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Why Did God Create Satan?

Since God is all knowing and he must have already known that one of his angels would rebel against him, and then cause the sickness and natural disasters for his creation.
If he knew why did he ever create? Why didn't the all-powerful God destroy him?

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Because God understands how good story structure works......every hero needs to have a villain to quarrel with.....

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Well, different religions have different ways of looking at it. What I know is that Gd created satan evil, he didnt rebel. Gd created him that way to challenge us, because without challenge we would have no free will and Gd wants us to serve Him out of our own volition.

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i studied world religions for a year and in the number one primary source "bible" it states the whole story, that satan is a fallen angel
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RedRose
Mmm. I've never heard that before. either way, if satan did rebel it was because Gd wanted him to. also, WHICH bible?
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Isaiah 14:12 (King James Version)
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Ah. Like I said, different religions have different views. thats the chritstian bible.
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yep. lol and seether is ok
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Godisone
RedRose: You gave a good answer...thank you.
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happy to help :)
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Its God. God. Not Gd. Im sorry but things like spelling drive me crazy.
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Gd said being a grammar nazi is a sin.
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" What I know is that Gd created satan evil,"
You know, really? Maybe saying, "What I believe is..." would have been more appropriate. Just saying. ;)
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Because I believe in GD very strongly....for me, I know it as a truth.
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God did not say being a grammer nazi is a sin.
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God created him with the choice to do as he wished

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satan youse to be an angel but he rebelled

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He gave Lucifer free will. Sadly, the angel chose to abuse that power, so God sent him to Hell.

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I think the solution to this problem lies in appreciating the radical nature of the freedom that God has endowed each of His intelligent creatures with. It's hard for us to understand this because we are created and finite, but an eternal and infinite God can make creatures who are so free that their moral choices are not predetermined and so cannot be known in advance....it is no failure in omniscience not to know what cannot be known. And the freedom God has given us is so radical and profound that the essential moral choices we will make cannot be known in advance. God knows, in a way that we cannot know, that a world in which there freedom, and thus the potential for both love and suffering, is infinitely better than a world that has no freedom, and thus neither love nor suffering, and God also knows that these are the only two possibilities.
Anything beyond this is mystery. But we don't need to wonder about the goodness and power of God.http://understandingbooksbible.wordpress.com/2013/03/14/314/

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Dont be hating me but i am a Jew and don't believe in Satan. But i do believe in G-d. To my knowledge i dont really know why he created Satan to you Christians or different religions out there. He must have known that an angel was going to be Satan and turn good to evil. It was just G-d way that he did everything. We will find out soon why but for now we should wait for the time to come.

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Hey im jewish too :) there is a satan-like concept in judaism, its just a bit different.
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Now is the time to know the truth not wait for the time to come. Jesus said know the truth and it will set you free...
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They keep eachother in business.

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Your exactly right good and evil balances our world
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Why does there need to be a balance? Why can't there be all good? Besides, isn't all good, good?
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Satan used to be gods right hand angel. Satan tried to over throw him, and sent him to hell

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God didn't create the Devil. The Devil was one of Gods angels that lost his faith and became bad

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know god created Satan for a reason at the end of the world we will see

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Redrose is right in the sense that god made him so we could be challenged or tested if you will, but the bible states that satan is a fallen angel. Which means he and other angels rebelled.

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Love requires the ability and freedom to choose. Of course God knew; just like He knew that He would redeem mankind through the sacrificial death of God the Son, Jesus Christ. That was a choice God made out of love; to show that love conquers evil. Now each of us have the freedom to choose to respond to that sovereign act of divine love.

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Need to remember that God created all angels. Satan is just one of many who rebelled. But most angels made a choice to remain loyal to their Creator.
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They made a good choice to remain loyal.
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Sure did.
As for the devil, Satan as well as fallen angels, or demons...the answer to the last question asked above:
"and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever."
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What does Satan do to the people who go to hell?
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Nothing. It is hollywood myth to think that Satan is in charge of hell. He is in charge of nothing; he will be in torment, according to the Bible passage above.
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So he doesn't punish those who are put in hell? He just stays with them?
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He will have no authority or power to punish (or party). Will he be in the same vicinity as others? I don't know. There are degrees of punishment, so there may be some who qualify to receive the same degree of punishment as Satan. That is for the Judge to decide; and Him alone. That is Who we should be concerned about--the One who holds the keys of life and death, the One who decides who will be thrown into hell. This is the side of God many people are uncomfortable talking about, but it is a very real side, as much as His mercy and compassion, is His justice and judgment.

If not for His justice and judgment of sin, Jesus Christ would not have had to die for the sins of the world, for you and me. "For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit... "
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Almighty God created man-kind with free-will - otherwise we will be robots. God placed before mankind the free will to choose life or death (Deut. 30:19,20) Almighty God did not create "Satan." Satan became envious or jealous of Almighty God and wanted to have some of God's glory. Satan lied to Eve and chose to condescend the commandment given to Adam in Eve.

