. If there is no question, there will be no answer. So, for example, if we define that cat is an animal that cannot talk, and if someone then asks if the cat speaks Chinese, there is no answer to this question since it is a logical mistake as per the definition and it carries with it the supposition that the cat talks. If we put the data concerning the cats into a computer answer the above question? It would probably be programmed to display on the screen: ?Question is illogical.? It would be an incorrect answer to say: ?No the cat cannot speak Chinese,? because the implication is that it can speak, although not Chinese. Equally incorrect is the answer to a different question, namely: ?Can the cat speak?
It is important to show the illogical nature of questions that are asked about the essence of God e.g. "Who created God?" Or "Where He did come from"?.
At this point, let us remind ourselves of the usual definition of God: we believe that God created everything including time, space, matter, energy and life. Thus, logically, the Creator cannot be subject to the laws and concepts that He created.
Such a question is not a question and therefore does not have a direct answer. It is similar to asking: "How acute are the corners of a circle?" Because this question contains an intrinsic contradiction as per the definition of circles, it becomes totally unintelligible and hence nullifies its validity as a question i.e. effectively; the question does not exist.
Words I love to Conclude.
It is time to find out about Islam. It is time to find out about the truth by using your own Mind.
A Time for Thought.
A Time for Change.
A Time for Action.

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Sounds like you Did answer the question about the chinese cat after all!
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Alsub....... Why would i choose to read and believe in your religion when it condons killing innocent Americans !
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I am a cat whisperer. cats speak with their minds telepathically. They also dream and have nightmares.
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well, you can't compare creatures to the Creator ...

The Creator must be of a different nature from the things created because, if He is of the same nature as they are, He will be temporal and will therefore need a maker. It follows, therefore, that nothing is like Him. Furthermore, if the Maker is not temporal, then He must be eternal. If He is eternal, however, He cannot be caused, and if nothing caused Him to come into existence, nothing outside Him causes Him to continue to exist, which means that He must be self-sufficient. And if He does not depend on anything for the continuance of His own existence, then this existence can have no end, so the Creator is, therefore, eternal and everlasting. Hence we know that He is Self-sufficient or Self-subsistent, and Everlasting or, to use a Quranic term, Al-Qayyum: "He is the First and the Last."

The Creator does not create only in the sense of bringing things into being, He also preserves them and takes them out of existence and is the ultimate cause of whatever happens to them.

"God is the Creator of everything. He is the guardian over everything. Unto Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth" (Quran 39:62-63)

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God always was and always will be.

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Admitting that a god did create the universe, the question arises, of what did he create it? He certainly didn’t make everything out of nothing. Because, "nothing" - considered as raw material - is but a most decided failure. If something can't come out of nothing, how is it consistent that a god came out of nothing? If god had to create everything out of himself, then, Anaximander of Miletus was correct to say: "Creation is the decomposition of god."

If matter cannot be destroyed, it couldn’t have been created. The indestructible must be uncreateable. If matter could not have existed from eternity, how is it perfectly self-evident that a god has? If god created everything, then, before he started to create, there must have been an eternity, during which there had existed nothing -- absolutely nothing -- except god. It must follow, then, that an omnipotent god spent an eternity in absolute nothing, and in perfect idleness!

Man created gods in his own image. Ignorance created God, or the illusion of god. Gods were made so easily, and the raw material cost so little, that the divine market has been glutted, and crammed with gods.

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But how much time is eternity if time doesnt exist? Is it a million years? Is it a second? Eternity without time is a pause. So its all the same. There was no time before the beggining, and the beggining is God. He created everything from nothing, not Himself, not some material.

As for matter not having existed from eternity, there s no reason to think matter and energy existed before the universe was created. Gby
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Funny!! Nothing could be more perfectly absurd than to propose that a god is as old as the universe is (6017 years)!!!
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Then hpow many years passed before the universe was created? Maybe that way, you cound consider how old God is. You only like to call absurd what you dont understand. And btw, the universe isnt 6017 years old. Idk where you get that from. Its so silly. You should do mre research. Gby
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And you should know your bible and own history! The timeline given in the bible starting from the day 01 (one) of creation and the ages of death of the persons being specified in the texts it is only evident that as per bible the universe is only 6017 years old! And, this timeline was not prescribed by a non-Christian but by the supposedly infallible pope and by the decree of the Christian mother church!!

