God, is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. He was there before the "beginning" he just WAS THERE,. There are times that we religious people ask ourself that,it's just amazing But he's there.
Outlandish concept: infinity. Omnipresence. He is all that was, is, and will be. God didnt have a beginning, He wasnt created. its hard for us to grasp because we humans have only experienced things that have beginnings and ends.
He was first and was just there. There is no way to explain it because only god knows, to him we are just ticks knowing hardly anything he could possibly know. He just is and is and is, nothing to explain.
God has been God from all of eternity. Nothing caused Him to exist. He had no beginning and he will have no end. Although we are used to thinking that everything must have a beginning, there had to be something that has existed eternally. The Bible states that it is an infinite, personal God. The only other choice is to argue that some sort of material has existed eternally. Consequently one must choice between an infinite personal God who has always existed or lifeless impersonal matter. God simply exists without having a cause, because God is not a dependent thing. God is an independent thing. No one made God, because God isn't the sort of being that needs to be made.
This is kind of the point actually. This is why I don't believe in god. A lot of christians like to claim that god doesn't need to come from anywhere but if that was the case then neither do we. God can not be because he came from nowhere. Matter and energy has always been there because it has taken on many different forms and both matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
okay ....first ask ur self if there was someone created god so there should be someone who created the creator of god and so on,,,,so it will be a closed circuit and we will just turn around it thus god has no beginning and end...if god had a creator so he would be losing properties that a god should have...there is so many more left to say but can't write it all here .if u want you can contact me ,write in comments
We can safely state that the presence of an answer necessitates the existence of a question i.e. If there is no question, there will be no answer. So, for example, if we define that cat is an animal that cannot talk, and if someone then asks if the cat speaks Chinese, there is no answer to this question since it is a logical mistake as per the definition and it carries with it the supposition that the cat talks. If we put the data concerning the cats into a computer answer the above question? It would probably be programmed to display on the screen: ?Question is illogical.? It would be an incorrect answer to say: ?No the cat cannot speak Chinese,? because the implication is that it can speak, although not Chinese. Equally incorrect is the answer to a different question, namely: ?Can the cat speak? It is important to show the illogical nature of questions that are asked about the essence of God e.g. "Who created God?" Or "Where He did come from"?. At this point, let us remind ourselves of the usual definition of God: we believe that God created everything including time, space, matter, energy and life. Thus, logically, the Creator cannot be subject to the laws and concepts that He created. Such a question is not a question and therefore does not have a direct answer. It is similar to asking: "How acute are the corners of a circle?" Because this question contains an intrinsic contradiction as per the definition of circles, it becomes totally unintelligible and hence nullifies its validity as a question i.e. effectively; the question does not exist. Words I love to Conclude. It is time to find out about Islam. It is time to find out about the truth by using your own Mind. A Time for Thought. A Time for Change. A Time for Action.
well, you can't compare creatures to the Creator ...
The Creator must be of a different nature from the things created because, if He is of the same nature as they are, He will be temporal and will therefore need a maker. It follows, therefore, that nothing is like Him. Furthermore, if the Maker is not temporal, then He must be eternal. If He is eternal, however, He cannot be caused, and if nothing caused Him to come into existence, nothing outside Him causes Him to continue to exist, which means that He must be self-sufficient. And if He does not depend on anything for the continuance of His own existence, then this existence can have no end, so the Creator is, therefore, eternal and everlasting. Hence we know that He is Self-sufficient or Self-subsistent, and Everlasting or, to use a Quranic term, Al-Qayyum: "He is the First and the Last."
The Creator does not create only in the sense of bringing things into being, He also preserves them and takes them out of existence and is the ultimate cause of whatever happens to them.
"God is the Creator of everything. He is the guardian over everything. Unto Him belong the keys of the heavens and the earth" (Quran 39:62-63)
Admitting that a god did create the universe, the question arises, of what did he create it? He certainly didn’t make everything out of nothing. Because, "nothing" - considered as raw material - is but a most decided failure. If something can't come out of nothing, how is it consistent that a god came out of nothing? If god had to create everything out of himself, then, Anaximander of Miletus was correct to say: "Creation is the decomposition of god."
If matter cannot be destroyed, it couldn’t have been created. The indestructible must be uncreateable. If matter could not have existed from eternity, how is it perfectly self-evident that a god has? If god created everything, then, before he started to create, there must have been an eternity, during which there had existed nothing -- absolutely nothing -- except god. It must follow, then, that an omnipotent god spent an eternity in absolute nothing, and in perfect idleness!