Why Almighty God did not destroy Satan then and there - is because - Satan presented a challenge to God basically before all of the other angels - He had some believe that God was unloving and did not have the right to rule mankind and that mankind can make decision on their own without the guidance of God (Genesis 3:5)

Yes, Almighty God could have destroyed Satan -right then. However, what do you think the other angels would have thought? So, Almighty God has allowed mankind to rule themselves (Jeremiah 10:23)Soon Almighty God Jehovah will put an end to all of the wickedness that we see and his original purpose will come to be. (Daniel 2:44)

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To answer the second question; If you believe in the Christian-Judeo God, you must believe that he is merciful, which explains why He wouldn't destroy Lucifer (Satan), a being whom God not only gave free will and the highest position in Heaven, above all other angels and beings in Heaven, but whom He LOVED. God still loves the being that was and, to some unbelievable degree, still is. Now of course God does NOT love what Lucifer has done or is doing now, but He does love the being whom He created. As for the reason He created Lucifer, knowing that he would rebel, no one but God knows. Hope this answers enough.

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I think it is a misunderstanding to believe that God knew Satan would rebel. Since the future doesn't exist God can only predict the future then make it happen. God certainly must have understood that if he made any being with a free will that sooner or later someone would question His love and try to replace him. Satan is without excuse because he had everything God could give a created being. Maybe he forgot that he was a created being and desired to be thought of as an equal. Pride brought him down

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To balance good.

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Why does there need to be a balance? Why can't there be all good? Besides, isn't all good, good?
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Ehh I'm not sure you getting the point. Life has bad things, unavoidable bad things. It's not all good. Every object contains atoms which contain positive and negative things, you need both to make life life.
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I understand that bad things can be unavoidable. But what you were saying here (to balance good) sounded like balancing good is a good thing. And if not, then what did you mean "to balance good"?

It's kinda like the quote: "life isn't fair", just cause it isn't fair, doesn't mean it has to be.

Also atoms have nothing to do with good and bad, the positive and negative things in a atom are just electromagnetic forces.

"you need both to make life life."

Ehh, I don't think life needs bad things to happen, just cause it's unavoidable, doesn't mean it can create life.
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So basically what you were saying is that God can't take away all bad things in the world because it is unavoidable, because God himself is not omnipotence. Which contradicts the bible, therefore not everything in the bible is true. So either you are wrong, or the bible is, you choose.
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Should I keep going? :)
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So if "to balance good" isn't the answer, I guess the ONLY answer to that question must mean that God himself is EVIL!
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Life is only a test. He lets is choose between good and bad, he gives everyone the option of eternal life, but many undeserving people think they should have it, but we are all undeserving because we exist on earth where good and bad is the balancing force of choice. God created a tree called the tree of the knowledge of good and EVIL, right there he put evil on the earth from the start. It needs to be there to balance, but through God we can break the grip of evil and have eternal life in him. In heaven yes there is all good, and all good does exist only in heaven. All evil exists in hell. Life/death is what exists on earth and we have the choice. The war is still going on between the two forces and one day one will prevail and the other will be gone forever.
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This doesn't make any sense! I don't even know why you are bringing this up!

If we are undeserving, then why should there be a heaven? "good and bad is the balancing force of choice." sometimes good people do bad choices, and sometimes bad choices aren't even a choice (some people have mental issues, which they did not choose in the first place). And why did God put evil in this world? And why does there need to be a balance of good and evil? And why only heaven gets to be all good and not earth? And if heaven is all good, wouldn't that mean that God takes away our free will (since it takes free will to do bad things)? And why do we need to be tested to have eternal life with him? And what is the purpose of this test anyway if he already knows the outcome? What is the purpose of evil if nothing good comes out of it? And why does there need to be a balance of good and evil in this world but not in heaven?

Sad. You should be ashame of yourself for believing in this stuff. smh.
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Also, if God was going to take away our free will of doing bad things, then why not take away our free will right now?

Should I keep going? :)
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I mean you had no statements, they were all questions. If you are going to make an argument get your facts together and don't throw out humanly unanswerable questions. All these questions you asked though do have correct answers and you are almost on the track of finding God, because once you do, all these questions will be unneeded as long as you have God in your heart. Evil comes from the absence of God.
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I'm just saying that your previous comment brung out so many questions that didn't make any sense to me and needed to be answered. And I doubt there are any answers to these questions because that's just a small sample of how flawed the bible really is. And believing that some divine being "breathed out those words" are extremely unlikely and therefore hard to believe. That is why I became an atheist. And you should too, realize it's inconsistencies before you actually call your the bible "facts".

Evil is NOT the absence of God, because as an atheist, I lack the belief of any God, and I am certainly NOT evil!