In 1580, the Roman Martyrology, published by the authority of Pope Gregory XIII, and revised in 1640 under Pope Urban VIII, declared that the creation of man took place 5199 years BC.

In 1650, Archbishop Usher announced, after careful study - as he claimed, that man was created 4004 years BC. But, calling this too vague and unspecific, Dr. John Lightfoot, VC of the University of Cambridge, was pleased to assure the world that, "Man was created by the Trinity on the 23rd of October, 4004 B.C. at 9 o'clock in the morning."

You see, it is always better to learn a thing before vaguely penning them. Even though it has not been a surprise to me to see another typical Christian who forgets to use his head before using his pen or tongue!!
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God is not a god of time. He is timeless! Omnipotent, omniscent,
All knowing! always Here!
always was, always is, always will be!
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1. Actually, the Catholic church that the Pope runs is what s described in chapter 17. The pope doesnt preach the real biblical gospel. So dont count on that.

2 is that How couldve there been seven days if there were no sun or moon or stars to tell the days? The Bible refers to God s time. Aside of that, the universe wasnt created in seven days, the Earth was organized in six days. And those were the days of God. Not the days that we know. But one day to God is an undefined time to us. Facts like that are the ones people leave out when they make their ''investigations''... Gby
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You people never fail to amaze me!! Mind explaining me then, if one day of god was millions of year, the REST in the 7th DAY? Is it according to reason that that an omnipotent and omnipresent god spent millions of years in perfect idleness -- in complete REST -- without doing anything?

Such impositions, out at the elbows, out at the knees, buttons off, somewhat raveled, will, after all, do very well for only intellectual paupers like you. There is a great trade of this kind going on now -- selling old theological clothes to the credulous. The Christian Church changes every day. It does not change its ceremonies; but the spirit that begot the ceremonies, the spirit that clothed the skeleton of ceremony with the flesh and blood and throb of life and love, is gone. The spirit that built the cathedrals, the spirit that emptied the wealth of the world into the lap of Rome, has turned in another direction. Of course, the churches are all going to endeavor to meet the demands of the hour. They are imposing new meanings for old lies. They are re-punctuating and re-phrasing the bible. They are now telling us that "flat" means "a little rounding:" that "six days" means "six long times;" that the word "flood" should have been translated "dampness," "dew," or "threatened rain;" that Daniel in the lion's den was an historical myth; that Samson and his foxes had nothing to do with this world.

We know that all these things will be gradually explained and made to harmonize with the facts of modern science. They will not change the words of the creed; they will simply give "new meanings;" and the highest criticism today is that which confesses and avoids. In other words, the creeds will change as the people change. They will keep for sale that which can be sold. Already the old goods are being "marked down." That is what you are trying. But, such attempts, if at all, only excites my laughter.
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A day for God is an undefined time, not a million years. Not only the christian church changes, the world does as well. But the principals of God are always the same. The flod was a flood. The story of Daniel and Sanson are true. Now, there are things in the Bible that harmonize with modern science, and there are things of modern science that harmonize with the Bible. Aside of that, there are people who use lies to harmonize them even more.

Also, its all very close to the end. Soon, all true christians will dissapear. And then some people will turn to true christians. And there s gonna be war after that. Some say that the laws against christianity are already arranged, just not confirmed yet. They are being kept for the days of the universal religion after all the true christians dissapear. After that, there will be aparent ''peace''. After that, the Earth will go through worse that it has ever been, and after that, everything will be known. It wont be gradual, it will be sudden. Gby
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Delusion and falsehood cannot be carried higher than they are in your last post. You, Sir, are but a novice in the business. And what are your evidences to prove all the "CHRISTIAN TRUTHS" that you asserted above? Mind you that I haven’t leased my brain to ghosts and goblins to take solemnity for authority, or faith for fact.

However, haven't the Christians like you been threatening mankind with the same threat of end days for last 2000 years? Have not even the soothsaying of Jesus himself proved false about the end of days when he said:

"….you can be sure that the Kingdom of God is near. I assure you, THIS generation will not pass from the scene until all these events have taken place. " (Luke 21:25-33).

To show you, Sir, that your imposition of end days has no foundation in fact, I will cite to you one of the greatest falsehoods upon record on this issue.

