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Why do people dislike and/or judge people if they say they're athiest, but, don't as quickly if they are christian?

It's not right, people are people and the religion shouldn't matter.

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Because many people assume that if you don't believe in a god, you don't believe in anything. I'm not an atheist myself; I believe in the existence of a god, just not the biblical one. However, just because atheists don't believe in a god doesn't mean they believe in nothing; they believe that the universe runs just fine on its own. They, like most people, also believe in human worth, love, charity, empathy for other beings, and all the other things that decent people believe in. Of course, some of them AREN'T decent people but that can be said of people who claim religion as well.

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Fear, is usually at the heart of the reason for most negative judgement

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Simply stated and ultimately true. Stars.
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Very kind to take the time- thank you
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well... some people believe in their religion very strongly. and a lot are strict about it. that's why they feel that it's not right to not believe in a religion at all.
hope i helped! :)

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Well because (SOME) people are judgmental and have nothing better to do than shake there finger and judge people that have different beliefs or ideals . People are always going to pass judgement weather its because your atheist , the way you dress, act , or because of your appearance . I suggest not caring what people opinions are. There invalid to me unless I tell myself otherwise or they are stating a fact like- Shane your hair is brown .

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Emily.. People are free to be whom they choose. Athiest are good moral people. I have no problem with them. One of my closest friends is a athiest.

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I find it even more discriminatory when someone says "I have a friend that's...".
You shouldn't have to say that.
I think it's better if you don't.
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When I talk to my friend... We do not mention belief at all.
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but.. i didn't say i had a problem with them?...
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Because the Bible says that who doesn't believe in God is a sinner.... or something. Not all of them hate on atheists, but some will rely on their beloved Bible in every situation they get into. They will find a quote from there that tells you exactly what you're doing wrong, whatever it is you're doing.

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In order to maintain believers and in an attempt to keep those believers from asking to many questions, religions must make outsiders appear as being the work of the devil. If you take Christianity as an example, you will find verse after verse that promotes ignorance over knowledge, and an "Us vs Them" mentality.
This, combined with peer pressure or the "mob mentality", encourages believers to view nonbelievers with contempt and mild, to severe, hated and distrust, particularly towards atheists.

