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If Jesus was Mary and Joseph's child, how is he God's son?

wouldn't he be Joseph's son?

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( 171 ) O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

( 172 ) Never would the Messiah disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor would the angels near [to Him]. And whoever disdains His worship and is arrogant - He will gather them to Himself all together.

Quran (4:171-172)

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According to the Bible, Jesus was conceived before Joseph and Mary were intimate.

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I'm not Christian so I don't believe he was God's son from the start. I think this might be one of the contradictions in Christianity that make u doubt ur religion? Ask people with a lot of knowledge in Christianiy, like priests. Or do reserch in the Bible or other books.

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Funny you state a contradiction but don't explain it.
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Like I said I'm not Christian. It's not my job to find the answers to contradictions of other people's faiths.
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Jesus is God in human form therefore the Almighty had to be brought about being the child of someone and God's creation of Joseph and Mary was the pick of the draw

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Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit. Joseph and Mary were betrothed but virgin. This to fulfill the prophecy "a virgin shall bear a son".
When Jesus was baptized, as he came up out of the water the Holy Spirit came down in the form of a dove. And a voice from heaven said this is my beloved son. In whom I am we'll pleased.
God said it, I believe it!

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That's a good question to ask a pissed of Christian

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As a roman catholic, I remember this referred to as the immaculate conception.

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The AC actually refers to MARY not Jesus.
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This is one of the numerous "Abracadabras" of Christianity. This claim shall not stand any trial, and rather has upon its face every mark of fraud and imposition.

At first Jesus was a man -- son of Mary and Joseph. Matthew and Luke even laid out, as utterly contradictory as they are, two detailed genealogies to prove that Jesus was the son of Joseph the Carpenter, through the blood of David the King.

Then, out of the blue, it was claimed that Jesus was the son of god. And, the evidence to substantiate this extraordinary claim is given upon a dream by Joseph about an angel with this breaking news. It occurred in a dream when poor Joseph was asleep. What is the testimony of one who was asleep worth? We should be vague indeed to put faith in a 2000 years old dream of Carpenter Joseph, while we pay no value even to our own dreams!

Celsus tells us that "the dark-eyed Mary fell in love with the Roman warrior Pandira, and the subsequent fruit of this 'love' was Jesus".

The Infallible Pope Boniface VIII said that..."Trinity is false, the child-birth of a Virgin is impossible, and ridiculous...the Virgin was a she-ass, and her son the issue of a she-ass".

You choose!

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I hope you do and or at least realize were your going at the end off...
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Unfortunately, i do not understand any of the Christian impossibilities! My mind is so constructed that it csnnot see any goodness in lies and falsehoods, or in any virtue in believing the impossible without, or against evidence!

Why not ask your god to give me an evidence to convert me, if he so loves me? It is not my fault if i cannot bring myself to be so hypocritical, like most Christians, as to say i believe, when i can't! Is the fact, that i am being honest, will make god angry? Is it a fact that an infinitely just god would punish me simply because i refused to be dishonest?


If he will, then, god can keep his heaven for himself and the dishonest pretenders of faith. I want no heaven for which i must give up my honesty and truth.


And i ask, if god will act so evil, what would the devil act any worse upon the same issues? Of what good is such a god then? Why should we even need a devil if god will act so evil himself? Shouldn't a god be better, more virtuous & honest than the devil at least?
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The Answer Rings
Eternally Ever
So Clearly.
Read:
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Why do you misunderstand what I say? It is because you are unable to hear what I am saying. [You cannot bear to listen to My message; your ears are shut to My teaching.]
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You are of your father, the devil, and it is your will to practice the lusts and gratify the desires [which are characteristic] of your father.
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He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
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When he speaks a falsehood, he speaks what is natural to him, for he is a liar [himself] and the father of lies and of all that is false. (John 8:43, 44 AMP)
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If satan is the "father of lies" and your god was the creator father of satan; doesn't it logically follow that your god is the "grandfather of lies"?

And, if god made me in his image, and if I still cannot listen to his supposed message and teachings; isn't it precisely god's failure to make me competent? Can you morally hold your child responsible for not being a professor of Physics in MIT, while it was you who failed to afford the tuition fee even of that child's primary education and instead needed his labor to support your income?

Isn't exactly what your god has been doing?
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While It Is Most Certainly True
That The God Of Abraham
Is The Creator of Every-
thing: However, He
Has No Kinship
With The Evil
Done With
satan.
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The Lord is not too weak to save or his ear too deaf to hear. But your wrongs have separated you
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from your God, and your sins have made him hide his face so that he doesn?t hear you.
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Your hands are stained with blood,and your fingers are stained with sin.You speak lies,and you mutter wicked things. (Isaiah 59:1-3 GWT)
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You seem pretty apt in taking the tactic of your god, who plays Switch-A-Roo, of inventing a satan, and then blaming that satan for his (god's) own failures & blunders!! Pity!