Did not Paul lie in the 1 Thessalonians, iv, being inspired by the holy ghost, that the general resurrection of the dead and the ascension of the living will be in his and their days; that the dead in Christ will rise first. -- "Then WE (says he, ver. 17, 18) which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with THEM in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air, and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

The whole passage is in the first person and the present tense, "We which are alive." Had the writer meant a future time, and a distant generation, it must have been in the third person and the future tense. "They who shall then be alive." I am thus particular for the purpose of nailing you down to the text that you may not ramble from it, nor put other forgeries upon the words than they will bear, which believers are very apt to do.

Now, Sir, it is impossible for serious man to put confidence in a book that abounds with fable and falsehood as the bible does. This passage is but a sample of what I could give you.
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Ok, look, if a person is annoying a dog, and you tell the person that if they keep it up, the dog is gonna bite. Are you threatening the person? We dont threat, we warn. Actually, Luke 21:22 was refering to the time when another king took over Jerusalem around 70 after Christ.

And what the Holy Spirit letted Paul know was that the dead would rise first, and then the living would also be lifted in the air. This is just an image of what it would be like. A simple image so the people of that time could understand it. And the we was because they believed that the rapture was gonna be on their time.
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It's comforting to know that you reverence towards your god bought him down in the level of a dog??

And your interpretation of both the verses were utterly wrong. Only one point is enough to render your explanation totally void. Both the verses speaks in PRESENT TENSE and not in FUTURE TENSE!

And, by the way, i knew you wouldn't be able to come up with anything better. After all, this is what you were taught as an infant!! It's obvious to happen when you close your eyes, get on your knees, clasp your hand and PUT OFF your brain before you can use your reason!!
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I wasnt taught anything as an infant. I learned everything after I was 17 years old and decided to give my life to Jesus and no one convinced me. Only God did. And it was a process. Took years. Dont think anyone was telling me to, because I lived with my dad, and he almost didnt care about me being christian. My mom and anyone christian from my family were far away. And most people in the neighborhood, if not all the people in the neighborhood, didnt care about people being christian. If anyone did, I dont think I ever met them. Nobody at school talked to me about God. It took 4 years after I went away from God for me to come back. It was what God did. I experienced true spirituality, good and not good. That s why I was battling life when I decided to give up on trying to be self suficient and trying to not give myself to the devil either. So dont say its what anyone taught me. Cause only God taught me.
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Now, as for your reply:

Will, and shall, are not present. They are future.

And I havent brought God to the level of a dog.

In any case, Jesus did say He would rebuild the temple in three days meaning His body. But no one understood that. And He talked many things in parables and the same happened. Perhaps that s the case here.

Aside of that, what is written in the Bible isnt for a few, its for everyone. And when He said this generation wont pass until the things have happened, He did say many things that would happen in that time, and then He said the things that would happen after. So, when He said that the generation wouldnt pass until the things had happened, He meant all the things He said would happen in that time, not the things that would happen after.

And your thoughts about me are irrelevant to the subject.
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zeitgeist the movie - part one is very revealing about this 'god' of every religion.
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There s only one God. And He s not of religions. Religions may say they worship Him, but God doesnt teach opposit things. But religions do. So He s not the God of every religion. He is only the God of the people who accept Him as their only Savior from the debt of sin, and ultimate Lord.
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That was a great source of laughter! Thank you.

However, I have often observed that people who claim such exclusivity of god only when they are dyspeptic!!

And, people who has the least familiarity with the history of religions and gods, they know that your claim is as puerile and false as those of the savage followers of the stone gods. You have not the superiority of an atom more over those claims (unless, of course, to the credulous).
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You souynd like the kind of person who wouldve laughed at the idea of t6he Earth being round if you had lived in the medieval times. Or like the kind of person who wouldve laughed at the idea of the continents moving if you had lived in the time before the idea was even known. Right now, this is your source of laughter. Back then, those wouldve been your sources of laughter.

Dyspeptic or not, its the truth. And people who study things that they should be able to understand without studying 1. make mistakes. 2. say a bunch of things and know that they experience differently. 3. dont take all the details, only the ones to call the attention the most. 4. would easily be able to make something look the way its not if that person was against it.

Religions are older than history. Out of one belief came many. But the original real one is still the same, even if it became history after the other fake ones did.
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I rather laugh at your god who said the earth was flat and there was a firmament in the sky!! You would rather do good, however absurd they might seem to the rational minds, in justifying the ignorance of your god than venture upon my motives and orientations.