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Wow, you've been hurt really bad huh?
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Not at all, my parents were very open minded and I've never dealt with any serious life issues. But I understand that you need to fit things into rational boxes that you can understand, most Christians do.
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No, not talking about your parents. You are so unbelievably angry at Christians. It seems one must have really hurt you in the past. Every comment you make is against Christians. I don't understand where else your hate comes from.
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I'm sorry, I'm really not trying to be confrontational. I just don't understand it. I apologize.
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If I were raised in Iran you would see my contempt aimed at Islam, but since I'm here in the US and I see a religion that, like others, promotes division among humankind, encourages ignorance about history and the natural world, abuses their children by not allowing them to learn the truth about things like evolution, geology, etc. and insists that everyone should live by their own version of right and wrong, then Christianity is it. If you could convince me that Christianity doesn't do those things then I wouldn't have to point out the negative effect your belief has on the world, but you can't because you realize it is true as well. Although I'm sure YOU see these things as trivial and worth the cost for the other imagined values like salvation and heaven, but I don't share those views.
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No, I don't see these things as trivial. But you're generalizing. You're lumping us all into one huge group. I detest many of these huge "Christian" people who beat down others. I allow my children to learn everything. We never forced church on them. They made the choice to go and to be baptized. I am against abortion. But I was before I believed. I've offered to help those who wanted one by raising the baby myself or what ever. I'm not a hypocrite. I back up my belief with actions. Productive actions. Do you? Or do you just complain about Christians doing wrong? I have very nice conversations on here with atheists. I respect their opinions and views and they do mine. You and a couple others hate us!
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Btw, we are not trying to "maintain believers", except for the big money evangelists, why do you honestly think we want people to know Christ?
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While serving in Afghanistan an angry Islamic man confronted me and asked "Why are you here? Why are you making war on my people?" I responded "If you could control your radical extremists, we wouldn't have to do it for you." He had no response and calmed down afterwards.
I don't hate Christians, anymore then I hated that man, what I hate with all religions is what it does to some of those that believe in them, or allows some of those that believe in them to justify doing.
Those things I mentioned above are no where near as bad as flying planes into buildings, or suicide bombing a bus full of women and children, so bullets are not needed. But I will use my words to remind everyone that some things their religions do are wrong and unfair to others, I will do this until Christians like you can convince the Christian extremists to shut up.
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What you're not hearing is they are not of God, Cal! They are doing satans work, making you angry at Christians!! I respect your feelings on the matter. And I also understand it.
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So you complain about cal lumping people into one large group after you yourself assumed cal must have been "hurt" just because he disagrees with your religion. Is generalizing only okay when you Christians do it?
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That was sarcasm on my part.
ALRIGHTY THEN, the civil conversation is over with. Have a good night Cal. Again.,, I APOLOGIZE, something I never heard once in ^^OTHERS^^ insults.
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Yes, because your constant insulting generalizations aren't insulting at all.
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That is the standard cop-out used by every theist to set themselves apart from the other theists that do bad things. What you're not understanding is that from an outsiders point of view you are all Christians, you all use the same book, follow the same basic rituals, praise Jesus, etc. etc.
You like to SAY they are not Christians, but like the Muslims, you don't back it up with actions. I don't see you on here pointing out that young earth creationists are wrong and that it doesn't say that in the bible. I don't see you telling other Christians that discriminating against those that don't share your world view is wrong. Nothing! You, like moderate Muslims, remain silent when others of your religion do wrong, and then you get angry with those of us that point out the wrongdoing and its source.
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I'll give it to you notbob...you are an argument tactician.
You use the immediate rush of condescension,
then you hit them with the "That's not what I meant" when they poke holes
then BAM, you use the "I'm a bigger man, and can step away" ultimate closer.

Too bad you got the bum end of the argument.
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For your INFORMATION, caluvox has been doing this to ME, sticking his catty snide remarks on my post. But I don't expect you to ask before concluding. That's too close to being civilized as well minding your own business. You may continue pissing and moaning. You're good at that.
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I didn't piss or moan.
I'd be willing to bet that you couldn't quote a single instance of me pissing or moaning.
And I believe that I was very civilized with my statement.
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Hypocrisy again- Suzie here doesn't mind her own business, as she has proved from commenting frequently on our answers. Why would she bother if she minded her own business?
For that matter, why is someone who advocates "minding your own business" on an Internet forum?

Let's be realistic here- she is often very nasty and insulting to non-Christians.
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You lie with such ease. You have bashed every Christian on here. Pummeled them with your never ending anger and hate for Christians. You call people names and you're very insulting! YOU are the prime example of a playground bully, and this is your playground. The only time you DON'T sound angry is when your having one of your bashing parties, like this. You are a self-proclaimed "educated" scientist who doesn't answer science questions, you just berate Christians. YOU are a hypocrite! You have no kind words, just hate for Christians. I'm stronger than you'll ever be. I've been thru much, but can still be nice to people who believe differently. I'm a better person than you'll ever be, I'm kind and try to be helpful to people. You are a bitter, hateful person and every Christian knows your full of contempt. And if atheists were to honest about it, I'm sure a couple would say the same. Except your toadies of course. I pity you. I truly feel sorry for you, and everyone in your life.
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I agree Bob, Skeptikitten is very hateful to Christians and others. I just read where he slammed Sincerity, not a Christian, and people on there were calling Skeptikitten a constant hateful troll. So he does this to everyone who thinks differently or believes differently. Oh, and he sure backed off when the others called him out. Amusing. It seems that he needs his hate mongers with him to feel strong. Don't feel sorry, he earns it. Just ignore him. He deserves no recognition and you feed his hate energy by arguing back. You are way better than that!
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Haha, you are absolutely right! Except Skept is a female and so am I haha! I'm literally NOT Bob. My name is Suzie.
I need to stop arguing with her. She loves fights. And I contribute to much. My bad. Thanks tho! I'm seeing many are tired of her.
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Now, you guys are acting like we are some kind of a demon, that feeds off "Hate energy".
You know what we hate? We hate people that can't look at facts.
If you have to argue your side with "You just have to believe/trust/have faith..." we hate you. Because you are intellectually inferior.
Now, when I say that, I don't mean we hate those who are intellectually inferior...we hate those that are, and pretend to be more knowledgeable.
We are full of hate, because you people are the scourge of progress.
You do this to us.