Mind explaining me, how the once Angel Lucifer, turned to Satan in god's heaven? If he was an angel he must have been residing in heaven from eternity, and in heaven he must only had as companions, before he turned evil, the god, the trinity and the other angels. Since he was the first corrupter, then there surely wasn't any other devil/SNAKE to tempt that Angel to become a Satan, was there? How and why did Lucifer FALL then? What evil did your god commit in heaven against angels before he supposedly created the world? Why was your god so unpopular in heaven, how bad he governed, that even a third of the angels were compelled to rebel against him?

Now let us see, if your claim that "He (god) Has No Kinship With The Evil Done With Satan" really holds any water:

You admitted that satan was created and unleashed by God himself. God must have known, being omniscient, before creating Lucifer that this angel would eventually rebel and become Satan, and spend his existence reeking havoc on man kind. Leading mankind into "sin" and subsequently to hell. Why did your god still create this equally powerful satan? To see how much he can torture us before sending to ETERNAL GRILLING! Ah! He must be a peculiar god then!

If this god was not an accessory to evil, then why did he so miserably forget to kill satan and his demons in his flood in which he'd killed all human by drowning? Wouldn't that have solved the problem of evil altogether?

Suppose I were to build an evil robot, that I knew would go around torturing and murdering people. Whose fault would it be if I let it loose? Mine or the robot?s? Of course it would be mine, for I created it with that purpose and unleashed it for that purpose.

I ask you, whose crime is the deviltry in the world? Is it the PUPPET Satan's, or your god's - who deliberately created Satan?s evil?
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Pious To 'Aptly' Sum Up The
Numerous Comments You
M a d e Above, God's In-
tent Was For Lucifer
To Live Eternally In
Heaven. Luci f e r
Tried To T a k e
Over Like He
Tried Adam
/ Eve. Bad
Cho i c e.
Kicked
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NOW THE serpent was more subtle and crafty than any living creature of the field which the Lord God had made.
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And he [Satan] said to the woman, Can it really be that God has said, You shall not eat from every tree of the garden?
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And the Lord God said to the woman, What is this you have done? And the woman said,
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The serpent beguiled (cheated, outwitted, and deceived) me, and I ate.
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And the Lord God said to the serpent, Because you have done this, you are cursed above all [domestic] animals and above every [wild] living thing of the field;
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upon your belly you shall go, and you shall eat dust [and what it contains] all the days of your life. (Genesis 3:1, 13, 14 AMP)
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You, as usual, failed to answer even one of my questions put above. Instead you gave the same free-will and forgeries, taught in the churches.


But, why am i not surprised!!!
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Even according to your quote, every promise of Satan was fulfilled to each of his words: Adam and Eve didn't INSTANTLY DIE, and they DID BECOME as gods by knowing good and evil!!

Strangely, none of your gods promise seem ever to be fulfilled!!
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Since It Has Been My Experience
That luciferian Tactics of satan
Resort To Machine Gunning
Multiple Questions Into
One, I Don't Water
Down The Truth
Of Almighty
God. The
Answer
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Same
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Forever, O Lord, Your word is settled in heaven [stands firm as the heavens].
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Your faithfulness is from generation to generation; You have established the earth, and it stands fast.
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All [the whole universe] are Your servants; therefore they continue this day according to Your ordinances. (Psalm 119:89-91 AMP)
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Well, credulity is not a crime as yet! One can be as credulous as one will! Who am I to stop you?
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According to biblical accounts, Mary was a young women who experienced the visitation of an heavenly angel. This angel announced Mary would conceive a holy child and it was written that she did became pregnant, without having slept with a man.

Joseph married her, even though he knew she was pregnant. He married her because he believed the angel had appeared to her and she was carrying a divine child. In those days, Mary would have been stoned to death for having a child out of wedlock. It was very good thing Joseph married her, because he saved the lives of both the mother and the child.

There was so much more, as to why Jesus was called the son of god. It had to do with his divine conception, his foretold birth and his miraculous life and teachings. You can read more about it on-line, in bible study courses. God bless! : D

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Joseph was the earthly father of Jesus. A stepfather to Him.
There's 3 parts to God. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit together make God, and Jesus always was with God and came in human form.

