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.i have a mental friend and i was wondering do you think it would be cool, just to write a journal over mental disorders?

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John_8715

Yes it would be very cool, I would use the term mental disability however when describing your friend.

We often forget the people less fortunate than the rest of us, people who suffer from a variety of disorders and handicaps that most of us never have to deal with in our daily lives.

Have any of you ever taken the time to volunteer to help a disabled person, to go and visit them during the holidays when no one else would, to go on an outing with them and see the joy that they have for the simplest amount of human interaction.

I have, and it will touch your heart in ways that you never knew, and to see the happiness that you can bring to these beautiful people will change your life forever...

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Great answer. But I think they would prefer 'condition'.
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Another amazing answer..
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Marcus, have you done what I have done, if not I really don't think you or anybody else are in a position to counsel me on political correctness, the fact is that a developmentally disabled person is to often left in institutions with only the basic care.

To be fair there are a lot of placement centers and group homes that provide outstanding care for these individials, but familys often forget about them, some think they are a dark secret.

The holidays are fast approuching Marcus, why don't you give a half a day and volunteer at one of these places and bring a joy to the hearts of these people, it will have a positive effect on you, as I've said, I've done it.

Google "Willowbrook Mental Institution", and see for yourself what can happen, this was before you were born
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Don't tell me what to do. And I don't think I need anyone counseling me on that either because if you haven't heard yet, I do have a >condition<. Or as many people call it, a disability or a disease.
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Calm down. Marcus is just stating his opinion.
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John is not the person to go after on this topic. He has cared enough to put his time in, his heart and to spread awareness. I am a nurse, nobody can accuse me of being insensitive if I say disability or handicap. These are not dirty words. We have disability insurance and handicapped parking, these are not slurs and being politically correct won't change the challenges some people face in life. Enough with political correctness, perhaps time is better spent volunteering rather than chastising!
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Yes Marcus calm down, and I know about your condition, and I was aware that I might trigger it by my response, but however I still stand by what I said, and the possibilities that you could create if you were to do what I suggested, in fact all of you should try it, most of you need to be humbled anyway, and this is a positive way to do it...
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At least someone remembers it. Everyone else just hears about it and goes off and contredicts my opinions in the rudest way possible as if they've never been told!
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Marcus, I consider you to be a friend but you must realize that people have other opinions and they are just as entitled to them as you are. We ALL have issues and shortcomings, none is more important than another's.
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No, of course I know what you are dealing with, Synesthesia, I've researched it to have a better understanding of you, would you rather I not say something, rather than you get upset, I wiil not shelter you Marcus from the world only to protect you, or would you want me to do that, I hope not...
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I think you're doing better than most people. Just know that scientists don't yet recognize my "side-effect" as a symptom because I think 99.9% of synesthetes don't have it this strong. Lest peradventure, there aren't many synesthetes in the world so if only 0.1% of them have this, that probably means me and one other person are this way.
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Search "www.bu.edu synesthesia" (no slashes).
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That has nothing to do with my symptom but it has good information on Synesthesia.
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Bellydncr, I realize others have opinions and that's where I get stuck. I feel like it's unfair for me that people try to correct me when I have this symptom but I also feel that it's unfair that they can't speak their opinions to me.
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I have read all of the avaliable information on this subject, and I understand...
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Okay. Thanks for being understanding and sorry for blowing up on you before.
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John_8715
Belly, thank you for your positve input and support.

Now I think you will understand that I am going for a drive and smoke a cuban that my buddy gave me, a Cohiba to be exact )
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Yes, i have been to lots of mental places and hospitals. My last school choir went to an elderly mental hospital and sang.
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Good for you fdee, I'm sure it felt good )
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Marcus, no worries :~)
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lindentalks1
John-I think your answer was perfect. Please - don't apologize or change anything.

I don't know if "MadMarcus" knows everything there is to know about the use of mental nomenclature, but please remember that a fifteen year old with his "condition" does not really represent most of those with mental infirmities.
I think it would be most helpful to remember that we all have "conditions" of some type--and few of us would want to share it at every opportunity, looking for sympathy and special attention. As angry as It makes him that no one recognizes how real his is, synesthesia does not require him to be institutionalized, nor is he unable to function in school or daily life.
John-- your idea of volunteering, to visit those in mental hospitals, would go a long way in illustrating that some "conditions" are not as serious as others are. My advice is not to be someone who pulls their "condition" out of their pocket and continuously shows it to everyone, asking for sympathy and understanding. Instead, why not help others with more serious impairments, and be thankful that your problems are not as bad?
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John_8715
I do agree, but I am always sensitive to Marcus because of his age, and I know at times he sounds very adult like, but inside he is just 15, going on 16 soon, and I know what sets him off, and granted he needs to work on this, as he gets older if this is not brought under control he could have some critical social issues to deal with.