Man created gods in his own image. Ignorance created God, or the illusion of god. Gods were made so easily, and the raw material cost so little, that the divine market has been glutted, and crammed with gods.
Well, if you believe in God, then just think He existed at the exact moment before the universe was created, but think. How much time passed before the universe was created? Before that time, God existed.
If you dont believe in God, then just think what was what originated whatever you think that created the universe. Then think how much time passed between the creation of the universe and the creation of what created the universe. Then think how much time passed before that.
Before the beggining, God was there. He existed in the preexistence. And its simple as no time at all passed before the beggining. That s why infinity doesnt have time. Whether its a million years, or five minutes, its all the same when nothing is created. So, you could say God came from infinity towards the past, and He goes until infinity towards the future. Gby
Most theists will say it hard for us humans to grasp the theistic concept that God "simply was". Yet they are often the same people telling us that the Big Bang couldn't have happened because it asks us to grasp the secular concept that it "simply was".
If there were an answer as to where God came from (there's not) then we as humans would continue to ask where that before Him came from, and that before that, and that before that, etc. That's the way the human brain works; we can only make sense of what we understand. But God has no beginning, He always was and will be.
Isa 44:6. 6 ?This is what Jehovah has said, the King of Israel and the Repurchaser of him, Jehovah of armies, ?I am the first and I am the last, and besides me there is no God. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
I think when people start to go in such details it confuses their mind and they start to refuse some rules or change them. If you believe in God and in being good person just as God's wants you to be then you should be one and not think of such things because those type of thoughts can mislead you. When such questions arise to our mind we should repeat "I believe in God and his prophets and all the good energy that it brings to us."
He was always there, but we as humans ponder this question a lot because we usually can't imagine outside of our own human mindsets. What I mean, is that it's complicated to think about, because God is supernatural and we don't think on the same level as Him.
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Moses said in prayer to Jehovah: "You have always been, & you will always be." (Psalm 90:2, The Holy Bible, New Century Version) Here Moses describes God's existence as stretching in 2 directions. One is toward the future. Jehovah is the One that lives forever & ever. (Revelation 4:10) Thus, God's existence stretches forward into the eternal future. The other is toward the past. In other words, God was neither created nor did he come into existence. Rather, God's existence stretches back into the infinite past. Abstract ideas are hard for most of us to comprehend. Counting numbers can go on endlessly, either up or down. Could we not apply this example to the years in the life of the Creator? It is therefore fitting that only God bears the unique title King of eternity. (1 Timothy 1:17) Just think: Jesus, the angels, & mankind on earth all have a beginning because of being created. (Colossians 1:15,16) Not so with God. No, Jehovah alone exists from eternity to eternity. (Psalm 90:2, The New American Bible) In other words, Jehovah existed before all time. (Jude 25 SEE www.JW.ORG
Why is it permissible to say there was no "before" before God, so nothing created Him, but to say that same thing minus referral to God is ludicrous? How about this: there was no time before the Big Bang, so there wasn't a before and so no creation of the universe. It just always has been. Remove the necessity of a creator and you get the same reasoning creationists put forth. If there is no timeline, then why do we need to believe in a creator of anything?
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Ahhh....The eternal question, 'Where did God come from?" It seems every human aquainted with the Almighty has pondered the answer on some scale in some point in his/her life. It feeds into our curiosty on the nature of our exsistance. The 'who created us, where did we come from and why are we here' question has such as strong hold on our psyche it seems impossible escape. We can not fathom the concept of God Eternal and nor should we, not until God Himself wants us to know. It is human nature to want to know all answers to all questions asks. As a human, I have asked this very question when I was new to the faith. It was only until I realised, which was years later, that I thought too much of myself in thinking that I had any right to know the answer. I now am secure in the knowledge that God was, is and will be eternal. I do not claim to have understanding in this concept, only that I have faith that the Almighty has and will always have has us in His heart. xxxx
I love the way you capitalized the G in God and the H in He Really, it is the most confusing part in the Christian religion because we worship God for being perfect in all ways and always so to ask how is God never beginning, we must accept it is our natural make-up to ponder about the beginning of it all, so therefore the all knowing God is testing us and will reveal it all when we die. Just believe in the teachings Jesus gave us and you'll get there if you want to.