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Joseph wasn't Jesus's father. "The Holy Spirit will come upon thee, and the Holy Thing that will be born to thee will be called the Son Of God"

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Jesus was born in a miracle because God made Mary pregnant though the Immaculate Conception Joseph was spoken to by God that this was to be. And of coarse Joseph agreed to listen to God. Joseph you can say was the father in human sense but God made Mary pregnant and scripture was forfiled

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God created the egg in Marys uterus without sexual intercourse. Mary carried him and gave birth to him. Joseph was the human man God chose to be Jesus earthly father, to raise him and instruct him as an earthly father would. Sort of like Jesus adopted father. Tho it is possible that when God created Jesus egg in Mary he included Josephs DNA as well. For all intents and purposes in the eyes of the world he was Josephs eldest son.

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Jesus was Mary's son. Most scholar strongly doubt if he was Joseph's son though. Some have suggested he was the biological son of Panthera, the Roman Legionnaire, but of course that is highly speculative. We have to accept we do not know who was Jesus' biological father. As for God, God cannot and does not have children. It's sacrilege to suggest that God procreates. It was common to bribe such nonsense in Greek or Roman mythology. While Zeus apparently was in the habit of sleeping with and impregnating women, God - who has no physical shape or form - doesn't.

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pantera? rubbish not worthy of you. I have utmost respect but this Christian bashing is just icky.
the title sons of God is used many times in Old & New Testament.
Old Testament usage of the term Son of God:
The term "son of God" is used in two main ways in the Old Testament. Neither way denotes any physical relation to God. Rather, the references deal with those who are under divine obedience to the call of God. It is used of Israel as a nation through the Exodus. Hosea 11:1 says, "When Israel was a youth I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My son." It is also used in reference to angels. Job 1:6 says, "Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them." Also, in Job 38:7 it says, "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" These are in reference to angels who are created beings and in no way implies literal dependency from God.

New Testament usage of the term Son of God:
The Term "Son of God" occurs 47 times in the King James New Testament. In reference to Jesus, it is a title as the heavenly, eternal Son who is equal to God the Father (John 5:18-24). It is Jesus who fully reveals the Father (Matt. 11:27). He is the exact representation of the Father (Heb. 1:1-3), He possesses all authority in heaven and earth (Matt. 28:18), and Jesus had glory with the Father before the world was made (John 17:5).
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If you read carefully, u said some have suggested Panthera, and that it was highly speculative. I therefore reject your criticism. Indeed the Tanach uses the terms son (or sons) of God. First, since sons of God appears in the plural, it outright goes against the Christian creed of Jesus supposedly being God's ONLY son. Second, when the Tanach uses this phrase, it never means what Christians think it does. Jesus was more God's son that you or I.
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Joseph was Jesus's EARTHLY father!
The Angel came to Joseph and told him to take Mary as his wife, that the child within her qas of the Holy Spirit!
Read the books of Matthew and Like!
( you must be new to the faith)

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fairy tales ;)
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NiallandthePotatoes3, Really There's
No 'Abracadabra' Concerning The
DNA /Fatherhood of The Savior
Of The World, Jesus Christ.
All Who Believe/Receive
Him, also Have Earthly
Daddy + Heavenly
Father. Earthly
Father Was
Joseph.
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and went to his hometown. He taught in their synagogue, and the people were so amazed that they asked,
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'Where does he get all this wisdom and the power to work these miracles? Isn't he the son of the carpenter? Isn't Mary his mother,
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and aren't James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas his brothers? Don't his sisters still live here in our town?
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How can he do all this? (Matthew 13:54-56 CEVDCUS06)

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The conception of Jesus was a miracle performed by God as a sign that Jesus was the true messiah.

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Mary was still a virgin after she got pregnant
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He was the son of Mary, of course! He never claimed to be the Son of God. He actually claimed to be "the son of man" and repeated it rather a lot. Somebody else proclaimed him to be the son of God.

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In those days Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan.
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And when He came up out of the water, at once he [John] saw the heavens torn open and the [Holy] Spirit like a dove coming down [to enter] into Him.
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And there came a voice out from within heaven, You are My Beloved Son; in You I am well pleased. (Mark 1:9-11 AMP)
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Hi Psalmbody, we both know that the term "son of God" in the Bible means nothing more than a servant. God has sons by the tones in the Bible.


"I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You." Psalm 2:7
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Jesus is not God's Son in the sense of a human father and a son. God did not get married and have a son. God did not mate with Mary and, together with her, produce a son. Jesus is God's Son in the sense that He is God made manifest in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, "The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.'" Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-God.html#ixzz2UMOTQVD1

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There is only one God and it doesn't matter what you call him! He doesn't care!

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there is just one GOD and surely Jesus is not God's son.God is unique. Jesus was Mary's son and his birth was a miracle because Mary was virgin.Jesus was only a good messenger and a good human.Joseph was not Mary's husband .

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