And I think it's a good idea to spend time with those less fortunate, just to see, and appreciate thankful we are to not have a disability to that level.

I have plans to give my time this holiday season to spend time with someone who would otherwise be alone with meals on wheels.

I do not like this time of year, and I try to get to someplace that nobody else would be at, and spend time with those that I can relate to on level that doesn't require giving them a sweater or a gameboy...
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"Linden," we all may have conditions of our own. But do you experience high stress and anger when someone says "I don't know why you like this song?" Do you experience the fact of hearing sight? I don't think so.

I'm not ballicosing my condition on people for sympathy - you do not know how I feel and you're not making things better. Why don't you go judge someone who doesn't know how to defend their point of view? I think that would stimulate your sick mind.
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Imagine a world in which whenever someone says the slightest thing that doesn't agree with you, you get emotional and sick to your stomach! You two are lucky I only talk about it as much as I do!

And "John," who is a totally different person from Linden, you won't defend me on this?! That shows how much you understand about me! Just because scientists don't tell people about the other half of my condition, yes "Linden", >>>CONDITION<<< (verified yet?!), you don't trust it!

If you "two", not one, but two, totally the truth, want, I could leave Ask.com as I came II that close to before!

John, I hope you some day have a disability that no one understands! Then I'll allow you to tell me I'm "looking for sympathy" because at least you'll have a little bit of a source! Never judge a man until you've walked in his shoes, you moron!
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Marcus, this set you off, you have to learn to control this, if your frustration level rises to the point that you feel that you are going to explode, then going for a walk would burn off some of that negitive enegy, and you should not go into attack mode every time you think you are being criticized.

If you do not deal with this now, and practice a resolution, you will find it very hard as you get older, it will effect everything in your life, your job, your friends, your girlfriends, interaction will become very difficult...
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AS MANY HYPOCRITES HAVE SAID AN UNCOUNTABLE AMOUNT OF TIMES BEFORE, Ask.com is a website of opinion! Sadly, sadly, sadly, opinion is scattered ALL OVER the site! All over the site! There's no place here it isn't! In college, there's a copious amount of OPINION! In a family, you use OPINION to work things out! As it is forlornly, depressingly, soul masticatingly so, I CAN'T handle opinion! Maybe MAYBE I belong on an island somewhere where I can have coconuts with googley eyes who say "I agree, Marcus!" to EVERYTHING I say! And maybe they can replace lifeless hypocrites like you two! I think I might do that.
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Marcus, I'm sorry that you hope some day I have a disability.
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The reason I said that John, is because you and Linden are the same people and you said all of those things about me!
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What do you mean the same people, are you inferring that I have two accounts and I am messing with you, and as far as saying anything about you nobody is trying to do you harm, and to call me a moron, well that is not right, so much so that I will participate in this no longer.
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You told me before that you and Linden are the same person! You're crazy! Leave!
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If I may chime in.. (I haven't read the entire post)... I have a child who is labeled, "Severely Autistic". As a mother of a special need's child, I do not get offended if someone calls her "mentally disabled" or if someone says she has a "mental condition". I honestly could care less what people choose to say about her. I DO care how people treat my daughter. Label her what you want, just treat her with the same dignity and respect you would anyone else. In the end, that's all that matters...
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Hi, Kivetome. I haven't seen you in forever.
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Hi madmarcus, I'm still around! Are you still keeping up with your music?
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Yep! Didn't you say you play music too? Are you keeping that up?
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Yes. I teach piano and voice. ;)
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, coool!!!! Lol. You're awesome!
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Marcus as a friend and mother you owe the people here who have shown concern for you an apology, especially John. Condition, disability or handicap is NO reason to be disrespectful of people who have cared enough to understand you. Enough now! There are children right this very moment who are very ill and will not live to see Christmas and they are still kind and loving. You will learn how to control your outbursts or at some point society will do it for you. Think about it my friend. Good night.
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I apologized to John somewhere else and he told me not to talk to him.
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lindentalks1

Marcus, I am NOT John. You may not know who I am, but I know who you are, kiddo--
Your out of control, Marcus. I suggest that you begin to accept that society does not - and will not -- accept those who rant and rage when disagreed with.
You are not a basket case. You are not disabled. You are a kid who reacts to someone disagreeing with you, by throwing a hissy fit whenever you feel insulted, on a web site. And still, people care about you, and take their time to try to help you.
Wake the heck up kid---no one likes being disagreed with. It's not just you.