Also, your comment just raised another question: Are you saying that without the answers to these questions, there is NO WAY of finding God? Or that these questions is what's keeping me away from being "on the track to finding God"?

And even if there were answers to my questions (which I highly doubt) and have "God in my heart", that still doesn't prove his existence in reality. I may believe in Him and think that He is real, but that doesn't change reality whatsoever.

Also, your previous comment had nothing to do with "to balance good" and why it was important. You just told me alot of bs (no offense).
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So everything on earth belongs to you? You created your body? You have no appreciativeness for life. You are giving no credit to the creator of nature. You are just taking it for granted. You could go all day arguing this topic. It's not just as easy as 123 to understand the concept, and it takes lifetimes to actually understand it to a full extent. The devil is a great deceiver to trick you into to being an inconsiderate person, and to make everything seem so perfect that it is just coincidence.
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Everything on earth does NOT belong to me. I did NOT created my own body. Just cause you don't know the answer to that question, doesn't mean that it must be some kind of divine being that created me. And I have FULL appreciativeness of life. I do not give credit to "the creator of nature" because I don't believe in one so why should I? I am NOT taking it for granted. Trust me, if you don't know what it is like to be an atheist, then DON'T GENERALIZE OR ASSUME!! Also, who saids that everything around me is just a coincidence? Idk what part of Christianity causes people to think like that but whatever the reason is, it should stop!

Also, you didn't answer any of my questions (in the last comment). It be nice if you did.

Also, you must now know why I don't believe in God (you question science as I question God). No wonder why you believe in God and I don't!

So before you make any arguments about your religion against someone, make sure that it is backed up by actual facts! (The bible is not considered a fact).
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God created angels and gave then free will. He didnt cause the angel we now call 'satan' to rebel or turn on him any more than He made humans betray Him and let sin into the world. That angel we call satan made a choice and suffered the consequences. It was cast from heaven along with angels that chose to follow it and it then chose to temp humanity away from their walk with God and has been doing so ever since. And God will destroy satan ine day.

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God created "choice" and granted free will. The devil was originally an Arch Angel (specifically the Angel of Light) who had free will. Just as darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of God and it came into existence when the devil chose to turn away from God.

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The war is still being fought. Yes the power of death was destroyed, but this war is coming to an end very shortly.
As for the rest of your Q, to me, this is my understanding, when I borrow a movie or a book, I do not read what its all about, that to me destroys the excitement of watching or reading. I just know that's the one I want to hire. Sure, sometimes I'm dissappointed, but I'm always dissappointed when I pre-read about it, it gives away the thrill.

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Satan was not created wicked!
All of Gods works are perfect, he is not the author of unrighteous; so he did not create anyone wicked. "You are not a God who takes pleasure
with you the wicked cannot dwell,"
(Psalms 5:4). NIV. In short he made himself the Satan, which means "adversary"

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Satan used to be one of the brightest angels, but God found darkness in his heart, and he cast him into hell.

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All of God's works are perfect according to Deuteronomy 32:4, so the angel who became Satan started off as a perfect spiritual son of God. Satan like all other intelligent creatures had free will and he decided to not stand fast in the truth like mentioned at John 8:44. He wanted to be God and be worshiped like he did and jealousy overtook him and he became an adversary to God. (James 1:14,15)

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God made Satan which retaliated about human freedom, because he was flawed, then God sent him to Hell instead of just getting rid of him. So now Satan supposedly makes bad stuff happen while God allows him. That about sums it up nicely. :)

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satan wasnt created bad. he as an angle of Gods actually the right hand to God but satan got a big head and tried to overthrow God so God cast him out of heaven and that's how he became satan his original name is lucifer which means deceiver. As u can tell in our world today he lives up to the meaning of his name...

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God created Satan as a angel but satan wanted to be the ruler of the world so he rebelled and became a demon named satan and other angels rebelled and became demons to.

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God didn't create Satan. Satan is a human creation to scare little naughty children from sneaking out at night and lying to parents. Also God is another creature that calms down the terrified little children to finally go to sleep! Easy really :))

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The Bible shows that God did not create the Devil. Instead, He created the person who became the Devil. Regarding God, the Bible says: “Perfect is his activity, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness, with whom there is no injustice; righteous and upright is he.” (Deuteronomy 32:3-5) From that statement, we can conclude that Satan the Devil was at one time perfect and righteous, namely, one of God’s angelic sons.

At John 8:44, Jesus said that the Devil “did not stand fast in the truth,” implying that Satan had at one time been truthful and guiltless.

However, like the rest of Jehovah’s intelligent creatures, the angel who became Satan had the freedom to choose between right and wrong. By choosing a course in opposition to God and inciting the first human couple to join him, he made himself Satan, which means “Resister.”—Genesis 3:1-5; Revelation 12:9.

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God create satan and satan was an angel. But then he changed and became bad

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