And no, you're not a better person, because someone who says that, is pompous, and no better than the rest.

Notbob, you act as if she can't argue her side...as if she needs me or anyone else to help her. But you...seem to have trouble making your point without a friend, or accusations. You cop-out when you're loosing FAR MORE than she ever has.
And you haven't earned a single ounce of credibility.
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I didn't "back off" anything. I simply don't live on the Internet like so many of you seem to.
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WOAH!
Come on now!
That hurts me a little.

All you have to say is: "I took a break".
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Please!!! People often make bright ice judgements as soon as they know someone is a Christian. It happens all the time!!!!

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what is bright ice?
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It's me not proof reading!lololol
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@Cookie: As I said to loveneverfails7, I never experienced as a Christian the vitriol I have experienced as an atheist. But I have been thinking about that, and I don't think religion is truly at the heart of the matter. If a Christian is getting negative feedback regarding their religious views, that may be more a function of how they say what they say, rather than just what they say. No one likes an arrogant, pompous, judgmental person. Even us Christians, when I was a Christian, didn't care for that kind of Christian. Perhaps some people have experienced that type of Christian one too many times, and just assume all Christians are likely to be that kind of person. The same applies to atheists. Regardless of what one thinks of atheism in general, they are going to have a negative reaction to an arrogant, pompous, judgmental atheist.
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@cookieroma;LOLOLOLOL
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It's cultural. In the U.S. we live in a culture that is primarily geared toward acceptance of Christianity. Christian religious institutions have for so long taught that atheists are in league with Satan and are without morals, that any person who is a product of that culture, whether religious or not, is likely to acquire an unfavorable view of atheists. Consequently, given that the vast majority of the population identifies as Christian, and that a scant few identify as atheist, when a negative view of one or the other is promoted, the odds are that it will be an atheist rather than a Christian on the receiving end.

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Perceptive. I was going to say something like this, but not so cleverly. Star
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@Shiny: Thank you, sir. I did, however, rethink the question, and came up with a bit of a different answer under cookieroma's answer.
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I'm not sure that a word like "parochial" should ever be used to describe an entire country but, from the flip side of the planet ,the US attitude toward religion seems just that. Parochial. It's certainly unique and, although it seems normal to Americans, it is probably not in step with the rest of the developed world -- Catholic countries excepted.

If you were living in Oz nobody would give a tinkers about your religion or whether you were an atheist, a Christian, or a Calathumpian. We're so irreligious that most Australians probably don't even know about the mighty Flying Spaghetti Monster.

When I was a boy during the 1940s religion was still strong in Oz and although some denominations are holding their own and one or two have actually increased their membership, we're a pretty godless lot and religion is rarely discussed and probably seldom thought about. It's been an education to me to join a web site on which it gets so much emphasis.

So if you find your friends and neighbours are judging you for your beliefs, or non-belief, drop your canoe into the Pacific and paddle like mad until you reach our sunny shores.

And on the way over your can practice saying, "G'day mate."