Marcus, my point all along has been just this- - -
You need to remember there are people posting here with disabilities far worse than yours, that don't talk about it half as much as you do. You are an accomplished pianist, and a smart kid, right?
You should give thanks all year round that you aren't sick with something horrible, like cancer, as Candicane was.
There are far worse things in life than having self diagnosed synesthesia, Marcus.

One more thing-don't you EVER call John, or anyone else here, a moron EVER again. I mean it. I may have gotten you mad at me here---but I have never stooped so low as to call you, or anyone else, a nasty name like that.
None of us have ever been anything but super nice to you, Marcus. Even me, before these posts. You just don't know who I am.
So try to control these outbursts, and learn to react more maturely when someone disagrees with you here. Learning self control is part of growing up.


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To be specific Marcus I said, I will not participate in this any longer, and then I said, please avoid contact with me.

Ladies, thank you, not only for your defence of me, but for bring further attention to those in greater need, and the struggle they go through every day, just to see the next day.

I have stood in St. Jude's Childrens Hospital in Memphis, and the feeling that you get for those kids, those innocent helpless kids is something I actually can descibe, but I need 20,000 characters...

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Linden, you have no clue who I am! The reason I'm so 'out of control' here is because you're repeatedly denying the face that I have this condition! You have no clue what it's like and I don't need you standing over me and being what you call "nice"! If you want to prove that I don't have this symptom, look at me now, after you've repeatedly denied that I have it! Do you ever get like this from something so small? No! You aren't giving me good advice at all!
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John_8715
Marcus, you just don't get it do you, you are disposing one by one those that would help and support you, you can't read the written word, you are to consumed with me,me,me,me,me,me,me.

This is my last reponse to you, you can delete me as a follower if you want, however I would never do, or say the things to you, that you would do to me, maybe in the future, if I'm still on this site, and I won't be forever, we can talk again, but I would have to see an signifigant improvement in you, and I think you should seek therapy, there may be more going on than what you think might be, and keep in mind something else Marcus, I am old enough to be your grandfather, that's right, old enough to be your fathers father, that's if your father is no older than 40.

Best of luck to you son, and keep me posted with periodic updates on your condition, and most importantly, your improvement...
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You guys "just don't get it!" You're making me have a breakdown and now you're judging my personality BY MY BREAKDOWN! I have a disease, okay? I considered it to be a condition before but you two made me realize it's a DISEASE.
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LlNDEN, READ MY COMMENT IN JOHN'S LAST ANSWER!
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lindentalks1
Stop yelling Marcus
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No, writing books is not cool. i would know, im a cool kat

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Only kook cats write books.
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I cook!
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Yes that would be so cool. My mom works with people who have both mental and physical disorders. Just mental disorders though would be cool. I would like to read it. I think you should pursue this idea if you really want to make a statement to people that there is more behind mental disorders.

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that is exactly what i am trying to go for!
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Yes, that would be very cool. Comment on my answer and talk to me! I have a very interesting mental condition that I won't shut up about and you can help me get the words out so I don't feel like I need to tell everyone. Lol.

But please don't classify people as having mental "disorders." It hurts them. Call it a "condition."

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What type of condition do you have?
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Synesthesia. Have you heard of it?

You know the five senses? Conventionally, the five senses are identified by your brain and then categorized and sent off to different parts of your brain. Well my brain doesn't know how to distinctify sight from sound, therefor it sends sight and sound into the same category. Put into a simpler term, my sight and sound senses cross paths. Yes, this means I hear sight.