Again, Christianity is as base, false and forged as every other religion that ever has been. There is no record in the annals of the history of mankind tending to show that Christianity ever existed earlier than 2000 years. Christianity is only the last but one of the major existing religion. Even if there can be only one original religion there is no reason that Christianity is the one; and that Paganism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, or Islam are not the ones!! As I said before, only the credulous -- afflicted with dyspepsia -- believe and insist upon the ONENESS of their OWN religion.

It's sad, but it seems that you also have the misconception that knowledge - like truth - is sectarian!! Knowledgeable men does not do any of the things that you attributed to them -- unless they are Christians of course. Christianity educated man only in order to keep them from true learning. Catholics pretended to be in favor of education only to the degree that took to make a Catholic from a savage; Protestantism is in favor of education only to the extent it takes to make a Protestant out of a Catholics, and so I could go on. And that is why Christianity NEVER added one drop of wisdom to the sea of the knowledge of mankind. If all the bibles, gospels, apologies and sermons were to be blotted from the history of mankind, not one iota of true knowledge would have been lost from mankind. Gods never educated man - rather abhorred it. The wisdom of mankind is not the gift of your belief, rather the result of unbelief.

Or else, the stone gods of the savage answered the prayers and protected their followers just exactly (if not better) as good as the god, the son and the ghost.
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God didnt say the Earth was flat. And you keep laughing at what you dont know that is true, even if it is true. So many people did that in the past and you find them fools now.

Its obvious that Christianity is only so old, but still, it was known even before it existed. People knew it was coming from the prophecies in the old testament. So, the records of Christianity only go as far back as 2000 years. That confirms that Jesus s story is real. Not just the idea of a pope for guessing how much time had pased between his time and the time of the crucifixion. There s only one original belief, the real one of God. YHWH is the name God gave Himself to be known by the Israelites. The Father of Jesus. And He goes way back before Christianity. How could we know? Well, every religion has power, but no religion is more powerful than Jesus Christ. We the true Christians experience that. Infact, next to my church there s an occultism hideout. They keep doing spiritual battle. Actually, I think they moved recently. I havent seeen it open for a while.
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Aside of having the most powerful God, the Bible can relate to reality, and even history. Infact, the ashen remains of Sodom and Gomorrah still are there, also the charriot wheels in the bottom of the Red Sea. The way the persian, grieg, and roman empire happened, that s in the book of Daniel, in the Bible. And the Bible gives some very well descriptions of these times we are living now and even talks about the RFID, the soon to come one world order by one world Governor. The rise of a new world religion that will come from a suposed, but not really, christian religion, but it will be very different. It will be suited for the people s acceptance.
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About the things I said about the people who study those things, well, I wont try to convince you. I ll just say, when one pays more atention to what one goes through, than what others say, then one knows. Like my pastor when theologists were telling him that his wife never died. He had the papers that said she died with a blown up heart vessel, a broken spine and a pancreas out of place from a car accident. Him experiencing the way God restaured that woman that now she can even dance, without any surgery, will rather believe himself that what others tell him. And it would be blasphemy against the Holy Spirit if he didnt, I think.

About God educating people, its been known that the isralites had much advanced ways of conduct and higene than other cultures at the time. And the foods they eat are healthier. Aside of that, its the Holy Spirit to educate people in Christianity, not other people. Most of what people learn in Christianity are by ''themselves'' (but really its the Holy Spirit) and what they learn from others must be confirmed by the Holy Spirit. And when its not confirmed, then they learn the truth, not what the other people teach them. And even that way, everyone who s a true christian is unanimous in thought. Only the ones who dont read the Bible with the interpretation of the Holy Spirit are out of communion.

Btw, almost forgot, to clear that aboutr us having the most powerful God, I refer to the beliefs, because the other gods are demons that took over the mistakes of people and that way making their own religions. They wanted to be worshipped like God, they made their religionjs and said they were gods.
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Well, if you believe in God, then just think He existed at the exact moment before the universe was created, but think. How much time passed before the universe was created? Before that time, God existed.

If you dont believe in God, then just think what was what originated whatever you think that created the universe. Then think how much time passed between the creation of the universe and the creation of what created the universe. Then think how much time passed before that.


Before the beggining, God was there. He existed in the preexistence. And its simple as no time at all passed before the beggining. That s why infinity doesnt have time. Whether its a million years, or five minutes, its all the same when nothing is created. So, you could say God came from infinity towards the past, and He goes until infinity towards the future. Gby

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Nonsensical dribble.
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Gby!
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Dont call it nonsense. You dont understand it, but the brilliant minds such as mine, we do understand XD and Amen :)
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Lol, uh-huh, I'm sure.
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Again, another reason I know there is no god.