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Excellent answer! Nice to have a fresh perspective :)
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Hi Cal. It's been fun to join in the religious discussions but I'm way out of practice.
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I've spent all my time either here in the states were Christian dogma rules, or in the middle-east were Islamic dogma rules :-/
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I'd rather the first than the second, but only by a touch. Theocracies would be evil places to live.
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@Dodgy: Love your answer. Question: Do Ozians really say "Put another shrimp on the barbie"? I was told "no" by one Ozian.
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Not that I've ever heard, Caltex. It's just an advertising jingle. We're guilty of most of the other things you've heard about us though.
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Actually, I judge everyone the same, the instant I meet them, I start to form either a positive or a negative opinion of them, just like you and every other human being on the planet. It really doesn't matter to me if you are atheist, Christian, Islamic, or a religion that you made up all on your own. Lot's of people are quick to judge Christians the same way some are quick to judge atheists. When it comes to atheists, I just see them as being more ignorant in one respect than most others, just as when I see your average Christian, I see them as being more ignorant in a great many respects than many others. So it sort of balances out. Doesn't really effect my opinion of the person though, just whether I think some of their beliefs are right or wrong. The fact remains that every human being judges in some way, every other human being they meet.

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Try being a Christian, Christians get judged all the time. Even Jesus said, "If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first. John 15.18
People in general are judgemental, doesn't even have to do with religion!

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I have been both, and never have I experienced as a Christian what I have experienced as an atheist. While the judging is done by both sides, I refer to my answer above as an explanation of my experiences.
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Yes, it must be horrible being the vast majority in this country with all the media and governmental power.
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'Tis a good point Mister Skept has presented.
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See what I mean.
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No, loveneverfails7, I don't. What was said in the comments above that validates your comment?
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Skepti is a mister, I assumed a woman.
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I think he/she is.
I know he/she is some sort of scientist...and I THINK I remember something about him/her being a man.
But I could be wrong.
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Skeptikitten is a married woman, and is a scientist and professor of biology at an institution of higher learning.
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Indeed I am. Thanks Cal.
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I'm impressed.
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Women aren't real.
They're just a government conspiracy.
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My wife says that's not true, but then what would you expect from someone trying to hide the truth.
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Weapon, you caught on.
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I'm just a holographic projection my husband uses to cover his multiple personality disorder.
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Skepti, besides our differences in belief, you sound like a very interesting person.
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That's code for weird, right? I get that from my students a lot. That, and "Doc, you're kind of a geek aren't you?"


I'd deny it but they are correct, as the pictures of me in cosplay on my office wall attest.
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Judgementalism is an unavoidable facet of human nature. Reacting to a finding of "they're not like us", there's a reflex to fear or denigrate these "others", a mob mentality. There are countless examples, whether the "others" are atheists, or foreigners or wear funny hats or their pants too low. Many a war was instigated by such lowbrow thinking.

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Well, look at the attacks on us infidels.
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Yep. Hard to ignore.
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Haha!! Oh wow! We are jus' big o' meanies aren't we.
Seriously, I have been friends with some incredibly wonderful atheists. But they didn't ask questions like this.... It's just a tad paranoid and extremely off.

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It IS paranoid, and juvenile to boot. But it's amazing how petty people can be given the necessary prompting.
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True. I'm sure it applies to me as well. I guess the subject just doesn't become an issue with friends. I will discuss it once. And I do it truly because I care. That's all. I don't feel I need to be right or people have to follow me. Just once, if they ask again I'll talk again. I do not believe in slamming people over the head with bibles. It just gives people headaches.
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Heh heh. There you have it, what makes our friends what they are. I'd like to meet the person who has never even subconsciously passed an unkind judgement, so I could ask them what their problem is. :)
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Exactly. I don't chose friends by religion. I chose them by what's inside.
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*choose haha!
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Some believers are upset that the odds are heavily in our favor.

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And I've only seen it here, at the ask community.
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I've dealt with on numerous occasions at many points in my life in the physical world. Lol, Ask is sometimes just an accurate representation.
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Because, people are people.
Our minds frantically look for a way to envision someone, and religious preference is the one that allows us to fill in the most holes.
You can't imagine someone's childhood, simply from their favorite color, but you can with religion.

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Religion should not matter? If it doesn't matter, why even choose? Because it does matter. Some religions have more moral weight than others, some more adherents, some have more liberalism... It's a funny smorgasbord where you choose ONE entree. The popular choice tends to be the "in" religion, and the unpopular ones get viewed with suspicion.

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Off here, religion isn't an issue with people. On here, I see just the opposite. I guess it's in the eye of the beholder.

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