It sounds like total bogus but look up "Hearing-Motion Synesthesia".
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That is VERY interesting! How long have you been diagnosed with it?
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Well I'm not diagnosed but I know I have it. Same thing with Bellydncr. She says she sees colors when she listens to music. That means the color sensing part of her brain is attached to the music perceptual part. It's very uncommon that you'll see two synesthetes at once because it's a very rare condition so consider yourself very lucky! :P
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hmm. that is veryyy interesting. so like if you hear birds but you cant see them, them you " see" them. haha this is hard to explain. like you see them but other people dont? or is it just in your mind and not actually " see" them?
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Well I don't see sound, but I hear seeing. You know what I mean? However, there are people who see hearing. There's pretty much any type of Synesthesia you can think of. There's probably color to shape Synesthesia where people see shapes out of colors.
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Look up "www.bu.edu synesthesia".
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Or another good one (if you feel like it) is "medicalsite.com synesthesia". I hope I'm not overwhelming you!
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of course your not! Thank you for the info!
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No problem!
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lindentalks1
Yes, Mr Marcus has diagnosed his own condition. And as he says over and over-he will not shut up about it.
He is a very honest person.
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Yes, Linden, you cute little judgemental fifteen year old emotional leach, I have diagnosed myself. I figured maybe if I hear loud "whooshes" or "whirs" when I see any movement, I'd be a little different from anyone else. But if you insist, you're a psychopath as well! And so is everyone else! Thanks for clarifying!
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there is a such thing as his condition. I have done tons of research on it. but marcus you do need to cool down a tad.
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Fdee, you don't understand what I'm going through.
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so is this what youexperience? click the link and c wat i mean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stwzvpnnlqA&NR=1
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Nerdluver, I'll watch it soon.
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@Nerdluver: I have the same experience, but I don't think I hear the same noise.
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Now I am a fifteen year old leach?
Time for us to talk to the mods about your behavior.
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I thought we made up. If you report me for that, I'll report you for harrassment.
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instead of using mental use special

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I dont understand why everyone is saying it would be cool just off top... Have you asked your friend and their family if it would be okay since im sure you plan to write based of your experiences with that person... I find it is offensive to use your friend as some live specimen to journal about. I mean do you even have a reason you're doing so! And im not some random person speaking from no stand point, Im a nurse and I had a younger brother whom has recently passed within the past year God rest his soul... So I have a lot of experience in dealing with this subject and the first thing you need to remember is that they are still human just like you and I, so respect that! Whether they can follow your question or not asking for permission... You should still ask the friend themselves and if they are not competent to make their own decision you need to ask the family. If they give you permission than be respectful at all times in doing so... Dont treat them like some freak experiment because they didnt ask for their disorder and you should realize how blessed you are for being born without a disorder and what you should learn is how blessed you are and it should shed light on the things in life people take for granted everyday that most people dont even realize!

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Yea I thought it would be rude too. If they don't ask that is.
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Very well said, and I am sorry for your loss...
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The kid didn't say he was going to use his friend as a specimen. He just said he's going to write a book. So sorry if I can't read in between those lines that are divided by nothing.

And I'm sorry about your brother.
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I'm not some random person either. I'm very often thought of as an object of interest.
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okay, thats a good point. and yes i do plan on asking the family and his teacher if it is okay. and i do know that it is very rude to act like they arnt one of us. i totally understand. and they are one of us. just like anyone of us. and also im a girl. haha but im sooo sorry about your loss. and when i ment "cool" i ment as in like interesting. and im very aware of disabled people. In fact i would kinda like to work at a mental hospital when the time comes. thats why i would like to do this. im very interested in how they see the world through their eyes. but thank you for opening up my brain to new questions i didnt think of. Thank you again and sorry about your loss.
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Also like Marcus said, i am not totally using him for the whole thing. I am doing tons of research, so that way i dont feel like i am using him as an experiment cause that is not what i intend to do. I am just going to watch how he sees the world through his prospective.
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Marcus is an object of interest.
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Linden, I figure everyone is an object to you.
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Maybe you should speak to a doctor about Sociopathy, you lifeless freak.
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John_8715
MARCUS, Stop It NOW......
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You're calling me a suck over the fact of a miserable symptom of a condition and you tell me to stop?
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*suck up
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okay no need to get all rowdy. Were all good.
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I'm not!!!
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Shedding light on any disorder helps others understand. I think it's a great idea.

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Thank you )
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I agree with Bellydancr, write away! I wish more people understood, and could shed more light on autism awareness!

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I totally agree with you.
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