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Most theists will say it hard for us humans to grasp the theistic concept that God "simply was". Yet they are often the same people telling us that the Big Bang couldn't have happened because it asks us to grasp the secular concept that it "simply was".

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Cal, the Big Bang isn't a god.
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But the same principle applies: something from nothing
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But in my belief God is all powerful. In your belief the Big Bang is science. Science is not magic so how would it be something from nothing? That question doesn't apply to God because He's not science.
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Science doesn't know for sure what caused the Big Bang. But that does not mean that the cause defaults to God -- at least not from the standpoint of physical evidence. Lack of proof is proof of nothing. No physical evidence allows for an infinite number of possibilities if you consider all the causes we can imagine plus all the causes we cannot imagine.
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Cal, do some contemplating: what came before the Big Bang? And before that? And that?
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@Mad: I have done a lot of contemplating on the Big Bang and I share the view with many that the Big Bang was the instant that the physical universe came into being with its three principles of space/time, energy/matter, and the laws of physics -- what we refer to as the natural world. Humans are a product of that natural world, so it is impossible (I rarely use that word) to conceive of any world that does not consist of those three principles.

But whether we can conceive of such a world or not is not to say it doesn't or can't exist. If such a world did exist before the Big Bang, it would, by definition, be a supernatural world (even the word "world" is a physical concept which doesn't really apply in that it assumes space and time.) But if the supernatural existed before the Big Bang, that does not assume god or gods. It only assumes that it was not the physical world that we now know and love.

And who is to say that if this supernatural...whatever...existed before the Big Bang that it doesn't still exist. But it is my view that these questions regarding the supernatural are pointless since there is no way with our physical limitations to know if it is a reality, much less any particulars about it.

Therefore, I have chosen to live my life based on what I know rather than a guess among a multitude of guesses proposed by different cultures throughout the world. That is why I don't care what came before the Big Bang, or even if there was a Big Bang since it is beyond my intellect and training to grasp the concept. But I have looked into the issue of the supernatural from a multitude of angles throughout my life, and the idea of the Big Bang seems more plausible than a god or gods which intervene in our physical existence and have expectations of us -- expectations which vary wildly amongst those who are believers.

Sorry for the lengthy post, but you asked for it :-)
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So you're saying there has to be something that defies space/time, energy/matter and the laws of physics. That's exactly what God is.
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@Mad: God would certainly be a subset of supernatural possibilities, but not the only one by far. Also, I am not saying there has to be something "that defies space/time, energy/matter and the laws of physics" (i.e. supernatural), but I can see how you might have gotten that out of my comment above. I was only saying that IF some existed, it would be supernatural. But absolute nothingness is another possibility -- although I suppose that would also be a subset of the supernatural in that absolute nothingness is also lacking "space/time, energy/matter and the laws of physics" (this is starting to make my brain hurt). AND I suppose another physical universe could have existed and collapsed upon itself to create the Big Bang, but then the question still remains what came before that universe.

My answer to all if this is "I don't know", and I'm not going to simply give myself over to one particular concept of a supernatural deity out of the thousands of deity concepts available to me on a long-shot bet that (1) the supernatural exists (2) that it is occupied by sentient beings, (3) that any of those possible sentient being concepts are intervening and desirous of my worship, and (4) is the particular deity that one group of people out of thousands of groups says is the right one.
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This is one of the most interesting conversations I've ever had!
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Okay, Cal, I think I see your point. Are you saying there had to be something beyond the Big Bang but it's impossible to know what? I get it. But let me point out I still believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit because I experience their existence daily.
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And sentient. That's a very useful word for me; I'm into neuroscience. Thank you!
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Have a good day, Cal.
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God was created by mega-god. Mega-god was created by super-god, super-god was created. . .

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No sir, he is the mega god
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If there were an answer as to where God came from (there's not) then we as humans would continue to ask where that before Him came from, and that before that, and that before that, etc. That's the way the human brain works; we can only make sense of what we understand. But God has no beginning, He always was and will be.

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Sometimes I think if the bible doesn't tell you your not supposed to know.

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Jesus was the greatest teacher that ever lived. If you want to learn about what the bible means. Read the Gospel. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Gospel means witnesses. These bible book writers were actually there during Jesus life. Read and learn what he taught about his father and why we benefit from knowing him and his father, Jehovah.
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watch zeitgeist. available on net.
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Isa 44:6. 6 ?This is what Jehovah has said, the King of Israel and the Repurchaser of him, Jehovah of armies, ?I am the first and I am the last, and besides me there is no God.
I am the Alpha and the Omega.

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God is the First and the Last!

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Allah is the first and last how I know Coran. Whoever read it and understand it mostly scientists converted to ISLAM.

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he has no beginning and he has no end, he has always been present and and will always be present

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Does THIS answer your question?

http://www.youtube.com/user/DarkMatter2525 (watch God's god)

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God was always there. He didn't COME from anywhere.

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I think when people start to go in such details it confuses their mind and they start to refuse some rules or change them. If you believe in God and in being good person just as God's wants you to be then you should be one and not think of such things because those type of thoughts can mislead you. When such questions arise to our mind we should repeat "I believe in God and his prophets and all the good energy that it brings to us."

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He just IS.. the human mind will try and process that thought forever and we'll still need more time to think about it.

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no-one knows where god came from.

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That's an easy one! He isn't real.

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myth he is real. It is hard to imagine but he was just there he had no beginning.

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That's your opinion, and I'm fine with you having it.
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It isn't a opinion it is a fact. Read the bible, Myth Genesis 1:1 says: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
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I don't see what the bible says as fact.
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He was always there, but we as humans ponder this question a lot because we usually can't imagine outside of our own human mindsets. What I mean, is that it's complicated to think about, because God is supernatural and we don't think on the same level as Him.

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Moses said in prayer to Jehovah: "You have always been, & you will always be." (Psalm 90:2, The Holy Bible, New Century Version) Here Moses describes God's existence as stretching in 2 directions. One is toward the future. Jehovah is the One that lives forever & ever. (Revelation 4:10) Thus, God's existence stretches forward into the eternal future. The other is toward the past. In other words, God was neither created nor did he come into existence. Rather, God's existence stretches back into the infinite past. Abstract ideas are hard for most of us to comprehend.
Counting numbers can go on endlessly, either up or down. Could we not apply this example to the years in the life of the Creator? It is therefore fitting that only God bears the unique title King of eternity. (1 Timothy 1:17) Just think: Jesus, the angels, & mankind on earth all have a beginning because of being created. (Colossians 1:15,16) Not so with God. No, Jehovah alone exists from eternity to eternity. (Psalm 90:2, The New American Bible) In other words, Jehovah existed before all time. (Jude 25
SEE www.JW.ORG

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There has to be something before there is nothing. But in that same respect, there has to be nothing before there is something.

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Imagination

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God doesn't run on a timeline, so there is no beginning or end to him.

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Why is it permissible to say there was no "before" before God, so nothing created Him, but to say that same thing minus referral to God is ludicrous? How about this: there was no time before the Big Bang, so there wasn't a before and so no creation of the universe. It just always has been. Remove the necessity of a creator and you get the same reasoning creationists put forth. If there is no timeline, then why do we need to believe in a creator of anything?

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I don't know but isn't that why we have faith?

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There is always a before. So I just have to say that God created himself and began creating time, the sun and other things.

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Ahhh....The eternal question, 'Where did God come from?" It seems every human aquainted with the Almighty has pondered the answer on some scale in some point in his/her life. It feeds into our curiosty on the nature of our exsistance. The 'who created us, where did we come from and why are we here' question has such as strong hold on our psyche it seems impossible escape. We can not fathom the concept of God Eternal and nor should we, not until God Himself wants us to know. It is human nature to want to know all answers to all questions asks. As a human, I have asked this very question when I was new to the faith. It was only until I realised, which was years later, that I thought too much of myself in thinking that I had any right to know the answer. I now am secure in the knowledge that God was, is and will be eternal. I do not claim to have understanding in this concept, only that I have faith that the Almighty has and will always have has us in His heart. xxxx

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God exhists outside our realm of time, because he created time. We can't comprehend it because we are finite.

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I love the way you capitalized the G in God and the H in He
Really, it is the most confusing part in the Christian religion because we worship God for being perfect in all ways and always so to ask how is God never beginning, we must accept it is our natural make-up to ponder about the beginning of it all, so therefore the all knowing God is testing us and will reveal it all when we die. Just believe in the teachings Jesus gave us and you'll get there if you want to.

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